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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/20 09:42:22 (permalink)
Mine are W10.
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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/20 10:10:15 (permalink)
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Are all these numbers under windows?  Linux should add another 10-15% if its works properly


Correct, though I wasn't able to get the Nvidia driver installed... most likely due to me not knowing how to properly.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/20 14:27:01 (permalink)
Looks interesting, I have 2 machines folding.  One with a Titan and my main rig with EVGA 980ti and EVGA 980.  I get about 1mill ppd between all 3.  Plan is Titan goes to son for gaming rig, 980 goes to Titan box and 1080 FTW and 980TI stay in my main box.  Figure I should get about another 600k PPD a day.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/23 08:01:18 (permalink)
Nice good to see the 1070 can crank out about double of what my 970 SSC does.

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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/24 09:39:28 (permalink)
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OK, ran another 9 units @100% power and the conclusion is at best a 10% improvement when directly comparing unit 9704 before and after. at worse only 5% improvement on the group avg if you remove the unusually high PPD unit 9205.
 
SO, those numbers should be good enough to say that at best a 1070 may get you around 600K PPD, after a little OCing.


Are these new card's power settings different? All my previous cards ran at 100% power setting right out of the box. Were you trying something different?
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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/24 09:46:39 (permalink)
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9158  x18 core = 471689 for a 980 ti  (so its 30k points less then the 9157)

10489 = 493380



and eats almost twice the amount of electricity.
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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/06/24 10:54:36 (permalink)
kram36Are these new card's power settings different? All my previous cards ran at 100% power setting right out of the box. Were you trying something different?

 
Chris21010OK, i got a video for you to watch and i think you'll be as perplexed as i currently am about this power issue.
 
https://youtu.be/t8Iyp3BFF30
 
in short, if you want 100% GPU utilization you'll have to open a youtube video, pause it, and leave it there. otherwise it will drop right back down to ~60%.

 
dont ask me why or how it just is.
 


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/11 01:30:02 (permalink)
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toyking22
9158  x18 core = 471689 for a 980 ti  (so its 30k points less then the 9157)

10489 = 493380



and eats almost twice the amount of electricity.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 05:30:55 (permalink)
In a day or two I should be able to run some 1070 tests of my own. Getting excited while waiting!


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 05:55:59 (permalink)
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In a day or two I should be able to run some 1070 tests of my own. Getting excited while waiting!



Finally caught an in stock product I see. Hope it gets there quickly and safely. Looking forward to seeing your results.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 06:09:21 (permalink)
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Finally caught an in stock product I see. Hope it gets there quickly and safely. Looking forward to seeing your results.



The Egg had stock at just the right time for me to run across, so I picked up one of the 1070 SC cards. If things go well and I can sell off a couple more pieces of clutter, I might be able to get my 2nd shortly. Crossing fingers, knocking on wood, all that jazz.
 
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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 06:20:47 (permalink)
i guess i'll make note now instead of later but i am re-running my tests as i recently learned that even though all my hardware is pcie 3.0 compliant i was running at pcie 2.0 speeds. i had to force enable pcie 3.0 on my system for it to run at those speeds. but i currently only have 3 finished units so i don't have enough data to properly compare but i know that there will be a slight increase.
post edited by Chris21010 - 2016/07/13 06:21:52


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 09:10:48 (permalink)
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i guess i'll make note now instead of later but i am re-running my tests as i recently learned that even though all my hardware is pcie 3.0 compliant i was running at pcie 2.0 speeds. i had to force enable pcie 3.0 on my system for it to run at those speeds. but i currently only have 3 finished units so i don't have enough data to properly compare but i know that there will be a slight increase.



Most likely you won't see any change. Folding is not a bandwith intensive application. It uses a lot of core power but not a lot of data transfer over the PCI-e lanes.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 11:16:00 (permalink)
zopharMost likely you won't see any change. Folding is not a bandwith intensive application. It uses a lot of core power but not a lot of data transfer over the PCI-e lanes.


If this was a 970 i would be inclined to agree without a second thought. but this is a pascal GPU so i have to give it the benefit of the doubt.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 11:19:38 (permalink)
Is there anyone running a single 1070? I don't really care much for ppd estimates, and I would like to look into a possible update for the folding rig only. I am curious what actual production lows are on a single 1070. Currently, 2 970's are getting around a 500k low without being uninterrupted.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 11:22:30 (permalink)
my numbers are a single 1070... and i assume by low you are implying minimum PPD values? if so then 500K would be a solid minimum ppd estimate for the 1070.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 11:56:25 (permalink)
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my numbers are a single 1070... and i assume by low you are implying minimum PPD values? if so then 500K would be a solid minimum ppd estimate for the 1070.


That is what I am looking for. Like I said, running 2 970's, they have shown an uninterrupted point production of low 500k but a high around 580k.if the low for the 1070 is 500k, it will be worth the price to remove 2 GPU's and replace with 1.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 16:46:58 (permalink)
OK, im 7 units in now after i corrected that pcie buss problem and so far its a 10% improvement over previous numbers to ~630K PPD. i am going to let this run a couple more days and if it stays this way or if it falls off i'll let you know. if this does stabilize 10% higher than before i'll correct my first post numbers with the new data.
post edited by Chris21010 - 2016/07/13 16:49:14


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/13 16:57:47 (permalink)
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OK, im 7 units in now after i corrected that pcie buss problem and so far its a 10% improvement over previous numbers to ~630K PPD. i am going to let this run a couple more days and if it stays this way or if it falls off i'll let you know. if this does stabilize 10% higher than before i'll correct my first post numbers with the new data.




