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2010/12/17 17:42:49 (permalink)
I was going to make a nice wiring track to run under a long counter that spans the edge of the wall all the way around the room and run every 6-10 feet a drop with power/network drops.
 
I was wanting to actually use a 220 volt run for the PCs and the 110 volt for everything else. This room is REALLY close to the circuit box so running the line here would not be that hard and I already have a spare double throw circuit breaker laying around to do this.
 
Was just wondering if anyone has ever tried to do this before?

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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2010/12/17 19:42:23 (permalink)
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    I was wanting to actually use a 220 volt run for the PCs and the 110 volt for everything else. This room is REALLY close to the circuit box so running the line here would not be that hard and I already have a spare double throw circuit breaker laying around to do this.


    What do you mean by this? Most computer PSUs in the USA are 120V and you can't usually use 220 on them. You can however run two 120V circuits from your "double-throw" CB (not legally). Just remember keep the ground separate from the neutral, and only connect them both to the same bar if that box is the "service disconnect." You can tell this by looking at said bar, if both white wires and bare wires are connected to it then it is. Otherwise, there will be a separate bar for ground. Another consideration is, is there available CB slots and bar terminals available? Even if there are available knockouts in the cover panel, that doesn't mean there are bus bars behind them, you need to look. They often used the same cover for boxes with less circuits. Be careful not to fumble the cover into the box when you take it off / put it on.

    About your project, you can get stuff made for just that from electrical supply stores such as Home Depot, but you might balk at the price. When you add up the parts a simple project becomes quite expensive, and doesn't look all that good unless you like the laboratory bench look. Building it into the wall is often actually quite a bit cheaper (fortunately I have the know-how). I added two receptacles in my wall for our computers, one circuit each, 20A (NEMA 5-20R) Hospital grade - they have better tension on the prongs and therefore better connection and last forever.
     

     
    Actually that's the old 15A NEMA 5-15R Hospital grade recep. I haven't photographed the 20A yet.
     

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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2010/12/17 22:30:54 (permalink)
    Well I feel dumb lol, after researching what 220 is in the US if feel so dumb.
     
    Always thought that items where wired positive, natural, grount.
    I now know its really positive, natural, ground on a 3 wire install and positive, positive, natural, ground on a 4 wire install.
     
    Well Ill just run a high amp 120 line. Think I can find a 20 AMP breaker and wiring at Lowe's.
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2010/12/18 11:14:17 (permalink)
    Cut-in boxes are easy to use, the plastic ones where two tabs swing out behind the sheetrock when you turn the screws, and secure the box sort-of automatically. Do not use those metal "Plaster fingers" (can't remember what they are actually called) bend tabs without wrapping a lot of electrical tape around the receptacle to prevent shorting.
     
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    Well I feel dumb lol, after researching what 220 is in the US if feel so dumb. 

    Nah, lots of smart ppls don't know about that. Think nothing else of it.
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/03/20 02:24:04 (permalink)
    so your able to run this psu on a 120volt circuit with 20amp. i just bought one and didnt realize that it came from china it had the different plug style on it for there 220volt circuits.  i ordered one from the usa but wanted to make sure that i didnt have to have a different volt circuit to run the power supply.  this is my first build and i really dont want to mess anything up. 
     
    thank you in advance for you suggestions or advice. 
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/03/20 02:45:55 (permalink)
    It's always best to get an electrician involved when working with wiring to the circuit breaker and to make sure no problem exists since the home needs to remain up to code.

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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/06 16:58:24 (permalink)
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    What do you mean by this? Most computer PSUs in the USA are 120V and you can't usually use 220 on them.

    Dead WRONG! Unless you are a licensed electrician, don't offer electrical advice because you are offering BAD advice.
     
    I've been running my successful computer business for 45+ years with 7500+ clients & I have been a licensed electrician since '73 & NOT one PSU I have come across or utilized in 50 years comes without a voltage switch near the mains power receptacle (115/230). Only INFERIOR or JUNK PSUs lack the voltage selector or ability to accept 115-240 VAC. Even the laptop power blocks accept 90-240VAC & have for several decades because they are universal & can be used ANYWHERE on this planet, same for PSUs.
     
    NEVER buy any brand name PSU that fails to have the ability to accept 115-240 VAC or a voltage selector because you are buying JUNK!!
     
    My system uses dual 2000W PSUs (240VAC/30Amp outlet) that I built myself  because my system requires that much power.
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/06 17:37:34 (permalink)
    yep.   

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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/08 12:15:24 (permalink)
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    What do you mean by this? Most computer PSUs in the USA are 120V and you can't usually use 220 on them.

