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2022/06/28 18:07:59 (permalink)
Motherboard:
Z690 Classified
Power Supply:
EVGA Supernova 1600 T2
Ram::
G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB XMP 3.0 Ready (bought from EVGA).
CPU:
12 Gen i5 - 12600KF (hey, it's what I can afford!)
Video Card::
RTX 3080 Ti XC3
Audio:
EVGA NU AUDIO ((1st gen, bought when it first came out, worked fine in last computer)
M.2
Crucial MX500 M.2 SATA SSD
 
Problem:
Assembled computer and misread the ram placement, put ram in slot 3 and 4.
Computer posted to bios.
Realized my mistake and put ram in slot 2 and 4.
Reboot.
Bios codes came up as follows::
00
28
54
7F
Repeat forever.
Monitor does not see video card which it did before (no input).
Removed ram from slot 4 and rebooted, same thing.
Switched ram and rebooted,still no bios screen.
Replaced ram to slot 4, rebooted, no bios.
Removed M.2 drive and audio card.
No post.
No video.
 
What to do?
 
 
 
 
 


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/28 19:39:12 (permalink)
    did you push the "safe boot" button next to the POST code display?

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 04:49:47 (permalink)
    jfw06013
    Motherboard:
    Z690 Classified
    Power Supply:
    EVGA Supernova 1600 T2
    Ram::
    G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB XMP 3.0 Ready (bought from EVGA).
    CPU:
    12 Gen i5 - 12600KF (hey, it's what I can afford!)
    Video Card::
    RTX 3080 Ti XC3
    Audio:
    EVGA NU AUDIO ((1st gen, bought when it first came out, worked fine in last computer)
    M.2
    Crucial MX500 M.2 SATA SSD
     
    Problem:
    Assembled computer and misread the ram placement, put ram in slot 3 and 4.
    Computer posted to bios.
    Realized my mistake and put ram in slot 2 and 4.
    Reboot.
    Bios codes came up as follows::
    00
    28
    54
    7F
    Repeat forever.
    Monitor does not see video card which it did before (no input).
    Removed ram from slot 4 and rebooted, same thing.
    Switched ram and rebooted,still no bios screen.
    Replaced ram to slot 4, rebooted, no bios.
    Removed M.2 drive and audio card.
    No post.
    No video.
     
    What to do?
     
     
     
     
     

    Clear CMOS (button on back of Mobo) after putting ram in the correct spots (swap memory with all power off. Clear CMOS with just PSU on with PC off)

    54, 7F are memory training issues.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 06:09:14 (permalink)
    Like it’s been said already, try clearing the CMOS. And, please let us know if that worked or if you continue having issues. My Z690 Classified arrived the other day, but I haven’t installed it yet, so I’m curious what this issue is exactly and if I may potentially encounter it.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 07:44:28 (permalink)
    Yes and it worked, once.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 07:59:32 (permalink)
    jfw06013
    Yes and it worked, once.

    It worked once, as in it’s an ongoing issue? If so, did you enable the RAM XMP profile after it worked? Also, what speed is the RAM?


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 08:19:27 (permalink)
    I cleared the CMOS with just the power supply on and there was no change, no video and no bios after I powered on the motherboard.
     
    Pushed the safe boot button as per the manual, still no change.
     
    Ram are in slots 2 and 4.
     
    When I did ((briefly) got the bios up on screen, it only showed 1 stick in slot two (slot 4 is occupied)
    .
    Keyboard does not light up when motherboard is powering up (only lit up the two times when I got the bios on screen).
     
    All other RGB lights up (motherboard, video card).
     
    I took the NU Audio card out and reinstalled the m.2 drive, also unplugged power to the 3.5" hard drive (SATA was not plugged in at any time) though the HD was thrashing when I was powering the motherboard up.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 08:23:59 (permalink)
    ObscureEmptyre
    Ram was 4400 Mhz.
    I did do the XMP but then I cleared the cmos trying to get back into the bios.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 08:28:31 (permalink)
    I could see the board not being happy about running full speed with the memory in the wrong slots. I would believe you might have to clear CMOS to get it to boot normally again, but putting memory in the wrong slots should not cause a hardware failure or make it never boot again.
     
