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2019/07/25 12:53:30 (permalink)
My new GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming card was sitting here waiting for me when I got home for lunch today! I spent about 5 minutes to install (including drivers 431.60), and switch MB BIOS back over to main BIOS, then started F@H - had my lunch - back to work - and now back home.
 
So I thought I'd post my early results: this is stock out of the box. The only adjustment I made was to set the fan manually to 100% fan speed in Afterburner.  It's folding at a core speed of 1920MHz, and running at about 58C with occasional rises up to 59C and back down.
 
First project was 11728 R0, C1533, G517
Assigned to work server @ 16:40:03
WORK_ACK time 18:55:51
Final credit estimate = 66442 points
Total run time: 2h 15m 48s
Avg time / frame = 1m 21.48s
est PPD for this work unit = 702,000
best step time = 1m 19s
 
Second project is (current) 14125 R16, C27, G66
Assigned to work server @ 18:54:07
currently at 11% @ 19:35:29
Total run time : 41m 22s
Avg time / frame = 3m 45.64s
est PPD for this work unit = 652,000
best step time = 3m 37s
 
Kinda sucky, but that's all I can afford for now.
 
EDIT: added updated HFM results as of 9PM EST 7-28-2019
 
 
 
EDIT:  Adding results since last update - Still have not received a core 22 work unit.

 
EDIT: Another round of results added

post edited by SM-71 - 2019/08/11 08:24:05

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/25 13:06:47 (permalink)
    Any Core 22 runs?

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/25 15:16:10 (permalink)
    Not yet, but only running for 5 hours now.  Current work unit(2nd work unit on this card) will end in about 2.5 hours, then I'm shutting down for other maintenance, but will start folding again before bed, so maybe tomorrow or over the weekend.

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/25 16:17:36 (permalink)
    Here's a screenshot of it running at +25MHz core which only boosted clock speed up to 1935 from 1920...
     


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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/26 22:27:06 (permalink)
    In Windows the numbers will be slightly lower than Linux.
    However, I can give you a few pointers to optimize the overclocking settings,
     
    1- Fold with the card stone cold (<55C), no OC.
    2- Read the GPU frequency before the card hits 55C. This will be your aim to overclock to.
    3- Set fanspeed to 100%.
    4- Reduce the power limit. In Linux you can have a very precise power tuning. In MSI Afterburner for Windows, there's only a slider. But drag the slider all the way down (lowering your card's performance,while reducing it's heat as well). You can pair the information with what GPUZ tells you your card is consuming.
    5- Increase overclock. Most of these cards do 100Mhz overclock easily, but some can only do 60Mhz. Others can do 135Mhz (and GTX cards can often do even more than that). It's just the luck of the draw. Start increasing overclock ~20Mhz every minute or so. When the WU fails, dial that number down by 30. This is your baseline overclock value. Then run further tests:
    6- Dial down the fan speed, to where the temperature either stays below 55C or below 60c (or below 65C); whatever you can bear in terms of fan noise.
    7- Optimize airflow in your case. Try to figure out why a card isn't cooling well. Sometimes taping off certain areas, and placing fans in the right location/moving air in the right direction, or removing some PC case panels, can help keep the GPU cooler.
    8- If the WU runs stable, and no failure happens increase by +5Mhz increments every few hours or so. If the log displays an overclocking error, dial down by 5Mhz. The readout's accuracy is only 15Mhz, but internally the GPU can be precisely adjusted to a single Mhz or two.
    9- Once you have found your maximum stable overclock (say +125Mhz at minimum power levels), dial down the overclock by 5 or 10 Mhz, and increase power levels and fan speed to where the GPU frequency is close to the stock boost frequency found when you tested the card cold, and where the temperatures stay below half a decimal value (50, 55, 60, 65, or 70C).
     
    When done right, you should have ~95% of the stock performance, for only ~60-80% of the stock power consumption; depending on which RTX/GTX card you own.
     
    From there on, you can play with the power levels, to see how much PPDs you gain for every +10W (or +10% of) extra power.
    Most cards perform poorly when set to minimum power levels, and have a peak efficiency somewhere between minimum power draw, and stock power.
    Once you found where on the power scale the card runs most stable, highest PPD per watt,  keep the card there.

    Some people prefer to run the card with low power settings, saving $$$ on electricity.
    Some people prefer to fold more efficiently, at slightly higher electric cost.
    Some people prefer to fold closer to the maximum the card can fold to, at even slightly more $$$ on electrical power.
    The higher the power levels, the faster the card will fold, but the lower the efficiency; to the point where the last 10-30% of power added to the card (ending in stock power levels), results in higher electric cost, at no noticeable performance gains.
    post edited by ProDigit - 2019/07/26 22:39:33
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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/27 12:04:44 (permalink)
    Nice beginners guide to GPU overclocking there ProDigit....   while effective, it is very slow and time consuming for those of us with almost 2 decades of overclocking experience (my first OC was way back in 2000 - overclocking a Slot 1 Celeron 333MHz cpu!!!  
     
