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2017/06/14 05:19:02 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/234342/flagship-amd-ryzen-threadripper-16-core-chip-appears-on-geekbench
 
Not too bad of a single core score but I personally believe the multicore score could be better

 

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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 06:38:57 (permalink)
    Something is not right, that's not real result...
    Because this is i7-5820K on 4.2GHz and 4.0GHz Cache...
     
    Difference was to small with 4.0.3 Geekbench than I installed 4.1.0 and than result is even better...
    On 4.03 Single core was 4.xxx, now is 5.063... Maybe I didn't enable something, x64 bit test...
     

     
     
     
     
     


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 06:58:09 (permalink)
    Is the threadripper AMD's top of the line CPU?  It doesn't appear to even match up with the 5820 Haswell .  I kind of had hoped AMD would have pushed through passed Intel, but it doesn't look like it's there yet, but maybe it's going to get there?  Any input from people who are the technology field who know more than I if that might be the case?  Thank you.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 07:59:04 (permalink)
    Looking these results I don't know why to change X99 platform.
    Only if I find i9-7900X for very low price similar to i7-7820X.
    If If I see i9-7900X for 500 euro I would bought him now instantly...
    Maybe I should ask some of LN2 overclockers for some used- but not excellent sample only capable to work on Turbo Boost 3.0 or 4.6GHz...
    They get for free, and maybe want to sell, why not.
     
    In Serbia if someone get i9-7900X new without warranty can't sell him more than 500-550 euro.
    Every year is same situation. If i7-7820X show up he will cost 400 euro MAX. Our his price is same as i7-5930K and he was available for 380 euro.
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2017/06/14 08:01:41


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 08:58:38 (permalink)
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    Is the threadripper AMD's top of the line CPU?  It doesn't appear to even match up with the 5820 Haswell .  I kind of had hoped AMD would have pushed through passed Intel, but it doesn't look like it's there yet, but maybe it's going to get there?  Any input from people who are the technology field who know more than I if that might be the case?  Thank you.


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 09:02:39 (permalink)
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    mretsam
    Is the threadripper AMD's top of the line CPU?  It doesn't appear to even match up with the 5820 Haswell .  I kind of had hoped AMD would have pushed through passed Intel, but it doesn't look like it's there yet, but maybe it's going to get there?  Any input from people who are the technology field who know more than I if that might be the case?  Thank you.


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 10:39:54 (permalink)
    Weak score. Here is mine... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3116277


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 10:47:58 (permalink)
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    Weak score. Here is mine... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3116277




    Give us the MSRP of your chip.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 10:51:20 (permalink)
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    Weak score. Here is mine... https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3116277




    Give us the MSRP of your chip.


    https://ark.intel.com/pro...M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 11:51:40 (permalink)
    That's a lot.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/14 13:10:58 (permalink)
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    That's a lot.


    Definitely not worth a $1000 today, but it was definitely worth it in Q2 of 2014.


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/15 12:19:30 (permalink)
    Yes people but some news I don't know is it true or not show Threadripper 1998X 16 core Cinebench 15 Multi Score.
    He is for few points weaker than Intel Xeon E5 2699 V4 22 cores launched before 10 months and worth 4000$.
    That's insane, if he with 16 cores on arround 4.0GHz give such high score and work so good in multi applications, that mean that single core is not so bad at all.
     
    But I can't say is it true or not...
     

     
    Over 3100 points in Cinebench... That's like two i7-5820K overclocked and a lot more.
    From i7-5820K and i7-5930K you can pull 1250-1350, that's far from over 3000.
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2017/06/15 12:26:39


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/15 20:26:05 (permalink)
    Tech Power Up (aka RJ's favorite link resource) should work in politics. Cherry picking one unsubstantiated score and presenting it as confirmation bias.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/15 23:41:14 (permalink)
    Even the single score is being held back by the memory.  Asus just released a new bios for my MB and I have my memory stable at 3433 and My bench mark scores went way up and that was without OC'ing the CPU.  I have not gotten around to testing that as the bios only came out a day or 2 ago.  I didn't notice it until yesterday. I cant see any reason why it would be that low.  I may try setting my memory at that speed and testing it.  I will post pictures if anyone is interested.
     
    Sorry if my post is out of order or had already been discussed.  I had my settings for tree view and didn't realize the conversation was that long...  apologies, my bad...
     
    post edited by Nandro - 2017/06/15 23:48:43
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 00:22:50 (permalink)
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    Even the single score is being held back by the memory.  Asus just released a new bios for my MB and I have my memory stable at 3433 and My bench mark scores went way up and that was without OC'ing the CPU.  I have not gotten around to testing that as the bios only came out a day or 2 ago.  I didn't notice it until yesterday. I cant see any reason why it would be that low.  I may try setting my memory at that speed and testing it.  I will post pictures if anyone is interested.
     
    Sorry if my post is out of order or had already been discussed.  I had my settings for tree view and didn't realize the conversation was that long...  apologies, my bad...
     