    I'm going to ask what seems like a silly question, but it is strictly from this part that you wrote:
    Assembled computer and misread the ram placement, put ram in slot 3 and 4.
    Computer posted to bios.
    Realized my mistake and put ram in slot 2 and 4.
    Reboot.

     
    Did you swap the memory while the board was powered on? I'm not positive whether or not that would damage the memory, but it seems possible. In any case, you may have to RMA the memory. You bought it from EVGA, so they might take care of that for you, but G.Skill has their own warranty and support that (while I haven't used it in years so I can't really comment on recent history) has been excellent for me previously so it might be worth reaching out to them.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 08:37:36 (permalink)
    It's still an ongoing issue.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 09:05:30 (permalink)
    I never plug or unplug anything while the power supply is on.
     


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 09:53:42 (permalink)
    Try the old school method of one RAM stick at a time in each slot, but clear the CMOS again before you do that just to have a clean start with RAM troubleshooting. And for what it’s worth, I’ve had bad luck with g.skill DDR5. I have two kits that have had 3 sticks die. One kit was RMA’d twice as a result. Hopefully that’s not the case for you.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 10:35:19 (permalink)
    If you have something plugged into a USB port like a game controller then unplug while booting. This happened to me after a bios update.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 12:13:34 (permalink)
    experts, idk but...
     
    aren't all ppl with three BIOS chips and a BIOS Switch, like on this Classy; pretty much safe to try the 2nd BIOS Switch Position in these situations?
     
    if yes ^^, (and because i'm old fashion) then i'd only do it with PC off, PSU switch off (open position), and Power cord unplugged from back of PSU.
     
     

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 12:21:07 (permalink)
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    experts, idk but...
     
    aren't all ppl with three BIOS chips and a BIOS Switch, like on this Classy; pretty much safe to try the 2nd BIOS Switch Position in these situations?
     
    if yes ^^, (and because i'm old fashion) then i'd only do it with PC off, PSU switch off (open position), and Power cord unplugged from back of PSU.

     
    Yeah, absolutely they could try the other BIOS switch positions. I don't know how clearing the CMOS wouldn't take care of an issue with the BIOS settings though. From what they're seeing I'm thinking they have a bad memory kit at this point. I'd probably try hitting the safe boot button before testing each DIMM one at a time, but it's possible that both memory DIMMs are bad.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 12:37:56 (permalink)
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    experts, idk but...
     
    aren't all ppl with three BIOS chips and a BIOS Switch, like on this Classy; pretty much safe to try the 2nd BIOS Switch Position in these situations?
     
    if yes ^^, (and because i'm old fashion) then i'd only do it with PC off, PSU switch off (open position), and Power cord unplugged from back of PSU.

     
    Yeah, absolutely they could try the other BIOS switch positions. I don't know how clearing the CMOS wouldn't take care of an issue with the BIOS settings though. From what they're seeing I'm thinking they have a bad memory kit at this point. I'd probably try hitting the safe boot button before testing each DIMM one at a time, but it's possible that both memory DIMMs are bad.




    cool. i see... clearing CMOS only removes individual settings the user has applied.
     
    Question: when u say "safe boot button" i'm only aware of:
     
    --Reset Button (On MOBO -- Top right corner -- Left Button)
    --Power Button (On MOBO -- Top right corner – Right Button)
    --BIOS Update Button (Rear Panel I/O -- Left Button)
    --BIOS/CMOS Reset Button (Rear Panel I/O – Right Button)
     
    is one of ^^ named different on ur 570 and u got in the habit of calling it "safe boot button"? 
     
    TY
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/06/29 12:49:49

    > PSU: Seasonic VERTEX GX-1200
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    > Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 14:12:34 (permalink)
    Nope. There's a small button next to the POST LEDs on a z690 classified. it is silver with a small black button. It is very much like resetting the CMOS as it just reverts all settings to default. I think it might do the same thing as the CMOS reset button on the back I/O panel, but I'm not sure. On my old z590 (I never had an x570) it was on the bottom near the BIOS switch. We're all talking z690 classy though, which is in the upper right near the other switches and POST LEDs.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 15:08:24 (permalink)
    Bee_Dee_3_Dee
    experts, idk but...
     
    aren't all ppl with three BIOS chips and a BIOS Switch, like on this Classy; pretty much safe to try the 2nd BIOS Switch Position in these situations?
     
    if yes ^^, (and because i'm old fashion) then i'd only do it with PC off, PSU switch off (open position), and Power cord unplugged from back of PSU.
     
