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2022/10/24 06:17:29 (permalink)
Upgraded my rig today. I need to tidy up the cables still. 
 

 

 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 07:58:55 (permalink)
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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 08:16:42 (permalink)
    Very nice, might I suggest you order one of these for your PSU if you're still using the Corsair 1000w unit?
    https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284
     
    That'll go miles in helping tame the spaghetti monster that the adapter creates. It'll also give you the ability to increase your power limit on the card as well as use alternate BIOS with higher power limits to play around with. I use the "silent" BIOS as my tinker BIOS and have just settled on using the BIOS from the MSI Suprim X. It gives the card a native 480w target and lets you increase it to 520w via the slider if you wish. 
     
    This is the BIOS here if you're interested:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/249756/msi-rtx4090-24576-220920-3
     
    I tried some of the 600w BIOS like the Gigabyte Gaming OC or the ASUS Strix versions and saw really no increase in performance as the card just can't really get much past 3Ghz core regardless of power limit on the stock cooler. With the MSI Suprim X BIOS the card will run 3015-3045Mhz if you set the core offset to +180. Though for daily gaming I leave the power slider at 100% (480w on this BIOS) and just use a +100 offset which nets me a boost clock of 2850Mhz in games and power draw stays in the 400-450w range depending on the game. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 09:38:34 (permalink)
    CraptacularOne
    Very nice, might I suggest you order one of these for your PSU if you're still using the Corsair 1000w unit?
    https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284
     
    That'll go miles in helping tame the spaghetti monster that the adapter creates. It'll also give you the ability to increase your power limit on the card as well as use alternate BIOS with higher power limits to play around with. I use the "silent" BIOS as my tinker BIOS and have just settled on using the BIOS from the MSI Suprim X. It gives the card a native 480w target and lets you increase it to 520w via the slider if you wish. 
     
    This is the BIOS here if you're interested:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/249756/msi-rtx4090-24576-220920-3
     
    I tried some of the 600w BIOS like the Gigabyte Gaming OC or the ASUS Strix versions and saw really no increase in performance as the card just can't really get much past 3Ghz core regardless of power limit on the stock cooler. With the MSI Suprim X BIOS the card will run 3015-3045Mhz if you set the core offset to +180. Though for daily gaming I leave the power slider at 100% (480w on this BIOS) and just use a +100 offset which nets me a boost clock of 2850Mhz in games and power draw stays in the 400-450w range depending on the game. 


    I saw your scores for your system and mine are much lower. I need to figure out what's going on. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 10:12:51 (permalink)
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    Very nice, might I suggest you order one of these for your PSU if you're still using the Corsair 1000w unit?
    https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-%7C-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284
     
    That'll go miles in helping tame the spaghetti monster that the adapter creates. It'll also give you the ability to increase your power limit on the card as well as use alternate BIOS with higher power limits to play around with. I use the "silent" BIOS as my tinker BIOS and have just settled on using the BIOS from the MSI Suprim X. It gives the card a native 480w target and lets you increase it to 520w via the slider if you wish. 
     
    This is the BIOS here if you're interested:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/249756/msi-rtx4090-24576-220920-3
     
    I tried some of the 600w BIOS like the Gigabyte Gaming OC or the ASUS Strix versions and saw really no increase in performance as the card just can't really get much past 3Ghz core regardless of power limit on the stock cooler. With the MSI Suprim X BIOS the card will run 3015-3045Mhz if you set the core offset to +180. Though for daily gaming I leave the power slider at 100% (480w on this BIOS) and just use a +100 offset which nets me a boost clock of 2850Mhz in games and power draw stays in the 400-450w range depending on the game. 


    I saw your scores for your system and mine are much lower. I need to figure out what's going on. 


