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Good morning! Having some strange issues with one of my two identical builds. A little background, I built twin systems for my wife and I, and mine is having issues occasionally, while hers is rock solid. Attached is just some of the many error messages I get randomly at times. I've reset everything to defaults, reseated the CPU, RAM, video card, everything I can think of. Doing the new 1.15 BIOS on mine after this post, and just hoping someone here might have an idea on how to get these errors to stop, and not to crash about every 3-4 days.  Of course, I've not changed the CPU, nor the memory, not sure why the CMOS is freaking out... I don't get it. Twin systems and mine is the only one with an issue. Any guidance on this? Thanks!
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 08:53:51
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☄ Helpfulby swoop1156 2022/09/14 09:07:35
My best guesses, in no particular order:
bad CMOS battery?
bent pin in the socket?
CPU is too tight in socket & iffy contact on one or more pins?
cooler bumped?
RAM training issue?
CPU voltage issue - how set? Auto or custom?
RAM Voltage too low? - set to label Voltage
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:00:23
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My best guesses, in no particular order:
bad CMOS battery?
bent pin in the socket?
CPU is too tight in socket & iffy contact on one or more pins?
cooler bumped?
RAM training issue?
CPU voltage issue - how set? Auto or custom?
RAM Voltage too low? - set to label Voltage
Thanks for the response. I wouldn't think the battery would be bad/low, though that's an easy replacement and test. As far as I know there's no bent pins, everything goes in and out nice and smoothly. Wouldn't think the CPU is too tight or anything RE iffy contact as I've taken it off and reseated and everything looks good to go. Cooler is attached solid to the CPU bracket and it runs nice and cool at idle and not crazy under loads. As far as CPU and RAM voltage, everything is set to AUTO as of now, since I'm having these strange issues. I used to have the conservative OC as well as the Auto OC through the BIOS but went back to AUTO everything to try to figure this out.
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:03:14
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☄ Helpfulby swoop1156 2022/09/14 09:07:32
Manually set RAM voltage to match what is on side of RAM & XMP = Off
New build or sudden issue with previously stable Rig?
W10 or W11? (is crash you mention from inside OS?)
newest BIOS?
Bad stick of RAM - test each stick, one at a time - check slot for dust & lint
Bad power connection to MB? not fully installed & latched
one of the Case's wires connected to MB - has an issue
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:07:30
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Manually set RAM voltage to match what is on side of RAM & XMP = Off
New build or sudden issue with previously stable Rig?
W10 or W11? (is crash you mention from inside OS?)
newest BIOS?
Bad stick of RAM - test each stick, one at a time - check slot for dust & lint
Bad power connection to MB? not tight/ latched
one of the Case's wires connected to MB - has an issue
XMP is currently off. I'll try doing one stick at a time for a while and see if that changes anything. I do not have the 1.15 BIOS yet, I am on 1.14 but also had this issue with an older version as well. I am on Win11, and yes, the crash will just lock up the PC and I have to press the power button ~4 seconds to power off. All connections should be good to MB; I've disconnected and reconnected everything multiple times. I'm really at a loss. I'll try the RAM voltage and if that doesn't work, I'll remove the second stick and run with one. This is a new build and has been happening since it was turned on. Is stable for 3-4-5 days and then crashes, prompting the error messages seen in my first post.
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:09:34
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Event Viewer - see anything?
Windows what version?
Windows Device Manager Errors?
If it acts like you pulled the plug & issue is on a reboot - Very likely one of the PSU safety circuits are tripping - possibly from a GPU spike
Are you using a Riser cable or is GPU plugged into MB slot directly?
GPU - Using 3 separate 6+2 (8-pin) from PSU to GPU?
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:12:46
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Are you using a Riser cable or is GPU plugged into MB slot directly?
GPU - Using 3 separate 6+2 (8-pin) from PSU to GPU?
I was using a riser cable and had it set manually to Gen4, though I am now plugged directly into the PCIe slot and all settings have been reverted in the BIOS. For GPU power, I am NOT using the cable that came with the GPU - I have an "Asiahorse" cable coming from the PSU direct to GPU. (Using the same one on my other build as well).