    No one in this thread has really discussed it, but yea that was one of the things that held ryzen back at launch. The infinity fabric speed inside the chip was tied to ram speed, and there was a bunch of wonkyness going on there. 3 months later, much of it is ironed out, but I imagine not all.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 00:39:54 (permalink)
    I'm running the Flare X AT 3433  with the newest bios and it works fine.  I think they will get even better.  I do think ryzen prefers certain ram because I have a pair of G.Skill 3200 that won't post over 2166 although I have not tried it with the newest bios yet. I run it at 3333 for everyday use unless benching. The scores in that posted Geekbench I can see are memory bound.  My FPS, everything improved with the improved memory speed.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 00:55:25 (permalink)
    My memory was running at the same speed as the threadripper. 5960x FTW! 


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 01:00:06 (permalink)
    For those people who say the score is fake...
     
    https://browser.geekbench.../search?q=threadripper


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 01:47:56 (permalink)
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    For those people who say the score is fake...
     
    https://browser.geekbench.../search?q=threadripper


    *facepalm* look at the hardware on every one of those. The exact same ASROCK mobo and 16gb of ram. It's the same guy making those benches. If they can make one faked bench they can make 10. Do we know if Geekbenk is optimized for Intel processors? One person and one bench as a singular source of information is not enough to make any sort of definitive judgement on pre-release versions of the hardware.
    post edited by Brad_Hawthorne - 2017/06/16 01:53:12
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 01:51:09 (permalink)
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    For those people who say the score is fake...
     
    https://browser.geekbench.../search?q=threadripper


    *facepalm* look at the hardware on every one of those. The exact same ASROCK mobo and 16gb of ram. It's the same guy making those benches. If they can make one faked bench they can make 10.





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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 03:44:14 (permalink)
    Hmmm... If a Ryzen 1700 look like this:
    https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3133821
     
    Only 1700 points of difference in multithread score? The scores are fake or the benckmark is not optimized for 32 threads.

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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 07:32:02 (permalink)
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    For those people who say the score is fake...
     
    https://browser.geekbench.../search?q=threadripper


    something really seems off with the memory in all of them, like its running at half the speed its supposed to.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/16 11:23:40 (permalink)
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    For those people who say the score is fake...
     
    https://browser.geekbench.../search?q=threadripper


    something really seems off with the memory in all of them, like its running at half the speed its supposed to.


    The memory speed is at 2133MHz in those runs.
    post edited by Sajin - 2017/06/16 11:27:59


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/17 23:22:50 (permalink)
     
    That's why doing your own benches are better, if you could do it.       

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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/18 02:47:32 (permalink)
    Here are some benchmarks with my 1700X. CPU boost was disabled in both runs.
    Ryzen 1700X@3.9GHz - 3600MT/s CL16 2T
    Ryzen 1700X@3.4GHz - 2133MT/s CL10 1T


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/18 10:50:19 (permalink)
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    Here are some benchmarks with my 1700X. CPU boost was disabled in both runs.
    Ryzen 1700X@3.9GHz - 3600MT/s CL16 2T
    Ryzen 1700X@3.4GHz - 2133MT/s CL10 1T


    I love how you tried to make it look like the ram speed is having a massive affect on the score. Do another run @ 3.9GHz while running the ram at 2133MHz.
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/18 11:12:40 (permalink)
    Ram speed does have a massive effect on Ryzen CPUs, the infinity mesh speed is tied to ram speed.
    Not only that, but you see his 1700x got a higher multithread score then threadripper, you know something is off with the threadripper score.
    post edited by starsmine - 2017/06/18 11:16:05
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/18 11:20:09 (permalink)
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    Ram speed does have a massive effect on Ryzen CPUs, the infinity mesh speed is tied to ram speed.
    Not only that, but you see his 1700x got a higher multithread score then threadripper, you know something is off with the threadripper score.


    Actually it got a lower score if you look at his 3.4GHz run with 2133MHz.


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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/18 11:30:11 (permalink)
    a 3.9ghz 8 core with CPU boost disabled should never get a higher score then a 3.4ghz 16 core with CPU boost enabled in a multi-threaded test. There is something very wrong with that Threadripper score, no matter how you look at it.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Flagship AMD Ryzen Threadripper 16-core Chip Appears on GeekBench 2017/06/18 13:03:06 (permalink)
    Why are people giving this garbage benchmark so much credit? The ryzen 8 core gives the 6950x a run for its money in most of the major benchmarks and its an 8 core versus the 10 core. Let's not forget how much of a fantabulous show the new intel chips are gonna be and how much of a step backwards the new mobos are. We're talking keys on mobos again=/ also devs of the mobos are supposed to support 4 cores all the way to 18? Even they are pissed. Im sorry but threadripper will crush intel. Intel sat on its high horse and hardly innovated. Amd worked their asses off to dev ryzen and the cherry on top that nobody saw coming was threadripper. Single core performance isnt quite as good as skylake but you aren't buying threadripper for scp but mcp.
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