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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 14:34:52
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I'll be honest, that video is a slight exaggeration on the 4090 size. Yes the FE version is big but it's a manageable size. It's the AIB cards that are going overboard on the cooling systems. I've seen the Gigabyte model and it's just as stupidly oversized as the ASUS model. In a age where coolant manufacturers have been able to design systems that can cool powerful hardware like laptops and consoles with a much smaller cooler footprint it makes what these AIBs are doing look so stupid.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 14:42:40
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The extra cooling is always welcome imo. I find the size of the cards funny, and awesome at the same time.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 14:45:14
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The extra cooling is always welcome imo. I find the size of the cards funny, and awesome at the same time.
I don't doubt the extra cooling is welcomed however I feel we may start seeing AIBs really overthinking and over engineering the cooling systems for the entire 40 Series.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 14:49:32
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The extra cooling is always welcome imo. I find the size of the cards funny, and awesome at the same time.
I don't doubt the extra cooling is welcomed however I feel we may start seeing AIBs really overthinking and over engineering the cooling systems for the entire 40 Series.
Don’t see a problem with that. I run a open air test bench, so space is a non issue for me.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 14:50:46
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Nvidia 4090 FE is SMALLER than 3090.
Now, AIBs can add a car radiator but FE is what I am looking as size parameter.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 14:57:30
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Nvidia 4090 FE is SMALLER than 3090.
Now, AIBs can add a car radiator but FE is what I am looking as size parameter.
Yes & No. It’s smaller in length, but thicker in height.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 15:08:04
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Yes & No. It’s smaller in length, but thicker in height.
Well, it is shorter in length 9mm - 304mm (3090 313mm) Width is 1mm wider - 138mm (3090 137mm) In my books 9mm beat 1mm 
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 15:12:20
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Yes & No. It’s smaller in length, but thicker in height.
Well, it is shorter in length 11mm - 304mm (3090 313mm)
Width is 1mm wider - 138mm (3090 137mm)
In my books 11mm beat 1mm
According to tom’s hardware ada is 8mm shorter and 7mm thicker… https://www.tomshardware....idia-rtx-4090-unboxing
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 15:21:18
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Yes & No. It’s smaller in length, but thicker in height.
Well, it is shorter in length 11mm - 304mm (3090 313mm)
Width is 1mm wider - 138mm (3090 137mm)
In my books 11mm beat 1mm
According to tom’s hardware ada is 8mm shorter and 7mm thicker… https://www.tomshardware....idia-rtx-4090-unboxing
I see, Tom measured how high is card. Of topic steak is better if thicker 
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/06 15:33:17
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Yeah it's getting a bit ridiculous the size these things are coming too. Luckily the PCBs are still very small so slapping a block on them will make them more manageable.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/07 10:13:01
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At some point we need to see more water cooled and AIO options from the AIB's.
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Re: So you thought the 3090 ti was big? Just wait until you see the 4090.
2022/10/11 10:45:52
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Looking at the AIB models (and even the FE to some extent due to the connector and connector position), One of the biggest issues I see for air cooled variants is that you can't fit it in any normal case and fit your side panel on. They stick up 1-4 inches past the PCIe brackets...then have connectors facing the glass/side panel. Then you often have that adapter which you can't just kink 90°. Even if you can fit the length in your case, I don't see most cases fitting the side panel on. Maybe this is the plan all along considering most closed cases struggle with a 3080's heat, let alone 3090ti or 4090 now. So they just force you to take off the side panel.
Anyway, I wouldn't consider one of these unless it either comes with a water block or a warranty that lets me put one on...and I don't know any other vendors than the one that just left the game...that allow you to do that.
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