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:16:17
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Event Viewer - see anything?
Windows what version?
Windows Device Manager Errors?
If it acts like you pulled the plug & issue is on a reboot - Very likely one of the PSU safety circuits are tripping - possibly from a GPU spike
Nothing wild in event logs, just the usual operations. 10.0.22000 is Windows 11 version. No device manager errors. I can reboot a thousand times and it's fine until it locks up, and then I get the error message. I'm not using this thing for anything hardcore, no photo/video editing/rendering, I game very little, I just built beasts to ensure some future-proofing. It's not terrible, but would just like to have stability a little more without this thing thinking it's changing and whatever is going on. Thanks for all the help.
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 09:28:22
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☄ Helpfulby swoop1156 2022/09/14 10:03:46
Turn Fast Boot off in BIOS - you want MB to inventory your hardware CMS Off or On? After you open Windows, go to select shutdown, FIRST hold shift key down & continue to hold shift key until all power is Off - Now select shutdown from within Windows. --> your clearing Windows startup files - we want Windows to inventory your hardware again. NOW open Windows & select Restart (yes, second restart of Windows - selecting restart)
DDU in safe mode after you re-download your Nvidia driver (make sure your current copy in not corrupted) & do a clean install  ONLY install the GPU Driver & PhysX This is also an option for clean install NVCleanstall - NVIDIA Driver Customizer - TechPowerUp After you download the software .... before you install Nvidia driver - Go Offline, (kill network/internet) - then stop ALL background software - Yep, even your security software. Install Nvidia driver - then reboot & make sure security software is ON, before you connect to network 
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 10:03:43
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Turn Fast Boot off in BIOS - you want MB to inventory your hardware
CMS Off or On?
After you open Windows, go to select shutdown, FIRST hold shift key down & continue to hold shift key until all power is Off - Now select shutdown from within Windows. --> your clearing Windows startup files - we want Windows to inventory your hardware again. NOW open Windows & select Restart (yes, second restart of Windows - selecting restart)
DDU in safe mode after you re-download your Nvidia driver (make sure your current copy in not corrupted) & do a clean install
ONLY install the GPU Driver & PhysX
This is also an option for clean install
After you download the software .... before you install Nvidia driver - Go Offline, (kill network/internet) - then stop ALL background software - Yep, even your security software. Install Nvidia driver - then reboot & make sure security software is ON, before you connect to network
CSM is disabled. I turned off Fast Boot. I shutdown as you stated while holding shift. I'll do a reboot now and then the NVCleanstall.
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 10:11:51
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Okay, I've done all that you've recommended. Here's goes! Thanks for all the help! Hopefully this will work.
> PSU: Corsair HX1200 Platinum> Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED> CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K> Cooling: Fractal Design Lumen S36> Physical Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (2x32 GB) DDR5-5200> Monitor: 3x Gigabyte M32U 3840x2160 144 Hz> Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition> Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 10:26:55
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☄ Helpfulby swoop1156 2022/09/14 10:29:13
GL
Hope Stability & gaming fun is all you get now
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Re: Crash randomly, error messages at BIOS screen...
2022/09/14 11:51:29
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Update Could be a "BUG" that others have seen One thing to try (if you use it) Make sure hwinfo is NOT opening on boot (give thanks to tresnugget for point that out in post shown below) As far as possible conflicts go - Do not have Any software open on Boot. Then add one at a time & see if issue still happens What software do you run in the background?
see thread https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3573528 post: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3573548 uplink_svk
veridiuxOh you have this issue as well? I was using the 1.10 and had the issue, then was on 1.12 I think, then 1.14, and now 1.15. I've had it on every bios revision so far. Yes, and I've even had a topic regarding this issue and can't find it anymore 
Here's another guy with same issue. The only thing I did was uninstalling E-leet X1, because it was causing my CPU to coil whine. And since then I have no message of this type when cold booting.
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3574195tresnugget
I was never getting CPU has changed messages but I was getting memory has changed almost every reboot. Turned out pulling up hwinfo or having it open on boot was causing it. Stopped it from opening on boot and I almost never get it any more.
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