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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/09 10:52:57 (permalink)
A die flying on z690 dark w 2.00 bios

https://hwbot.org/submiss..._ddr5_sdram_4222.1_mhz

Unfortunately the bios is just not ready for prime time with alder lake. Hopefully they sort this otherwise it will be raptor lake only for a die on dark z690…
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/09 11:22:41 (permalink)
its not out yet, but according to gskill should arrive this month 
https://www.gskill.com/co...ent-Z5-RGB-Memory-Kits
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/09 11:26:47 (permalink)
prob be available around raptor lake launch
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/09 12:56:10 (permalink)
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its not out yet, but according to gskill should arrive this month 
https://www.gskill.com/co...ent-Z5-RGB-Memory-Kits


ty!
 
i made a folder named "DDR5-6800 CL32 2x16GB Trident Z5 RGB Memory Kits" and saved ^^ URL u provided in it.
 
i left 'kits' in the name of my folder, as a way to remind myself later on to create Folders named after the actual Model Numbers when they come out. Based on the ^^ (9-22-'22) g.skill announcement; they should be out this month.
 
they do have 6600MHz g.skill at NE for just $309. but i bet it doesn't stack-up to the new stuff.
 
ty again!
 
and like i guestimated earlier, it should be less than $1,000 to upgrade my RAM and CPU. and running currently @1440p; i can easily get the same FPS as a 4k LCD with a 4090; with my current 3090 and 1440p LCD.
 
unfortunately i have my eye on an Alienware AW3423DW. TomsHardware and LinusTech. and it would require an RTX4090. i'd better dream-on when it comes to getting both a 4090 and an QD-OLED. 
 
 
 
 
post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/10/09 12:57:23

> PSU: Seasonic VERTEX GX-1200
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
> AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
> Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
> Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
> Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
> Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
> Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
> DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
 
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/10 02:05:53 (permalink)
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babayega
its not out yet, but according to gskill should arrive this month 
https://www.gskill.com/co...ent-Z5-RGB-Memory-Kits


ty!
 
i made a folder named "DDR5-6800 CL32 2x16GB Trident Z5 RGB Memory Kits" and saved ^^ URL u provided in it.
 
i left 'kits' in the name of my folder, as a way to remind myself later on to create Folders named after the actual Model Numbers when they come out. Based on the ^^ (9-22-'22) g.skill announcement; they should be out this month.
 
they do have 6600MHz g.skill at NE for just $309. but i bet it doesn't stack-up to the new stuff.
 
ty again!
 
and like i guestimated earlier, it should be less than $1,000 to upgrade my RAM and CPU. and running currently @1440p; i can easily get the same FPS as a 4k LCD with a 4090; with my current 3090 and 1440p LCD.
 
unfortunately i have my eye on an Alienware AW3423DW. TomsHardware and LinusTech. and it would require an RTX4090. i'd better dream-on when it comes to getting both a 4090 and an QD-OLED. 
 
 
 
 


dont underestimate the 6600kit. MDIE has its strength and weakness, same goes for ADIE. ADIE isnt better in everything over MDIE. and since it seems u are running high rez , there is no point getting a 13900k .. 12900k will do the job just fine, just get 6600 kits, its pretty cheap now, and get a 4090 when u can . 
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/11 14:58:30 (permalink)
My Z690 Dark is constantly getting off on time. I doubt a brand new board has a bad CMOS battery, is there something else that can cause this issue or is it a bad board?

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/11 20:04:11 (permalink)
EVGA's x299 DARK's had the same issue with CMOS batteries being dead, wouldn't shock me its happening again.

13900KS on Z690 Dark KP
FE 4090
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/12 15:51:41 (permalink)
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What's with the new RAM speed support of up to 7200 on 4 DIMM boards? Is that due to BIOS magic or Raptor Lake IMC improvements? My Z690 Classified 1.15 BIOS has a literal hard lock at the 6200MT (3100Mhz) mark. As in, base clock goes up 1 tick (6199.5MT to 6200MT) and it's instability bonanza. Tempted to try this 2.0 beta BIOS regardless to find out.

 
Z690 classified working stable with 6400 and max boot is 6667(Hynix-M/Samsung-B). This board behaves the same as Z690 Carbon/Force, but can do better with Samsung
Loosing only to Z690-F Strix which is capable 6800 stable

post edited by rulik006 - 2022/10/12 15:55:06
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/12 23:15:47 (permalink)
Fun to oc with EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N now oc in Command rate 1T mode
7400 CL32-44-44-48 Command rate 1T
 
i think this mainboard is king of OC 1T RAM 
 
Now I'm waiting for new bios, update as soon as possible.
 

