https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p8O91LVcITEtPWXnn4LRVkEynz8hXoQGySMRRxEKtFs/edit#gid=0
(please check link as it has  the details of what im getting)
i put off buying a 3080  because i feel i might as well buy an 4080 as they will release this year
 
 but the main reason I'm posting here is because i have a question and i want some advise
 
 
 i cant decide to get a watercooled, hybrid, or air cooled 4080
i wont be overclocking and its already going to probably be way overkill for what i need
 
 so my questions is.. what would be the quietest?
 
 THE  hybrid only has 1 fan
 
 and i know the 4080 is going to make a LOT more heat
  mostly care about the noise
 
 does ne1 have a good decibe comparison between the hybrid,, water cooledm and 3 fan ftw for the 3080?
 
 im assuming 4080 might be similar
 

SwiftKitten
ok why cant i post the link >.>

Because you don't have enough posts to allow you to post links.

 since i cant link my google spreadsheet yet
 
 i had a couple more question.
 right now I'm using windows 10.
 
 i am assuming im going to have to get windows 11 when i make my new pc.
 
 what do people think of windows 11?
 is it  more aligned with windowed 7 and 10? or bad like 8
 
 also is the hybrid only has 1 fan ( at least for the 3080..  im used to 1 fan gpu's making a ton of noise.. does the water cool hybrid part make it not have to turn at screaming speeds?
 
 i wasnt even going to really consider water cooled but i know the 4080 is going to take a ton of power so i figured it was going to get pretty hot.
 
 also whats this about the 4080 not being pcie 5.0? is that for the founders edition from nvidia themselves
 or is that something evga can change when they launch theirs.
 
 i was considering a dedicated water cooling system for cpu and gpu,, but idk how much quieter that would make it
 
 ( budget is 4.5k)
 ( assume everything new except keyboard and mouse, and potentially monitor if i upgrade to 4k)

SwiftKitten
 i had a couple more question.  right now I'm using windows 10.
  i am assuming im going to have to get windows 11 when i make my new pc.
 what do people think of windows 11?
 is it  more aligned with windowed 7 and 10? or bad like 8
 

I'm currently running Win11.  Mainly because I finally have a significant amount of my customer-base on it.
It is NOT ready yet!

Granted, some of my issues are also having to throw NVSurround on top of that.
But Win11's interface is BADLY BADLY BROKEN.

Unless you have some technical reason to load Win11.
And "12th Gen Intel benefits from the newer thread scheduler" isn't enough of a reason to put up with Win11.

Give Win11 12-18 months more to help iron out problems before reconsidering.

If you want a stable, usable OS for now?  Stick with Win10.



 
 
 

also is the hybrid only has 1 fan ( at least for the 3080..  im used to 1 fan gpu's making a ton of noise.. does the water cool hybrid part make it not have to turn at screaming speeds?
 
 i wasnt even going to really consider water cooled but i know the 4080 is going to take a ton of power so i figured it was going to get pretty hot.
 
 also whats this about the 4080 not being pcie 5.0? is that for the founders edition from nvidia themselves
 or is that something evga can change when they launch theirs.

Until we get closer to the release, we can't really answer the questions about the 4K series cards.


 

i was considering a dedicated water cooling system for cpu and gpu,, but idk how much quieter that would make it
 
 ( budget is 4.5k)
 ( assume everything new exact keyboard and mouse, and potentially monitor if i upgrade to 4k)

Ideally, a custom loop setup COULD be quieter.
Normally, if you over-spec your loop, you can run the radiator fans at lower speeds, yet still accomplish your cooling objectives.
Me?  My rig cost me about $5K.  And I got forced to go with an AIO setup (had a bunch of unexpected expenses shave a bunch of money out of my budget).  Granted, it's the Alphacool Eisbaer 420.  Mainly because I was planning for mass storage from the word "go".

