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2023/01/09 00:03:06 (permalink)
https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-afterburner-software-without-msi-support-project-is-probably-dead
 
The most popular overclocking tool for modern graphics cards is facing licensing problems due to ongoing war in Ukraine. Due to sanctions, companies such as MSI are unable to perform their obligations under the agreement signed with the developer. Alexey, who is based in Russia is now continuing the project without MSI’s support. The developer confirmed that the project has been dead for over 11 months now. Current political situation, as he explains, is preventing MSI from performing their obligations. The project is now only supported by Alexey during his spare time.
 
MSI Afterburner is one of the most popular tools for discrete GPU overclocking. The software is a spiritual successor to RivaTuner softare, which has been used for GPU overclocking many years ago. Users may find it problematic to find an alternative that supports all many GPU vendors natively. Most brands now include their own monitoring and simple overclocking software that also controls the GPU functionality such as lighting control or fan speeds. MSI also has such tool called MSI Center. What is worth mentioning is that MSI is still officially listing the software for newly released GPUs, including RTX 4070 Ti. The popularity of the software means that scammers are trying to take advantage of it by releasing cloned apps with malware. MSI is well aware of this fact and continues to mention the official source for the software is still MSI’s own website.
 
The only good news is that RTSS (RivaTuner Statistic Server) is not an MSI tool, therefore it is not affected by sanctions. This statistics and overlay software has full support from Alexey and will continue to be supported as it was. That said, the 3rd party software that uses RTSS should not be impacted. Alexey confirms that he will continue to support the Afterburner project during his free time, but this is not the full support that many of us would prefer. What is important to note is that the sanctions may not be limited to financial compensation but also access to prerelease hardware, essentially stagnating the development process or preventing it altogether.
 
The Russian sanctions have resulted in failed support for the project. 
 


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Re: MSI Afterburner software without MSI support, “project is probably dead” 2023/01/09 07:58:50 (permalink)
Time to start testing out other GPU control software for use in the future.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: MSI Afterburner software without MSI support, “project is probably dead” 2023/01/13 02:26:00 (permalink)
The RivaTuner core is at the heart of several projects. This issue is not a problem, but an opportunity. RJ, if you have any pull at EVGA marketing, my suggestion is to talk with those guys and see if they can have EVGA recommit publicly to the RivaTuner core project through EVGA's use in the Precision X1 product. My guess is that it's not a lot of money that is being spent on it for the visibility it gets EVGA. EVGA has a chance to be the brand ambassador for RivaTuner products unencumbered of MSI by just renegotiating the contract with Unwinder. Why it makes sense is EVGA is known for it's overclocking and RivaTuner is at the core of all GPU overclocking. EVGA being unencumbered by Nvidia now is actually a reason for them to make this move to maintain visibility and control over a major aspect of PC enthusiast tools.
 
TL;DR: EVGA is branded as an ambassador to the PC enthusiast. Them showing publicly that they still control an aspect of PC tuning while not being beholden to Nvidia anymore would be a marketing positive for the cost of a single negotiated contract for software development being maintained. Recommit to Unwinder publicly and market it through social media. I think it would be a coup for EVGA's reputation and wouldn't cost them much of anything to do so. Have the usual social media personalities on places like YouTube be the same avenue to inform the community (such as the recent JTC video I watched about it)
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Re: MSI Afterburner software without MSI support, “project is probably dead” 2023/01/13 21:18:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2023/01/13 23:14:05
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The RivaTuner core is at the heart of several projects. This issue is not a problem, but an opportunity. RJ, if you have any pull at EVGA marketing, my suggestion is to talk with those guys and see if they can have EVGA recommit publicly to the RivaTuner core project through EVGA's use in the Precision X1 product. My guess is that it's not a lot of money that is being spent on it for the visibility it gets EVGA. EVGA has a chance to be the brand ambassador for RivaTuner products unencumbered of MSI by just renegotiating the contract with Unwinder. Why it makes sense is EVGA is known for it's overclocking and RivaTuner is at the core of all GPU overclocking. EVGA being unencumbered by Nvidia now is actually a reason for them to make this move to maintain visibility and control over a major aspect of PC enthusiast tools.
 
TL;DR: EVGA is branded as an ambassador to the PC enthusiast. Them showing publicly that they still control an aspect of PC tuning while not being beholden to Nvidia anymore would be a marketing positive for the cost of a single negotiated contract for software development being maintained. Recommit to Unwinder publicly and market it through social media. I think it would be a coup for EVGA's reputation and wouldn't cost them much of anything to do so. Have the usual social media personalities on places like YouTube be the same avenue to inform the community (such as the recent JTC video I watched about it)




You're forgetting there was a big blowup back in 2014 when EVGA and Unwinder parted ways. Here was EVGA's response to the controversy at the time:
 
First, we value the relationship that we have with RivaTuner Alex/Unwinder since Feb.13th, 2008. With EVGA and Alex/Unwinder mutual efforts, Precision has become a very popular overclocking utility since it launched. Afterburner’s first release was in Oct. 2009.

It was originally EVGA’s idea to provide the world’s first “simple” overclocking GUI designed for NVIDIA cards that utilizes some of the Rivatuner technology for free. Due to some misinformation floating around about EVGA Precision recently, we would like to clarify several points. Also, EVGA wouldn’t have any interest to develop our own version if Alex/Unwinder had showed his interest back then like we’ve seen today!

1. The EVGA Precision main GUI (main Window) and format was fully designed and owned by EVGA, that means Alex/Unwinder did not design the Precision GUI at all. The Rivatuner technology was used for the backend like GPU reporting, OSD and overclocking. Other features like voltage tuning, pixel clock control and Bluetooth function were coded by EVGA. We want it to be clear that Rivatuner source code has never been released to EVGA. A year and half after Precision was introduced, Afterburner was released, that shared a lot of the same ideas and concepts originally set by EVGA’s Precision, and also used Rivatuner technology.
2. Most gamers knew that some of the key features that have been requested and missed such as 64bit OSD, voltage control and video recording in the early versions of Precision, yet Afterburner had it. You probably don’t know that some of those ideas were initiated and requested to Alex/Unwinder by EVGA to implement into Precision well before it was available in Afterburner, but Alex/Unwinder had no intention to add it. One year later they showed up in Afterburner exclusively without any notification and/or offer to EVGA. We felt that we became Alex/Unwinder and Afterburner’s free consultant if we continue this route.

We like Precision, the interface and the features, just like most of the gamers in the community, but under these circumstances, it became clear that in order to provide more features that are requested by the community, we needed to recode the back end from the ground up, using our own existing Precision skin designed as merely inspiration, that is why today we have the new EVGA PrecisionX 15. In the latest PrecisionX 15 we have put in some features like 64bit OSD support, Steam achievements and more. We want to make it clear that EVGA PrecisionX 15 is 100% coded in house without using any code from the older Precision due to we don’t have the source code since day one!

EVGA will continue adding features to support the community on PrecisionX15 for free as usual, and hope to inspire other overclocking utilities to be better for the entire gaming community.

The bottom line is that EVGA doesn’t want any third party to dictate what features the community should or should not have!

EVGA


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