    Go into windows security and turn VBS status to off aka memory integrity. That is probably part of what is doing it and it will hold back your scores.

    post edited by donta1979 - 2022/10/24 10:16:49

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 11:31:34 (permalink)
    That seemed to be the cause. Scores are much higher now. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 11:50:40 (permalink)
    I thought everyone knew to turn that off as a baseline . Now that you've got that sorted try leaning on the GPU a little bit and add some clock speed or maybe a new BIOS. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 12:01:17 (permalink)
    CraptacularOne
    I thought everyone knew to turn that off as a baseline . Now that you've got that sorted try leaning on the GPU a little bit and add some clock speed or maybe a new BIOS. 


    I'm very happy with the way things are right now. However I might consider some slight overclocking at a later time. Now I would like to see how this new 'toy' does in real gaming. 
    post edited by rjohnson11 - 2022/10/24 12:18:23

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 12:39:22 (permalink)
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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 15:32:32 (permalink)
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    CraptacularOne
    I thought everyone knew to turn that off as a baseline . Now that you've got that sorted try leaning on the GPU a little bit and add some clock speed or maybe a new BIOS. 


    I'm very happy with the way things are right now. However I might consider some slight overclocking at a later time. Now I would like to see how this new 'toy' does in real gaming. 

    Enjoy you’ll see it’s quite the capable gaming card.

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/24 18:52:25 (permalink)
    Nice upgrade 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/25 08:54:42 (permalink)
    @donta1979 great OC suggestion. It will be better to post the OCing settings in the 4000 series forum
    It will help many in achieving an OC in their rigs

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/10/28 12:50:39 (permalink)
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    I thought everyone knew to turn that off as a baseline . Now that you've got that sorted try leaning on the GPU a little bit and add some clock speed or maybe a new BIOS. 


    To be fair a lot of us didn't know about it nor thought about it. Like you can show people your benches saying something is up why is my score so low and most do not even bother to scroll down and check to say hey turn that off. Thank me afterwards. When RJ mentioned it again decided to look at his 3DMark bench link, scroll to the bottom and went ohhh turn that off. 
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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/11/01 16:01:07 (permalink)
    rj, awesome upgrade.  are you finding that you have a decent amount of OC headroom?

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/11/21 09:19:14 (permalink)
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    rj, awesome upgrade.  are you finding that you have a decent amount of OC headroom?


    I've tried some overclocking and it didn't make too much difference. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/11/21 09:21:21 (permalink)
    Over the past week I have cleaned my PC, tidied up the cables, changed out the NZXT USB hub to a Corsair USB hub. 
     


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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/11/21 09:22:20 (permalink)
    I still have a few more cables to tidy up, but the majority of the work is done. 
     

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/11/21 12:18:24 (permalink)
    Looking pretty clean now Rj 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/11/21 23:58:34 (permalink)
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    Looking pretty clean now Rj 


    I just wish the Corsair CPU cables were longer. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/12/01 16:52:42 (permalink)
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    I just wish the Corsair CPU cables were longer. 



    All their stock and sleeved cables are stiff and not long enough for large cases.  Cablemod is pricey but has nice products.

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/12/18 03:52:53 (permalink)
    The EPS cables for the Corsair HX 1000 were simply not long enough:

    So today I have replaced those cables with longer cables ordered from cable mods (notice I have run those along the right side)

     
     

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/12/18 03:54:02 (permalink)
    I am tying up more cables (with cable ties), but at least now I can shut the metal cable door cover completely. 
     

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/12/19 09:26:39 (permalink)
    Updated my modsrigs page today.

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/12/19 11:56:13 (permalink)
    Seems the Mods Rigs links are broken and just taking us to the landing page of the sub section and not to your individual profile. 

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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2022/12/19 12:17:19 (permalink)
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    Seems the Mods Rigs links are broken and just taking us to the landing page of the sub section and not to your individual profile. 


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    Re: My RTX 4090 update 2023/01/08 17:54:55 (permalink)
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    That seemed to be the cause. Scores are much higher now. 


    I did not know that either .  Checked it, and it was already set to OFF .  Better to be lucky than good 
    I also did not know about the Level Of Detail settings to get a valid 3DMark score .
    It also made my score better .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-_z9qpSPUA


    P.S.  Your cables look much better, and safer now 
     
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