 
You are awesome!  Thank you for everything bud.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/14 03:52:42 (permalink)
Increasing the PCI bus to 3.0 does help.  I am running a X79 mobo with 3960x and running the NVIDIA patch to take it to 3.0 ups performance 10-15% Folding.  At 2.0 my cards in GPUZ where each at eating 49-51 percent of the PCI bus.  Going to 3 they are now at 26-30% each.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/14 06:06:57 (permalink)
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Increasing the PCI bus to 3.0 does help.  I am running a X79 mobo with 3960x and running the NVIDIA patch to take it to 3.0 ups performance 10-15% Folding.  At 2.0 my cards in GPUZ where each at eating 49-51 percent of the PCI bus.  Going to 3 they are now at 26-30% each.

 
ya, the 1070 is pulling a constant 35% on the bus and after 9 completed units i am at 11% improvement. so it seems that i'll be replacing that data on my first post with this new run once i get a few more units completed.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/15 04:14:22 (permalink)
What cpu are you driving the rig with?  I've done some experiments on a 970 & 980ti on PCIe 1,2 and 3 and have only seen 6% improvements at most, but I'm wondering if my slow cpu is bottling the cards a bit. 

  


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/15 05:53:36 (permalink)
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What cpu are you driving the rig with?  I've done some experiments on a 970 & 980ti on PCIe 1,2 and 3 and have only seen 6% improvements at most, but I'm wondering if my slow cpu is bottling the cards a bit. 

 
i have an older i7-3930K but this thing still packs a hard kick in the performance category. i find it funny how there is still very little gains made in the last few generations of CPU's. but even its avg load is ~12% and can peak around 20%.
 
also, after 15 units the avg improvement is 10%. this increases the 1070's points per watt to 4,196 and the point to USD spent to 1,430. the points per watt is still behind the 1080 by 5.5% but the points per USD spent is a good bit higher than the 1080 now by 16.8%. i'll update my first post after work today.
post edited by Chris21010 - 2016/07/15 05:55:02


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/16 15:20:06 (permalink)
HAY, i can finally use the forums again! so what i meant to post yesterday is now on the main post. for simplicity i'll put the stuff here too so you dont have to go back.
 
 
OK, first off my initial testing was off by nearly 10%, 569,252 vs 634,077, because i found out that even though all my hardware was pcie 3.0 compliant the gpu was actually running pcie 2.0 until i forced it to run at 3.0 speeds. if you want a direct unit to unit comparison of pcie 2.0 vs pcie 3.0 look below.
 
PCIE 3.0
9704: 636,693 
9704: 644,790 
9704: 645,873 
9704: 638,934 
9704: 648,603 
Avg PPD: 642,978
 
PCIE 2.0
9704: 638,585 
9704: 572,532 
9704: 575,073 
9704: 572,382 
Avg PPD: 589,643
 
8.295% improvement with the 1070 going form pcie 2.0 to pcie 3.0.
 
  
Now with the 1070 avg being 634,077 PPD it is 26% lower than that of the 1080. some other useful stats on the 1070 is that its PPD per Watt at 150W full load is 4,227 and its PPD per USD spent is 1,441. On the other hand the 1080 has 4,423 PPD/W and 1,244 PPD/$. with the 1080 achieving 26% higher PPD while only increasing its TDP by 17% to 180 Watts the 1080 wins in efficiency by 5%. BUT it looses in the PPD over cost department! With an increased cost of 48%, $650 vs $440, the 1070 is actually 18% higher in PPD per USD spent.
 
so in conclusion, if efficiency is your goal and cost doesn't matter then the 1080 is the go to folding card right now. but if cost is of concern the 1070's are there to help you out and not break the bank.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/20 11:04:24 (permalink)
Any idea if the 1080 numbers are from a system properly configured for PCIE 3.0?


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/20 11:31:53 (permalink)
i would assume so, my system was an old x79 mobo and cpu which was actually a common issue. anyone running newer systems shouldn't have to worry about that. also if you look here there is a 1080 but FTW edition instead of founders which had an avg PPD of 746,414 over a much larger sample of 28 units.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/21 12:56:09 (permalink)
Did not expect to see that much of a difference between PCIe 2.0 and 3.0. I'm running a single GTX 1070 on PCIe 2.0. I typically only fold overnight a few times a week but I seem to float between 600-750k PPD based on the estimates.
 
Any chance you were running PCIe 2.0 x8 before the switch?


 
 
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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/21 13:32:07 (permalink)
Eric1285Any chance you were running PCIe 2.0 x8 before the switch?

 
nope, GPU-Z said pci-e 2.0 x16 until i went and forced 3.0 following this posts instructions.


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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/23 09:25:45 (permalink)
Just an FYI - I found my Gigabyte board refused to show PCI-E 3.0 even when I manually forced it, but found this link to an NVidia app specific to X79 for this issue

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3135/~/geforce-gen3-support-on-x79-platform

Could be worth a shot as well.

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Re: GTX 1070 PPD 2016/07/26 09:11:03 (permalink)
It seems that the 1070 FTW was just in Stock... It also seems that one was just ordered under my account... Interesting.


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