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2013/08/07 11:21:37 (permalink)
I installed a brand new GTX 670 in my rig about a month ago and for the first three weeks it was performing splendidly. A week ago I experienced the first crash during a three hour session of Shogun 2 and from then on out I've experienced crashing and brief input signal loss from my DVI input on my monitor. When I say brief, I mean about 2 seconds. 

Now, I've only been playing Skyrim and Shogun 2 in the past week but I'm experiencing the same problem with slightly different symptoms in each game. I have never experienced this problem outside of gaming.

Shogun 2 symptoms:
-I am completely unable to play in DirectX11 mode. The monitor loses signal within a minute of loading a game and boots me to the desktop. I still see the Shogun icon in the taskbar but I am unable to get back into the game forcing me to use task manager to end the program.
-I am able to play in DirectX9 mode, but the monitor still loses it's input signal every 5 minutes or so. When the monitor regains it's input signal, instead of kicking me to the desktop like it does in DirectX11 it displays a loading screen as if I've changed some of my graphical settings around. Once it's done loading I am able to continue playing. However, I did experience hard crash under directx9 last night after the monitor lost signal. The sound looped for about a minute before it gave me a BSOD.

Skyrim symptoms:
-I can play for anywhere from 5 min to 30 min before monitor loses signal. When it regains the signal I experience an enormous drop in FPS. I haven't measured the exact FPS, but I'm guessing around 20-30 indoors and around 15 outdoors. If I exit and restart the game, the problem is gone until the monitor loses signal again (which it inevitably will). This renders Skyrim virtually unplayable.

Specs:EVGA GTX 670 (not OC)
AMD FX-8150
Cooler Master 212 EVO Heatsink
ASRock 990FX Extreme4
Windows 7 Home 64 bit
Seagate 1TB HDD8gb 
8GB DDR3 RAM (forgot which brand)
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W (about 4 years old now)
ASUS VW246H 24" monitor

I've tried:
-Changing all settings to low.
-Monitoring temps. GPU doesn't get over 75c nor is anything else running hot (I did notice that the GPU got to 81c one time before I changed the fan speed profile).
-Uninstalling and reinstalling driver. 
-Rolling back to several previous drivers
-Disabling NVIDIA HD Audio as I've heard this has caused a lot of problems for people. Unfortunately, this wasn't the culprit
-Tried a different monitor.
-Full computer virus and spyware scan. Two minor spyware issues showed up but were apparently cleaned.
-Switching DVI cables.
-Switching out GPU.  My old GTX460 does not experience crashing in game.
-Using a driver cleaner to uninstall then reinstall driver.
-Reformat.  This was my last resort before I attempt to RMA.  Crashes still occur.

I am also taking into consideration that this might be a PSU issue, but it'd be a big coincidence that this happened right after I installed a new GPU.

This issue is starting to drive me insane. Any suggestions before I do anything drastic (reformat, RMA)?
post edited by Lord Humungus - 2013/08/12 10:03:22
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 11:31:48 (permalink)
    Welcome to the EVGA forums
     
    Question: do you have any videocard monitoring/fan control software like Precision installed?
     
    Once you answer the question above, we can get you fixed up in a jiffy
    *your problem appears to be incorrect Nvidia driver install, monitoring software corruption and use of the Nvidia GeForce Experience  
    post edited by maniacvvv - 2013/08/07 11:43:20




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 11:43:45 (permalink)
    maniacvvv

    Welcome to the EVGA forums

    Question: do you have any videocard monitoring/fan control software like Precision installed?

    Once you answer the question above, we can get you fixed up in a jiffy
    *your problem appears to be incorrect Nvidia driver install and use of the Nvidia GeForce Experience  


    +1.  I'd suspect that before anything else.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 11:49:34 (permalink)
    Yep...I have precision installed. I forgot to mention that I uninstalled precision and reinstalled it, but no cigar. I'm also using HWMonitor.
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 11:49:37 (permalink)
    Yeah I just need him to tell us what fan control software he is using...
    Then I can post up correct recovery




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 11:59:14 (permalink)
    Shut down HWMonitor
     
    Shut down Precision and then -uninstall- it
    During the Precision uninstall a box will pop up asking to "save profiles and data.."
    --->you MUST answer -NO- to this question
    *uninstalling and reinstalling -will not fix corruption- if you answer YES
    After the Precision uninstall is complete, reboot the computer once (do not skip this reboot)
     
    Now (after the Precision uninstall and reboot) simply download the Nvidia driver of your choice.
    Now launch the Nvidia installer
    Choose "Custom Mode"
    -uncheck- ALL Nvidia driver components except for Graphics driver and PhysX (nothing else checked)
    *also make sure to put in a check for "perform a clean install" box at the bottom
    Then hit next and install your drivers
     
