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EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti!

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2021/07/26 11:24:59 (permalink)
I purchased my 1080Ti in September 2018 for the total sum, including VAT of £657.78. I just had an advanced RMA authorisation because it's faulty and EVGA want EUR 1369.82 as a collateral payment to ship out a replacement 1080Ti.
 
What on god's earth are you guys smoking to want that? I mean, you don't give any indication of the collateral amount you're going to ask for before the customer makes a decision about whether they want to go for a standard RMA or an advanced one, but who in their right mind would expect it to be so much?
 
For perspective, you want essentially double what I paid for the product brand new in 2018 to send me a used / refurbed unit 3 years later? For that kind of money I could pick up a 3080 or a 3080Ti when things start getting back to RRP. How does EVGA justify setting such an absurdly high collateral? You can't get EUR1400 for a used 1080Ti on the open market, so we're not talking fair market value here. I would love to know what the justification is. That collateral is nothing short of ridiculous.
 
I was waiting for the authorisation email to come through to me from Friday last week and I thought the collateral might be a couple hundred euro. My eyes nearly popped out on stalks when I saw 1400. That is so messed up and really disappointing. I'm still shocked by it. Heaven forbid I wanted to advance RMA a 3080Ti, what figure would be plucked from the ether for one of those? 4 grand maybe? Bonkers.
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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2021/07/26 12:35:34 (permalink)
    They doubled the amount of collateral recently due to the system being abused.


     
       
     
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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2021/07/26 12:40:19 (permalink)
    That's correct because of some bad Apples in the bunch.

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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2021/07/26 13:34:53 (permalink)
    I can understand that EVGA want to discourage people abusing the system, but by simply doubling the collateral the effect is that they will turn off legitimate customers like me from using the advanced RMA service. I would posit that most people simply don't have that kind of money to blow on a collateral payment, even if the sum is returned on receipt of the faulty item.
     
    I'm not being funny here but we're talking about a 1080Ti - a 3 year old GPU that is discontinued. It would be questionable to charge 2018 RRP as collateral for this, because the product that EVGA ship out to the customer as part of the RMA does not have an inherent worth of RRP in that it is out of date hardware and not a new product they are shipping to me. So to expect double as a holding deposit is ridiculous. Even if people abuse the system, EVGA's risk / stake in the product they send out is nowhere near EUR1400. Nor would it be anywhere near EUR700. It didn't cost EVGA what I paid originally for the product brand new because they have to make a profit on it. Therefore any warranty SKUs left over have sunk cost and would cost them no more to keep than it would have to originally manufacture them. Remember that back in 2018 when my card was manufactured, the world was a different place and costs were different. Just because the market is how it is now, doesn't retroactively apply to a product that has not been manufactured for a couple of years. It's been held as a warranty stock keeping unit for you guessed it... warranty replacements!
     
    Asking for EUR1400 for something that has a tech market value of about EUR350 is not on. It makes a mockery of the whole thing because who has got a spare EUR1400 they can simply blow on getting a quick turnaround on a warranty replacement? This is the real world. They may as well just get rid of the advanced RMA. It's wasted my time because now I've had to create a further support ticket to amend the advanced RMA to a standard RMA. I could have avoided this completely if I had been aware of even a rough estimate of what the collateral would be. But they don't give you that information until you've requested the RMA - by which point it is too late. In this way, the customer is unable to make an informed decision because pertinent facts (cost) are withheld from them until after they've made the choice.
     
    So that is no excuse. It is stupid and has wasted my time.
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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2021/07/26 15:01:32 (permalink)
    Advanced RMA’s are no longer an option for new customers, because Old customers were severely abusing the advanced RMA system. Yes, it is frustrating, but the fault fully lies on those that caused the problem.
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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2022/10/06 05:38:49 (permalink)
    Syphadeus
     I'm still shocked by it. Heaven forbid I wanted to advance RMA a 3080Ti, what figure would be plucked from the ether for one of those? 4 grand maybe? Bonkers.




    Meanwhile i can tell you what they want. As my 3080 Ti XC3 was broken after three months I requested a advance RMA these days and the amount is exactly 2.692,78 EUR... 
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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2022/10/06 07:54:10 (permalink)
    If you do a standard RMA, you don't need to pay any collateral.
    Not to sound harsh, but it seems odd to complain about something you choose to do. Other options are available.
    If you choose the option that is most convenient for you, you are going to have to pay extra. It's not EVGA's fault that scammers ruined it for everyone.
    2.692,78 EUR is not what EVGA values the card at. 2.692,78 EUR is what EVGA is charging as a purposely ridiculous price to assure that you won't exploit the system in order to scalp cards.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2022/10/06 10:04:31

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    Re: EUR1400 collateral for a RMA 1080Ti! 2022/10/06 20:52:48 (permalink)
    Also why are you necro'ing a year old thread to complain about something you did to yourself?

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