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2022/05/23 06:41:22 (permalink)
Hi all
 
I have an old 970 FTW, i want to use this card, its dustfree etc, bought it myself new many years ago
But i have build a pc for the wife for surfing the web etc, can i still use this card or not? There seems to be a lot of this cards that catches fire...
 
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 03:43:30 (permalink)
    Nobody??
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 04:30:42 (permalink)
    None of us have a crystal ball.
    Take the risk, or don't.
    I would use it if I needed it, but I wouldn't leave my computer running while I was out running errands.
    I agree that the card has a troubling trend.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2022/05/26 04:35:50
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 04:54:38 (permalink)
    gpu availability is up, prices are dropping, get the wife something a little better and not so combustible.
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 05:08:10 (permalink)
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    gpu availability is up, prices are dropping, get the wife something a little better and not so combustible.


    Keep the card as an emergency backup and get yourself a new card as recommended. 

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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 05:42:44 (permalink)
    If you have no other cards for a backup then ya, it may be good to keep it for a backup. If you do that, then you can upgrade your gpu and give the wife the card your using now, unless you already have a 2xxx/3xxx nvidia card or a 6xxx amd card. You def dont need alot of gpu to surf the web, the 970 would be overkill for that. A better cpu would help her in that regard more than the gpu probably, and one with a gpu onboard would be plenty, probably, from either camp.

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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 07:03:03 (permalink)
    I can't help but laugh at this thread, if you are concerned about a GPU catching fire then you should not have a PC let alone electricity in your home. Just plug the card in and use it.


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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 07:54:40 (permalink)
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    I can't help but laugh at this thread, if you are concerned about a GPU catching fire then you should not have a PC let alone electricity in your home. Just plug the card in and use it.

    Well, they are known to catch fire. Are you suggesting that all components are as likely to catch fire? No.
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 09:12:26 (permalink)
    If you continue internal cleaning, there should be no problem.
    I think a 970 is fine for games around 2015. In fact, it may be an over-spec VGA for games around that time.

    Modern cards have a boost profile that automatically raises Clk when the target game starts up (ex. Doom startup 900mHz -> 1000mHz).
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 10:07:06 (permalink)
    Cleaning it won't keep the VRM from randomly shorting out and the traces going up in smoke.
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 10:40:24 (permalink)
    They have been known to catch on fire due to component failure and there's nothing that can be done to prevent it..Yours may or may not catch on fire..Roll the dice or get another card..Best to get another card.

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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 10:50:08 (permalink)
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 11:01:00 (permalink)
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    They have been known to catch on fire due to component failure and there's nothing that can be done to prevent it..Yours may or may not catch on fire..Roll the dice or get another card..Best to get another card.

    If they were truly known to catch fire then there would be a recall of the products, in fact if you google I can't find one link about them on fire, but I do see a a few folks claiming they do. One post on reddit has a video that seems rather staged, even if its not staged there is no fire, every photo shows no fire, just a failed mosfet or SMD cap. A mosfet or cap failing =/= fire.
    This is what a failed fet looks like.

     
    This is a PC that was on fire.

     
    And TBH VRM/fets failing is nothing new, dying fets have been a thing since the PCI tnt/voodoo3 cards. Before them we had exploding tantalum caps. Almost all high end cards have a few out of the 10 of 100s of thousands sold die from a failed fet or SMD part. Most times when those parts fail there will be a smidge of white smoke or a flash, nether of witch are a fire. Whatever happened to calling it ghost smoke? Are folks these days so wimpy that a little stinky smoke and flash or something has to be call a fire?
    If this all scares one don't use electronics other wise use them and maybe you will be one out of a few hundred thousand that has a component fail with the ghost smoke or a flash. 
    post edited by austin86 - 2022/05/26 11:14:25


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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/26 12:08:18 (permalink)
    You tend to hear more about the 900 series catching fire because a lot more of them were sold than the previous couple generations. The 970 especially was at such a great price vs. performance point that everyone and their grandparents picked one up, so naturally more people having something = more complaints online. At least in the last 10 or so years that I've been with EVGA, there's not one card with a higher likelihood of a component blowing out and "catching fire" than any other. 
     
    That second pic that austin86 posted looks like a PC that went through a house fire, I've not seen a single PC go up like that from a component failure. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen anything do damage beyond the part itself, and that's usually from a motherboard component leaving soot on an add-in card or somesuch. Generally they flash and go out in seconds, so unless you're storing flammable material in your case, it's not going to full-on catch fire. 
     
    So in short, don't worry about it, your odds of it catching fire are on par with winning the lottery. Or anti-lottery as it were.

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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/27 07:49:52 (permalink)
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    You tend to hear more about the 900 series catching fire because a lot more of them were sold than the previous couple generations. The 970 especially was at such a great price vs. performance point that everyone and their grandparents picked one up, so naturally more people having something = more complaints online. At least in the last 10 or so years that I've been with EVGA, there's not one card with a higher likelihood of a component blowing out and "catching fire" than any other. 
     
    That second pic that austin86 posted looks like a PC that went through a house fire, I've not seen a single PC go up like that from a component failure. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen anything do damage beyond the part itself, and that's usually from a motherboard component leaving soot on an add-in card or somesuch. Generally they flash and go out in seconds, so unless you're storing flammable material in your case, it's not going to full-on catch fire. 
     
    So in short, don't worry about it, your odds of it catching fire are on par with winning the lottery. Or anti-lottery as it were.


    You hit the nail right on the head there. Just about any high end hardware can fail violently, the more samples the more likely you are to see one fail in such a way. I would not worry about 2-5 folks online stating their card failed in such a way as there are far far, far more folks with 970s that haven't had a problem. Heck I had 6 or so 970s personally and 4 or 5 980ti's and not one had a problem other then the 970's 3.5gb thing lol.
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/27 07:52:45 (permalink)
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    I would not worry about 2-5 folks online stating their card failed in such a way as there are far far, far more folks with 970s that haven't had a problem.

    2-5 folks? There was one failing every week on this forum for a while. Mostly 980Ti cards, but same enough for me to draw the same conclusions. It was right at the 2-3 year mark that they started failing all in the same way. The only reason it has trended back down, in my opinion, is that most have been retired. Failures are on a bathtub curve. Crib deaths at the beginning, and age-related failures at the end. 2-3 years is way past a crib death and indicates that age is the cause. And since a bunch started failing in the same way at the same time, I conclude that their expected life has been reached. I had confidence in their past reliability, but I have no confidence in their current reliability.
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/30 01:08:02 (permalink)
    I saw there was a new revision, it had a back plate and underneath the cooler there was also a plate covering those fiery bits lol
    So evga must know something...
    But thanks guys for the answers.
    Dont think im gonna use that card, retired my 1080Ti, that one is going into that pc, have myself now a rtx3080 Ti
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    BTW why is there no stock at all at the EU shop?
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    Re: GTX 970 FTW fire? 2022/05/30 05:05:20 (permalink)
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    I saw there was a new revision, it had a back plate and underneath the cooler there was also a plate covering those fiery bits lol
    So evga must know something...
    But thanks guys for the answers.
    Dont think im gonna use that card, retired my 1080Ti, that one is going into that pc, have myself now a rtx3080 Ti
    Greetings
     
     
    BTW why is there no stock at all at the EU shop?


     
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