    After the Nvidia driver install is complete reboot the computer once
    ----------------------------------
     
    That should fix your problems
     
    -->You may now reinstall Precision and setup your fan profile
    *in the future remember to NEVER ever attempt to install a Nvidia driver with Precision or HWMonitor running
    It is suggested to shut down and uninstall Precision (as noted) before Nvidia driver installs
    -----------------------------
     
    You problems were most likely a corrupted Precision file and using the GeForce Experience
    -->We have fixed your Precision issue and clean installed your Nvidia drivers
    All you need to do now is when you launch each game, is to setup your in-game settings
    *remember to leave your NVCP (Nvidia control panel) at -defaults-
     
    Game On
    post edited by maniacvvv - 2013/08/07 12:05:39




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 12:23:24 (permalink)
    Thanks for the detailed response...ill try this when I get home.

    To be clear, I can continue using geforce Experience as usual?
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 12:30:24 (permalink)
    Lord Humungus

    Thanks for the detailed response...ill try this when I get home.

    To be clear, I can continue using geforce Experience as usual?

     
    Absolutely not
     
    The GeForce Experience program does not work correctly on many titles and has serious settings issues.
    -->The major problem with the GFE is that it will attempt to use settings that can cause serious performance issues
    That, and on some games it writes -broken- settings entries into a games config files that cause crashing and serious problems.
     
    Its unclear if Precision corruption or the Geforce Experience was the cause of your problems
    But the procedure I posted above will -correct- both of those issues
     
    I -highly- suggest you follow my directions -exactly- and then go and test 
     
     




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 12:32:03 (permalink)
    Lord Humungus

    Thanks for the detailed response...ill try this when I get home.

    To be clear, I can continue using geforce Experience as usual?


    Up to you, but personally, I wouldn't ever use it.  I think that's why in Maniac's instructions, he doesn't have you installing it.  But I'm sure he'll respond himself.  Don't want to speak for him.  You can do a much better job with your own game settings than software will do.  Just my 2 cents.
     
    LOL.  I guess he posted just as I did.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 13:41:22 (permalink)
    I actually only used it as a convenient method of updating drivers. I glanced at the game profiles and disabled them not too long after I installed it.

    This is all making sense as I started experiencing the issue shortly after a driver update and precision could have easily been running at the time. Ill update when I try maniac's suggestion.
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 13:55:56 (permalink)
    Lord Humungus

    I actually only used it as a convenient method of updating drivers. I glanced at the game profiles and disabled them not too long after I installed it.

    This is all making sense as I started experiencing the issue shortly after a driver update and precision could have easily been running at the time. Ill update when I try maniac's suggestion.


    Sounds good.  Let us know how it works out.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 17:56:23 (permalink)
    Your confidence had me thinking this problem was all but solved, but alas it was too good to be true. 
     
    I followed your directions to a tee and Shogun crashed the instant I loaded a saved game.  I uninstalled both Experience and  Precision.  I haven't reinstalled Precision at this moment.
     
    Any other ideas?
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 18:16:42 (permalink)
    Did you remember to change your in-game settings?
    Have you tried not using a save game?
     
    I thought that game has a built in benchmark, have you tried running it?
     
    Download and install Unigine Heaven 4.0 or Valley free benchmark tests
    http://unigine.com/
     
    post edited by maniacvvv - 2013/08/07 18:19:39




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 19:06:56 (permalink)
    I changed my in-game settings to High from Very High.
     
    Early on in the troubleshooting process I tried starting a new game and it let me go for around 7 turns before the crashing started.  I found that odd.
     
    Just ran the benchmark Shogun has built in on Very High settings without a hitch.  65 FPS average.  During the benchmark my GPU got up to 80 degrees.  Seems a bit high to me.   My GPU now idles in low 40s instead of its previous idle of mid thirties
     
    I also followed these to steps to completely clean out my nvidia drivers (didn't resolve the problem):
     
     
     
    EDIT: For some reason it's not letting me link.
    post edited by Lord Humungus - 2013/08/07 19:12:22
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 19:32:21 (permalink)
    I just confirmed that this problem is also occurring in Company of Heroes 2.  As soon as I begin a game the screen turns black and I get booted to desktop.
     
    This problem needs to go away
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 20:15:11 (permalink)
    I just ran the Heaven benchmark with somewhat interesting results.
     
    Ran benchmark of all scenes in DirectX11 on High quality with no tessellation or anti-aliasing.  Average FPS 65.  No crashes
     
    Tried adding normal Tessellation and x4 anti-aliasing.  It crashes to desktop within a second of starting.
     
    Tried just x4 AA and no tessellation.  No crash.
     
    Tried extreme Tessellation and no AA.  No crash.
     
    Tried moderate tessellation, X2 AA.  No crash.
     
    Tried x8 AA.  Crash.
     