    As far as airflow, Air540 case = wind-win (pun intended) without making custom air channels out of plastic, cardboard, etc..., you cannot improve upon it very easily.

     
    GPU fan noise on this card is IMPRESSIVELY low at 100% BTW.  Not even noticeable while gaming at medium low sound levels.
     
    There are much faster ways to reach the same overclocking results.  OC Scanner is just one of those ways.  If you pay attention to it, especially the last 3 - 5 minutes, you can get a very good idea of what your card is capable of.  You can also seek out the maximum overclock at stock voltage, back it off 10%, then start reducing your voltage if you're looking for efficiency.  
     
    For example, my 1660 Ti showed 2050MHz @ 1050mv near the end of OC Scanner run.  OC Scanner completed with a 98+ Pass rating.  So, I started my F @ H stability test at 2025MHz 1037mv (stock voltage - as in this is what it was running in F @ H without Afterburner / Precision X1 running).  On project 14179, my best frame times went from 3m 16s down to 3m 8s, after an hour it is still stable, and I haven't even put the GPU on water cooling yet

     
    I also switched from Afterburner to Precision X1 because Afterburner would not change or even display the voltage.  Though Precision X1 doesn't seem to change the voltage either, I tried a 10mv reduction (just get a red box around the voltage & cannot apply it), and up to 25mv increase, but continues to show 1037mv in both PX1 and GPUz.
     
    But even without a reduction in voltage, this 1660 Ti card used considerably less power than my old GTX970 card!!!
    post edited by SM-71 - 2019/07/28 19:23:03

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/28 06:25:39 (permalink)
    Yeah, the procedure is slow, but very accurate for folding.
     
    In fact, the basic overclocking procedure is pretty fast. Only takes a few minutes to do.
    The second phase is necessary for RTX cards. They can be ran at ~95-98% of performance for ~60-80% of the power consumption; which is a significant power and heat saving, if you're folding 24/7.
    The overclocking values are different at lower power consumption, than when stock overclocking.
     
    But what takes most time, is FAH overclocking.
    For gaming, the procedure wouldn't take more than 5 minutes per card.
    But for folding, sometimes a setting could work for a day or two, before it returns a bad WU; and I'd have to modify a setting.
    Or reverse, one could be folding for days, on an overclocking setting that's less than ideal.
     
    I generally don't touch voltage, as it's not a feature easily accessible in Linux.
    And I yet have to read up on power consumption values as a result of modifying the GPU voltage.
    Most people use the power settings for that in Linux.
     
     
    post edited by ProDigit - 2019/07/28 06:29:21
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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/28 19:19:33 (permalink)
    Updated first post with new results as recorded in HFM.  This card really likes project 14158 @ 884kPPD  but hates 11718 @ less than 630kPPD  gotta take the bad with the good, and still much better than the 380k - 460k PPD my GTX970 FTW Gaming was getting
     
    No core 22's so far, the WU that just started is also core 21.

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/28 20:25:17 (permalink)
    Thanks for providing the update, SM-71.  I've been pretty happy with an MSI Armor OC 1660 ti pushing 2.025 GHz @6.8 GHz DDR6 using stock fans with Win7 on a really old machine; I get around 700k PPD give or take.  I've been considering switching everything over to Linux and emulating Win7 or 10 to cut down on the OS overhead and to reduce the cost of setting up a lot more machines in the near future....I think Chris and ProDigit (and others) have submitted some really thoughtful posts on the forum to help with the process (thanks again, fellas!).
    post edited by DrSchmidt - 2019/07/28 20:26:26
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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/07/29 13:50:08 (permalink)
    Thank you for sharing your results SM-71
     
    keep updating as you go

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/08/03 14:18:58 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Thank you for sharing your results SM-71
     
    keep updating as you go


    Just updated original post with next round of results.  IF this were a secondary PC, it could get 21M / month running 24/7 with room to spare.  Out of the last 26 WU's, only 1 WU under 700k PPD, and 9 over 750k PPD :)  But as my primary use PC, that won't be happening... :(

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/08/11 08:29:28 (permalink)
    Added final round of updates for stock air cooler to the first post.  
     
    I will add one more round of updates after I modify my card to add water cooling.  May be up to 2 weeks from now, I have to very carefully drill out the 4 mounting holes on the card by 1.2mm to get the NZXT G12 mounting brackets to fit.

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    Re: GTX 1660 Ti XC Gaming - early folding results 2019/08/11 09:05:43 (permalink)
    Thanks for the Updates
     
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