     

    Ha! I’d actually forgotten that this board has several BIOS modules. I usually opt for that when looking for a motherboard, but all three of the other Z690 boards I have only have one BIOS. Kind of surprising that the Aorus Master I have only has one BIOS. But yeah, that’s definitely a viable option to try for troubleshooting. Would still suck if one of the BIOS was borked out of the box. Hopefully it can be recovered, if that’s the case.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/29 17:15:12 (permalink)
    B0baganoosh
    Nope. There's a small button next to the POST LEDs on a z690 classified. it is silver with a small black button. It is very much like resetting the CMOS as it just reverts all settings to default. I think it might do the same thing as the CMOS reset button on the back I/O panel, but I'm not sure. On my old z590 (I never had an x570) it was on the bottom near the BIOS switch. We're all talking z690 classy though, which is in the upper right near the other switches and POST LEDs.



    cool.
     
    TY
     
    It's #27 on Page 12 of manual: "BIOS Safeboot Button".
     
    I'll add it, and add the definition on Page 20, right away to my Notes.
     
    Noticed it during unboxing. But missed adding it to my notes because two Gaming builds ago, a (Gigabyte) MOBO I had, had a [Reset CMOS Button] that looked exactly like it, on the lower right corner of MOBO, near the CMOS battery. Plus once this Classy was in my case I couldn't see the [BIOS Safeboot Button] and never noticed it again until now.
     
    Thanks again!

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    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/30 05:12:42 (permalink)
    To be clear, safe boot button just uses the settings you had prior to the latest applied setting in bios. It doesn't know whether those settings are any good or stable, nor does it change any settings itself.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/30 06:15:15 (permalink)
    jfw06013
     
    Ram are in slots 2 and 4.
     
    When I did ((briefly) got the bios up on screen, it only showed 1 stick in slot two (slot 4 is occupied)
    .
     



    power everything off. take the stick out of slot 4, reseat it. i know it sounds silly but to me it sounds like the stick that wasn't detected wasn't seated properly. maybe it is, in which case you may have a bad stick or bad dimm slot. both are possible, and you could def test the other stick in slot 4 to see if it changes anything. but if both sticks are seated correctly, then i would guess you have hardware failure. 
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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/30 06:21:44 (permalink)
    Jomama22
    To be clear, safe boot button just uses the settings you had prior to the latest applied setting in bios. It doesn't know whether those settings are any good or stable, nor does it change any settings itself.



    I knew there must be a difference, but I couldn't remember and didn't have time to look it up last time. Thanks!
     
    I believe the full descriptions are in the users manual if folks would check there lol.

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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/30 06:57:08 (permalink)
    I did look in the manual.
    Thanks everyone for the help, gonna call tech support and see what they have to say.


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/30 12:32:44 (permalink)
    B0baganoosh
    Jomama22
    To be clear, safe boot button just uses the settings you had prior to the latest applied setting in bios. It doesn't know whether those settings are any good or stable, nor does it change any settings itself.



    I knew there must be a difference, but I couldn't remember and didn't have time to look it up last time. Thanks!
     
    I believe the full descriptions are in the users manual if folks would check there lol.




    I don't keep the Page numbers of manual, in my notes, but thanks to you it starts out as following:
     
    -- BIOS Safeboot Button (On MOBO -- Top right corner – Top right of DDR5 DIMM Slots)
     
    -- Pressing this button while the system is running will reboot the motherboard directly into the BIOS without clearing CMOS. This feature is very useful for situations where the motherboard is unable to complete boot due to a failed overclock and the user does not want to erase the previous settings used.
     
     
    I LUV ^^ feature. It's brilliant.
     
    I trust Phone support to help OP. They have always helped me. 
     
     
    GL jfw06013
     
    The rest of my notes ("Z690 CLASSIFIED’s FIVE Buttons, BIOS LEDs, and BIOS SWITCH") cover the additional four buttons. (Two on Rear Panel IO and two on MOBO's Top Right Corner.)
     