    Dead WRONG! Unless you are a licensed electrician, don't offer electrical advice because you are offering BAD advice.
     
    I've been running my successful computer business for 45+ years with 7500+ clients & I have been a licensed electrician since '73 & NOT one PSU I have come across or utilized in 50 years comes without a voltage switch near the mains power receptacle (115/230). Only INFERIOR or JUNK PSUs lack the voltage selector or ability to accept 115-240 VAC. Even the laptop power blocks accept 90-240VAC & have for several decades because they are universal & can be used ANYWHERE on this planet, same for PSUs.
     
    NEVER buy any brand name PSU that fails to have the ability to accept 115-240 VAC or a voltage selector because you are buying JUNK!!
     
    My system uses dual 2000W PSUs (240VAC/30Amp outlet) that I built myself  because my system requires that much power.



    Sounds like you need to show off your PC, in Mods rigs or something. 
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/08 12:25:41 (permalink)
    I suggest that you educate yourself & check the EVGA  site for their PSUs or any other company & check out their INPUT voltage parameters & you WILL see that they ALL accept 115-240 VAC for input voltage. It has been this way for several decades & they auto adjust to input voltage & yes, you can use 240VAC on EVGA or any other brand name PSU safely & reliably.
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/08 12:33:05 (permalink)
    AnnabellaRenee87Well I feel dumb lol, after researching what 220 is in the US if feel so dumb.
    US uses split-phase electric power
     
    AnnabellaRenee87Always thought that items where wired positive, natural, grount.
    it calls hot, neutral and ground. For 220V-240V wires slightly different: hot, hot and ground. But those hot wires are different: it out of phase. It mean when one hot wire has +120V to ground, another hot wire has -120V to ground. So +120 and -120 gives 240V difference.
     
    I have an 240V outlet on my kitchen. It was NEMA 6-20 originally, but I replaced it to Schuko.

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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/27 21:40:01 (permalink)
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    What do you mean by this? Most computer PSUs in the USA are 120V and you can't usually use 220 on them.

    Dead WRONG! Unless you are a licensed electrician, don't offer electrical advice because you are offering BAD advice.
     
    I've been running my successful computer business for 45+ years with 7500+ clients & I have been a licensed electrician since '73 & NOT one PSU I have come across or utilized in 50 years comes without a voltage switch near the mains power receptacle (115/230). Only INFERIOR or JUNK PSUs lack the voltage selector or ability to accept 115-240 VAC. Even the laptop power blocks accept 90-240VAC & have for several decades because they are universal & can be used ANYWHERE on this planet, same for PSUs.
     
    NEVER buy any brand name PSU that fails to have the ability to accept 115-240 VAC or a voltage selector because you are buying JUNK!!
     
    My system uses dual 2000W PSUs (240VAC/30Amp outlet) that I built myself  because my system requires that much power.



    I think your attitude and shouting is entirely uncalled for, but I'm really curious why you'd run your computers of 220 volt power?  Just why?  Sounds like complexity for the sake of complexity to me.
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/28 04:42:37 (permalink)
    I need the 240VAC/30Amp outlet because of my system. It needs it.
     
    My system uses dual 2000W PSU's (240VAC/30Amp outlet) that I built myself & you'll see why.
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    Re:Re-doing computer room need wiring advice. 2021/04/28 04:53:35 (permalink)
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    What do you mean by this? Most computer PSUs in the USA are 120V and you can't usually use 220 on them.

    Dead WRONG! Unless you are a licensed electrician, don't offer electrical advice because you are offering BAD advice.
     
    I've been running my successful computer business for 45+ years with 7500+ clients & I have been a licensed electrician since '73 & NOT one PSU I have come across or utilized in 50 years comes without a voltage switch near the mains power receptacle (115/230). Only INFERIOR or JUNK PSUs lack the voltage selector or ability to accept 115-240 VAC. Even the laptop power blocks accept 90-240VAC & have for several decades because they are universal & can be used ANYWHERE on this planet, same for PSUs.
     
    NEVER buy any brand name PSU that fails to have the ability to accept 115-240 VAC or a voltage selector because you are buying JUNK!!
     
    My system uses dual 2000W PSUs (240VAC/30Amp outlet) that I built myself  because my system requires that much power.



    I think your attitude and shouting is entirely uncalled for, but I'm really curious why you'd run your computers of 220 volt power?  Just why?  Sounds like complexity for the sake of complexity to me.




    I don't agree.....
     
    1) Electricity is nothing to screw with.....reinforcing that with his commentary is called for, imo.
    2) He's also correct about PSU's ....seems most people buy the 100 dollar special at walmart rather than invest in a VITAL component of your computer.....
     
     

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