 
post edited by pharitthanun - 2022/10/17 16:02:35

> PSU: CORSAIR AX1600i
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N beta bios 2.0
> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K
> cooling: Custom water loop
> Physical Memory: DDR5 32GB bus5600 Green PCB A die hynix (OC: 7800 CL32)
Physical Memory Model :SK-hynix HMCG78MEBUA081N
> Video Card: Asrock 6900xt formula
> Case: PC Case Test Bench by PN (Thailand)


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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/14 08:19:46 (permalink)
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Fun to oc with EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N now oc in Command rate 1T mode
7400 CL32-44-44-48 Command rate 1T
 
i think this mainboard is king of OC 1T RAM 




very nice! how much sa, vdd, vddq for the 1T? keep pushing! thanks for sharing
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/14 12:06:57 (permalink)
yeah, would love to see your settings!
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/14 20:32:02 (permalink)
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very nice! how much sa, vdd, vddq for the 1T? keep pushing! thanks for sharing




 
cpu vdd2/vddq i set about 1.4-1.5 both (depends on how much frequency I play).
And my technique is to use PLL voltage to help .
For CPU SA voltege. You have to find out how much your CPU likes this voltage. Because each CPU will like this voltage differently. (This voltage depends on the silicon lottery CPU.)
My CPU likes SA voltage of 1.25-1.28. (My friend's CPU like 1.4-1.45 )

> PSU: CORSAIR AX1600i
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N beta bios 2.0
> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K
> cooling: Custom water loop
> Physical Memory: DDR5 32GB bus5600 Green PCB A die hynix (OC: 7800 CL32)
Physical Memory Model :SK-hynix HMCG78MEBUA081N
> Video Card: Asrock 6900xt formula
> Case: PC Case Test Bench by PN (Thailand)


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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/14 20:33:41 (permalink)
Do you have a fan on your dimms? Curious if at these voltages it's needed
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/14 20:39:27 (permalink)
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Do you have a fan on your dimms? Curious if at these voltages it's needed

I change and use waterblock and fan to help when use stability test programs 


> PSU: CORSAIR AX1600i
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N beta bios 2.0
> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K
> cooling: Custom water loop
> Physical Memory: DDR5 32GB bus5600 Green PCB A die hynix (OC: 7800 CL32)
Physical Memory Model :SK-hynix HMCG78MEBUA081N
> Video Card: Asrock 6900xt formula
> Case: PC Case Test Bench by PN (Thailand)


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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/15 14:13:02 (permalink)
Pharitthanun,
 
Sup?
 
luv that setup, u Guru!!!
 
CPU Package temp in the last pic is only 5c?
 
wat CPU Package Min, Max, and Ave temps typically; after stress testing ur CPU? 
 
ty
 
 

> PSU: Seasonic VERTEX GX-1200
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
> AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
> Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
> Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
> Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
> Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
> Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
> DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
 
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/15 19:52:20 (permalink)
Bee_Dee_3_Dee
Pharitthanun,
 
Sup?
 
luv that setup, u Guru!!!
 
CPU Package temp in the last pic is only 5c?
 
wat CPU Package Min, Max, and Ave temps typically; after stress testing ur CPU? 
 
ty
 
 




thank bro.
It was a mistake when taking a photo. because the light flashes all the time
idle cpu temp in my country in the afternoon about 32-35 degrees celsius 

> PSU: CORSAIR AX1600i
> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N beta bios 2.0
> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K
> cooling: Custom water loop
> Physical Memory: DDR5 32GB bus5600 Green PCB A die hynix (OC: 7800 CL32)
Physical Memory Model :SK-hynix HMCG78MEBUA081N
> Video Card: Asrock 6900xt formula
> Case: PC Case Test Bench by PN (Thailand)


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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/16 08:06:51 (permalink)
Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/17 15:57:57 (permalink)
very nice rig and clocks, Pharitthanun

CPU:     Intel 12900K EK 1700 Quantum Mag Acetel
GPU:     EVGA 3090 KPHC
MB:      EVGA Z690 Dark
PSU:     EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P+
Memory:  G.SKILL Z5 6600mhz XMP3
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/18 05:48:11 (permalink)
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Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

I saw that somebody discovered that it is really a problem with some 12th gen processors and not the motherboard.
 
EDIT: never mind I just found it again and I think it's a different issue. Sorry.
post edited by frankd3 - 2022/10/18 05:52:19

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/18 06:17:35 (permalink)
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Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

I saw that somebody discovered that it is really a problem with some 12th gen processors and not the motherboard.
 
EDIT: never mind I just found it again and I think it's a different issue. Sorry.


No word from intel or anyone yet. Evga is silent even though they would already have the answer.

Intel claims 10000MT RAM is possible, but im guessing thats in a Z790 Dark or something else with lots of layers/better electrical design.
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/18 06:29:57 (permalink)
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Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

I saw that somebody discovered that it is really a problem with some 12th gen processors and not the motherboard.
 
EDIT: never mind I just found it again and I think it's a different issue. Sorry.


