btodd1
Andrew? Sir?  If you are listening; (Reading) (And forum friends!) Please do your best to keep making video cards for us! I am a long time fan and customer and have purchased 100% EVGA video cards for many many years, as well as some other EVGA accessories and hope to for years to come! YOUR TECH SUPPORT IS TOP NOTCH! There is no company like yours! I plan on getting a new PS and some other EVGA branded items to round out my build. Just Got an older EVGA DG 8 series case, it's shipping now!
 
Thanks, Bret :)

yaymz

Delirious
 
I don't think it was a catalyst as much as the way NVIDIA acted in association with EVGA.  It was just an added reason and not in and of itself. 

I can accept this.  As I mentioned, I thought it was a poor excuse (or added reason).
 

Delirious
Not every business owner wants to sell out their business to someone else that will take it into a direction that He may not want it to look like.   The GN video mentioned he didn't want this.  

And that is why retiring Owner/CEO's take board seats.  He would retain full ownership along with 100% voting rights (assuming there are no other partners).  The new President or CEO would still have to answer to him.  This is how you get to spend more time with your family while still controlling your business and staying out of the day-to-day operations.  <- In short, this just puts wanting to spend more time with family excuse to bed, but only adds to more confusion of why would he even mention this in the first place?

namcost
I actually came here to say it, but its already been said. There is no "exclusivity contract" between Nvidia and EVGA. EVGA from what I remember back in the day stated that it was TOO EXPENSIVE to start up making AMD cards due to their entire group/workforce focusing on Nvidia. The new tool lines, the money spent, they said it wasn't worth it. BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, AMD wasn't competing. AMD was losing to Nvidia generation after generation at this point. And there was no end in sight. Even the CPU side was losing vs Intel over and over again. NOW AMD has been pushing forward both cpu and gpu, to the point that the 6900xt is on parity with raw render vs 3090 in a multi game benchmark (win some games, lose some games, tie some games) and AMD is kicking ass catching up to Intel and even soon surpassing them. AMD is no longer a chump. So it WOULD be worth it to start making AMD products. EVGA already made X570 boards proving that fact when they had zero mentality to do so 10 even 5 years ago.

I want an EVGA x670e DARK motherboard and an EVGA 7900xt Kingpin graphics card. That would be killer.... I would buy both no questions asked as soon as they were available.. Maybe I am just an EVGA fanboy, but they always had the highest quality of any other brand when it came to GPU's (can't talk about their Intel motherboards because I have always been using AMD cpu's since the Athlon X2 days). Honestly EVGA should just forget about Nvidia. With Intel or the horizon it would be best to support Intel/AMD for the long run. Everyone LOVES to bring up that Nvidia can't make x86-64 cpu's because intel owns x86 and AMD owns x64. With their contract between them, they can compete. Which leaves Nvidia unable to make x86-64 (as its so claimed). With that in mind, it cold be possible for AMD/Intel to end up having more cross contracts that help their gpu side boost forward as well.... meaning eventually Intel/AMD are going to be the kings of gpu's too, leaving Nvidia to stick to with AI and other non gamer things. I called that years ago and it seems like the direction its going. Even Nvidia's new 4000 series, the performance gain isn't there, its all "thanks to DLSS3.0" which I guarantee will look like **** just like DLSS2.0 looks like ****. I have tried DLSS2.0 on my 3090 and it looks like a blurry, artifact ridden mess. Sure stand, still, nothing on screen moving, basically a picture, it gets really sharp. The moment you ACTUALLY play the game, it looks horrible. Maybe if people need reading glasses they are already blind so they can't see how bad it looks? But I do.... and I prefer raw sharp rendering.... Intel/AMD is the future. Nvidia will be gone in 10 years maybe less from the gaming market.

Nereus
 
^ remember, revenues is not the same as profits. From what I have seen in the videos from Steve @ GN and JayZTwoCents, the profits from GPUs was around 50% of their total profits, despite it being 80% of their revenue. Still a big hit to their bottom line, but not an 80% hit, and expenses will also dramatically decrease as a result, so really their bottom line will still be pretty good.
 

Cool GTX

Nereus
 
^ remember, revenues is not the same as profits. From what I have seen in the videos from Steve @ GN and JayZTwoCents, the profits from GPUs was around 50% of their total profits, despite it being 80% of their revenue. Still a big hit to their bottom line, but not an 80% hit, and expenses will also dramatically decrease as a result, so really their bottom line will still be pretty good.
 