    Tried DirectX9, Ultra quality, x8 AA.  No crash.
     
    Tried Direct X11, Ultra quality, no tessellation or AA.  Crash.
     
     
    Can someone explain why I am crashing as I ramp the settings up?  GPU temp never exceeded 81 during benchmark.
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 21:58:11 (permalink)
    Do you live in the U.S.?




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 22:29:20 (permalink)
    I do live in the US.
     
    UPDATE:  I switched out my 670 for my old 460 and now I'm even more confused than before.  I loaded up Shogun with DirectX11, High settings with tessellation and AA (settings that would have crashed my 670) and it played flawlessly for two turns that even included a large battle.  I was ready to chalk up the problem to the 670 as I quit to the desktop when I realized that I was unable to see my mouse pointer and my computer started feeling sluggish.  I had steam and HWMonitor open and all of a sudden HWMonitor quit on it's own.  The Steam window then turned solid black and would disappear then reappear every 5 seconds or so.  I pressed ctrl+alt+del and it took 10 seconds to come up.  My computer was completely wigging out.  Luckily I was able to hit shut down and avoided a hard boot.  I never experience crashing on my desktop while the 670 was in.
     
    Hopefully I'm not dealing with two separate problems here, but I'm at a loss.  I think my next step is to reformat.
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 22:35:05 (permalink)
    Please check your PM's




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 22:41:17 (permalink)
    PM sent




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 22:51:36 (permalink)
    Just saw your PM Maniac.  I am unable to PM you a response because it has not been 5 days since I registered, but I really appreciate your help with this. Talk about going above and beyond!  I will most likely take up your offer in the next few days.
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/07 22:58:40 (permalink)
    Please do
    I am west coast time zone... best time is after 9pm 
     
    Until then.. stop using HWMonitor as it is known to have some problems
    *the free versions dont work correctly with the latest drivers, and even the PAID versions have needed updates to stop crashing.
     
    If your swapping cards around.. make sure you uninstall Precision and answer NO before doing so. 
     
    After swapping cards, always do a Custom Mode install of just the Graphics driver and PhysX with Clean install checked.
    post edited by maniacvvv - 2013/08/07 23:10:54




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/08 09:27:36 (permalink)
    Lord Humungus

    Your confidence had me thinking this problem was all but solved, but alas it was too good to be true. 

    I followed your directions to a tee and Shogun crashed the instant I loaded a saved game.  I uninstalled both Experience and  Precision.  I haven't reinstalled Precision at this moment.

    Any other ideas?




    Sorry to hear it didn't work out yet.  Maniac will get you straightened out on this I'm sure...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/09 03:48:51 (permalink)
    a couple of things i can think of on top of my head:
     
    (in the order of most likely to least likely)
    1) drivers/software corruption
    2) power related
    3) unstable cpu overclock (not very likely at all)
     
    when i say power issue, i dont mean your psu isn't good enough, the tx750 unit is great and more than enough to feed your system. it could be from a defect, premature degradation failure, bad/loose plug/connectors.
     
    but yeah just keep following maniac's troubleshooting, im sure we'll get to a conclusion.

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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/09 08:50:19 (permalink)
    It's definitely not a cpu issue as it's not OC'ed and is not running hot.

    Do you guys think it could possibly have something to do with my power strip dying? I've been using the same one for about 8 or 9 years now. My entire computer and peripherals are running through that thing. I've also noticed that I have to turn the volume on my speakers almost to the max to achieve the same level it used to have at less than half of max level.
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/09 08:54:52 (permalink)
    Lord Humungus

    It's definitely not a cpu issue as it's not OC'ed and is not running hot.

    Do you guys think it could possibly have something to do with my power strip dying? I've been using the same one for about 8 or 9 years now. My entire computer and peripherals are running through that thing. I've also noticed that I have to turn the volume on my speakers almost to the max to achieve the same level it used to have at less than half of max level.


    That could be and should be fairly easy to rule out by removing it.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/09 09:01:02 (permalink)
    Lord Humungus

    It's definitely not a cpu issue as it's not OC'ed and is not running hot.

    Do you guys think it could possibly have something to do with my power strip dying? I've been using the same one for about 8 or 9 years now. My entire computer and peripherals are running through that thing. I've also noticed that I have to turn the volume on my speakers almost to the max to achieve the same level it used to have at less than half of max level.


    As was mentioned earlier in your thread, it could be your 4 year old PSU that's beginning to die. 


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/09 19:11:12 (permalink)
    I've noticed that Windows Event Log gives me this warning every time the monitor loses signal:
     
    "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered."
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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/09 20:26:56 (permalink)
    Hey bro, I am now available for the next 5hrs
     
    Call me




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    Re:GTX 670: Monitor briefly losing signal during gaming, crashing, BSOD 2013/08/10 01:46:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for your help tonight, Maniac.
     
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