    In addition...
     
    Anyone ever in the same boat as the OP (jfw06013), should place a single RAM stick in Slot 2. (Chart on Page -26- shows with one stick: use Slot 2.) And after clearing CMOS like OP did. 
     
    Plus re-seating Video Card too! (He's got a KF.)
     
    Edit: i just changed incorrect "Slot 3" to incorrectly "Slot 1" and finally to correct "Slot 2" for having 1 RAM Stick. Four separate Charts would be better.
     
    post edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee - 2022/06/30 12:51:16

    > PSU: Seasonic VERTEX GX-1200
    > Mainboard: EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED (BIOS v1.03 12/3/2021)
    > CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF
    > AIO: EVGA CLC 240mm
    > Physical Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 5600
    > Physical Memory Model#: F5-5600U3636C16GX2-TZ5S
    > Monitor: Alienware AW2721D
    > Video Card: EVGA 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    > Case: Cooler Master HAF X (942)
    > DAS: Sabrent DS-SC5B
     
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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/06/30 16:21:46 (permalink)
    Try taking out the motherboard out from the case and see if it does boot up. Also see if you cpu cooler is tightened evenly on all 4 screws on the cpu and not over tightened which sometimes can lead to not booting up or memory slot loss. Remember also that the heat spreader on the cpu isn't even completely flat. You never even mentioned what case and cpu cooler you are using.
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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/07/01 18:33:41 (permalink)
    I talked to EVGA tech support and this is we determined.
     
    1) Slot 2 is F.U.B.A.R.,or the memory controller on the cpu is, or I have bent pins on the motherboard\cpu.
    As Project Farm say's "We are are gonna check that".
     
    2) M.2 Crucial MX500 is a SATA device, so is incompatible with the M.2 slots on the motherboard.
     
    Before I RMA the board, I'm gonna put a (true)M.2 device and clone my boot drive to it, after I do that to a regular hard drive and make sure the system boot first.
     
    Then update motherboard drivers and other software.
    Just waiting for the hardware to come in Sunday.
     
     


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/07/01 18:38:02 (permalink)
    Corsair 4000D, Noctua D15.
     


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    Re: no post on Z690 classsy 2022/07/01 19:19:36 (permalink)
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    I talked to EVGA tech support and this is we determined.
     
    1) Slot 2 is F.U.B.A.R.,or the memory controller on the cpu is, or I have bent pins on the motherboard\cpu.
    As Project Farm say's "We are are gonna check that".
     
    2) M.2 Crucial MX500 is a SATA device, so is incompatible with the M.2 slots on the motherboard.
     
    Before I RMA the board, I'm gonna put a (true)M.2 device and clone my boot drive to it, after I do that to a regular hard drive and make sure the system boot first.
     
    Then update motherboard drivers and other software.
    Just waiting for the hardware to come in Sunday.
     
     

    Ouch, that’s rough. Hopefully it’s not a pressure thing when it comes to the dead RAM slot or CPU mem controller. Apparently, that’s a thing when it comes to LGA 1700. The CPU bracket has been known to warp CPUs because it isn’t the best-suited for LGA 1700 and provides uneven pressure. The bracket type may have worked for previous sockets, but it just doesn’t seem to be up to snuff for this latest one. That’s why companies like Thermal Grizzly have developed a replacement bracket that provide even mounting pressure. And, hopefully it isn’t a bent pin. I’ve had to bend back LGA pins before and it’s not easy, nor is there a guarantee it works.

    As far as m.2 drives being SATA goes, I don’t even know why they were ever manufactured. The only use case I can conceive is limited case space, or perhaps to declutter a case. Either way, they’re still limited to the SATA bus. NVMe drives are thankfully and steadily coming down in price. Although, I winced when I clicked the “place order” button when I recently bought two 2 TB Samsung Pro drives to use with my Z690 Classified. I wanted to reuse my two 1 TB drives, but I’m running out of space thanks to the size of modern games. I could have bought less expensive 2 TB drives, but those would have been PCI-E gen 3. Doubtful I’d notice the difference, but I figured I’d go with gen 4 since the mobo supports it.

    Anyway, I hope you don’t need to RMA the board, but EVGA will take care of you if you do.


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