GPU Net Profits was stated @ Only  3%

B0baganoosh

dragomirc

Delirious
 Andrew Han wants to spend more time with family.   Things between EVGA and NVIDIA aren't changing before Christmas.  

That is the most arrogant, selfish, and unacceptable, announcement I ever heard.
CEO is (over)paid to spend his time benefiting corporation in general: including assets, workers, shareholders etc.
CEO role is 100% dedication to the job-related activities, as so many people depend on his decisions, effectives, foreseeing chances and troubles etc.
Retirement is the right way to spend more time with family.
 
I am furious that EVGA won't have 4k GPU as it seems those new cards will be quite better and cheaper than 3k cards.
Lovelace architecture, which uses a custom TSMC 4nm process node should scream performance wise.
 
Will try to get FE 4080 16GB 

Uhh...maybe for a publicly traded company. EVGA is not that. CEO is also the owner. It's his business. He can do as he pleases. If he thinks this decision is best for him, his family, and his staff (or any combination of the three), it's his choice to make.

B0baganoosh

kongfra

B0baganoosh

dragomirc

Delirious
 Andrew Han wants to spend more time with family.   Things between EVGA and NVIDIA aren't changing before Christmas.  

That is the most arrogant, selfish, and unacceptable, announcement I ever heard.
CEO is (over)paid to spend his time benefiting corporation in general: including assets, workers, shareholders etc.
CEO role is 100% dedication to the job-related activities, as so many people depend on his decisions, effectives, foreseeing chances and troubles etc.
Retirement is the right way to spend more time with family.
 
I am furious that EVGA won't have 4k GPU as it seems those new cards will be quite better and cheaper than 3k cards.
Lovelace architecture, which uses a custom TSMC 4nm process node should scream performance wise.
 
Will try to get FE 4080 16GB 

Uhh...maybe for a publicly traded company. EVGA is not that. CEO is also the owner. It's his business. He can do as he pleases. If he thinks this decision is best for him, his family, and his staff (or any combination of the three), it's his choice to make.

 
how can it be a good decision for the staff?  the writing is on the wall if I was working there I would be looking for a job right now if they have not started already

I didn't say it was. I just said that would be a reason to consider it. Not really knowing the full story, just what has been told to Jay and Steve for making public, I don't really know the full context and wouldn't be able to say it was good for anybody. Personally, it sounds more like picking someone to vote for come election time when you just have to begrudgingly pick between the least bad of two utter crap-sandwiches. I don't suspect they really know what the future holds for them yet, but it sounds like assurances have been made to the staff we interact with. I would think the likes of Kingpin and all the graphics card manufacturing staff wouldn't be so sure what's going to happen going forward.
 
Jay was telling a story before all this came out about how he had talked to Andrew Han about their motherboards not being very good at one point, then getting much better suddenly and when asked why Andrew said "I fired everybody". He seemed to not be very moved or bothered by just taking a clean start, so no, I don't think his primary motivations are ever the whole of the staff (maybe some?...not everyone). So if he finally hit a wall where he was just completely done with Nvidia, the "easy" thing for him to do (which he said to Jay and Steve at their private meeting) was to cut ties with Nvidia and just be done with that. The not so easy thing is figuring out what comes next. Publicly they've made it clear they're going to keep supporting current products. Privately, I imagine they'll weigh many options and try to decide if any of them meet a new metric of "worth the headache" that Andrew decides what passes or fails the metric.
 
I've been trying to think about his perspective on this from the way he answered Steve's questions during the meeting. He's not retiring yet, but he doesn't want to sell the business and he doesn't want to keep doing the thing that's making him miserable. It sounds a lot like he feels the company has thus far been honorable and he values the company legacy too much to risk selling it to someone who might ruin that. There was some indication that at a future date he may be interested in letting some people from within the company take over, but not yet. That is very much like the "family business" mindset of "it dies with me or it will be continued by someone who I trust to do the right things with it". So even if the company shrinks and does less business, but it is still business he feels proud of or that properly represents the brand he's been responsible for, it sounds like he'd be more happy with that than to keep getting ran into the ground by Nvidia. All this said, I think if the right offer came along (with certain freedoms) from Intel or AMD, he'd consider it. I don't personally believe it'll happen this year/gen.