No word from intel or anyone yet. Evga is silent even though they would already have the answer.

Intel claims 10000MT RAM is possible, but im guessing thats in a Z790 Dark or something else with lots of layers/better electrical design.

So you too believe it's more likely a motherboard issue?

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/18 06:30:29 (permalink)
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Anybody tried this with the classy yet? 13900k inbound and I'm curious if I'll be able to get much over 6000 on two dimms.

I saw that somebody discovered that it is really a problem with some 12th gen processors and not the motherboard.
 
EDIT: never mind I just found it again and I think it's a different issue. Sorry.


No word from intel or anyone yet. Evga is silent even though they would already have the answer.

Intel claims 10000MT RAM is possible, but im guessing thats in a Z790 Dark or something else with lots of layers/better electrical design.



Yeah, I didn't mean to indicate confusion there, but from what information exists, it seems that the order of best to worst RAM speed would be:
13900k on z790 Dark
13900k on z690 Dark
13900k on z790 Classy
13900k on z690 classy
12900k on z690 Dark (possible this is also above the 13900k classy, but unsure)
12900k on z690 Classy
(note: these assume only 2 DIMMs are populated in the Classy boards)
 
This is because I think it is safe to assume that you may get some boost in memory performance going from 12900k to 13900k, even on z690. I think the headroom is higher on z790 possible, but I don't think the motherboards will have too much improvement on what are already good designs. In the EVGA boards, you definitely get more benefit from the 2-DIMM Dark layout than you get going from z690 to z790 on memory. So from early tests and marketing materials from Intel, it is suggested that 13900k has an improved IMC, so that means even if you put it on a z690, you may get some additional performance headroom. I wouldn't expect to push a 13900k on a z690 Classy as far as you could on a z690 Dark or z790, but I would think it's possible to improve the 6400MT advertised. 
 
All that aside, What I was actually asking about was the fact that some others seemed to indicate that they were getting improved memory performance on this beta BIOS than on previous released BIOS versions. So even though it hasn't been reported to be 100% stable with 12900k, I was curious if anybody (as some did with the Dark) just fired it up anyway and pushed their memory a bit with the z690 Classy. It seems that either nobody did, or nobody who did has read my question and/or wants to talk about it. I did tie them together because I am wondering what happens if I throw a 13900k into my z690 classy...will I get the improvements of this BIOS, plus 13900k IMC and not have the stability issues of running this BIOS with 12900k? That is the curiosity.
post edited by B0baganoosh - 2022/10/18 06:33:15

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/18 14:05:22 (permalink)
When can we expect a full Raptor Lake support BIOS? Release is in 2 days and as far as I can tell only EVGA doesn't have an official BIOS available for launch so far. 

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/18 14:29:29 (permalink)
EVGA Team should bring bios for z690 classy that improve DDR5 stabillity, because recent Gigabyte's F20b bios made possible 4dimm 8L pcb Z690 Master to maintain 6800 stable, which bring it to uniqe z690-F strix level that can do 6800 almost from the launch ( i have one)
While 10layer Z690 Classified not stable above 6400 with m-die, which is pathetic comparing to physically weaker boards
I dont want to change my EVGA board, but if support will be so slow and lame, i will have to


post edited by rulik006 - 2022/10/18 14:46:08
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/19 06:32:04 (permalink)
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When can we expect a full Raptor Lake support BIOS? Release is in 2 days and as far as I can tell only EVGA doesn't have an official BIOS available for launch so far. 




2.00 has raptor lake support. I'd guess they will make the beta an official release this week, or else we'll see 2.0x in its place in the next day or 2
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/19 16:25:16 (permalink)
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When can we expect a full Raptor Lake support BIOS? Release is in 2 days and as far as I can tell only EVGA doesn't have an official BIOS available for launch so far. 




2.00 has raptor lake support. I'd guess they will make the beta an official release this week, or else we'll see 2.0x in its place in the next day or 2




You would like to hope that EVGA could provide a full official BIOS with 13th gen support seeing as it launches tomorrow... Asus just dropped another official 13th gen BIOS for my Hero board and we can't get an official non-beta bios before launch? They're not busy working on GPUs lol, so lets hope they can divert some company resources to their other products soon. 

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/19 18:01:32 (permalink)
Official BIOS for 13th Gen Support will be posted later tonight.
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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/19 18:04:31 (permalink)
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Official BIOS for 13th Gen Support will be posted later tonight.




HYPE!!!  Thanks for confirming that! 

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Re: BETA BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.00) / CLASSIFIED (2.00) 2022/10/19 18:20:55 (permalink)
so what about four dimms ad 6400 on a z690 classy ? will a 13900k fix that issue ? from what i have read if you put in four dimms it will limit the speed of the ddr5.
 
thanks for replies in advance
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