But if you're planning a basic system (Chip, GPU, single big SSD, basic RAM) to start and plan to build out over time from there?  Yeah, a custom loop is in your budget.  Unless your video card is ludicrous.

Also, don't fart around with with any of the proprietary fan control software out there.

https://youtu.be/uDPKVKBMQU8

This software, https://github.com/rem0o/fancontrol.releases, is probably THE most advanced, comprehensive piece of fan control kit available right now.




 

so i can still buy windows 10 come September?
 i could go amd but i have never bought amd before
 
 back when i first but this computer ( like 10 years ago) amd  seemed to have faster but cheaper made products that died quicker and was meant to be replaced sooner, idk if that is the case anymore
 
 i was planning on getting 32 gb DDR5 ram ( 2x 16 GB sticks, may be overkill i haven't) i have barely even used half of my 18 gb here on this computer yet
 i was panning on getting a 1 tb gen 5 m.2 but it donest looks like gen 5 will be ready yet. as well as a secondary drive just for data (large image files)
 i also really need a new case.
 i wasn't planning on doing a disc drive this time around
 
 my MB was ideally going to have  2x gen 5 pci slots and 2x gen5 m.2 slots but i don't see a point in either of those if  the m.2 drives aren't out yet and if the 4080 doesn't support gen 5 pcie
i'll probably go with a MB with 2x m.2 gen 4 slots and 1 pcie 5 slot, and bluetooth and wifi 6, i was planning on raptor lake, but we'll see whats available when 4080 releases
 i want a quiet computer than can last me ~5 years
 with the case lasting 10 years
 with at least 2x usb 3.2 on the front and one usb c on the front
 

 
Moved to Hardware.

charlesborner

rjohnson11
I am running Windows 11 and it is fine for gaming in its present state (in my personal opinion). 
 
You might also want to consider the new AMD CPUs and motherboards coming out late this year. 

With Win11, it REALLY depends on your build.
If you're going multi-monitor, Win11's UI is just flat out BROKE.  Both in regular use and gaming.

If you're running a vanilla single-screen setup, it might be better.

I've got 4 displays connected to my 2080 Super and also running Win11.  No issue's here with regular use or gaming.  There are a few things I don't care for functionally, but everything runs very well.

i know nvida pretty much said 4000 series wont use gen 5 pcie, is that something that evga can add for their own models or is that something that would have would have to be done during chip manufacturing and not pcba manufactring

SwiftKitten
i know nvida pretty much said 4000 series wont use gen 5 pcie, is that something that evga can add for their own models or is that something that would have would have to be done during chip manufacturing and not pcba manufactring

Just to be clear, Nvidia has made no official announcements regarding Ada/40 series GPUs (and whether they will use pcie 4.0 or 5.0).   What I think you are referring to is a rumor posted by a Twitter user a week or two ago that made it's way to some of the rumor mill tech blogs out there, but should have no bearing on your decision.  
 
In terms of mobo consideration, I would go with pcie 5.0 just for the forward compatibility.  Plus you can split the bandwidth with other pcie devices.
 
Regarding Windows..  I believe if you have Win 10, you can get the free upgrade to 11, so you could theoretically try them both out if you go 10.  They should by all means still have Win 10 licenses available come Sept.
 
 

as of right now what should i look for in a 1 or 2 tb m.2 drive
im hearding good things about the SAMSUNG 980 PRO
 but that that also may not have great "endurance ratings"
 
 also wondering if the "heat sink" version is worth the extra cost (i would wager it is)
 
 also wondering when the new versions come out ( probably in September like everything else)

ok so what do people recommend for a a case?
it needs to have 2x front usb 3.2 and  headphone jack
1x front usb C
 and ideally have the option to support full/and or watercooling because i haven't decided on hybrid or full yet
 im not someone who really cared about the "shiny" or colors
 

this is a bit of a bump, but we are getting closer to launch
 while i can quite get much info on the 4080 yet as that still not out and they are doing some changes to that
 
 
 i am curious as to motherboards and their pricing
 
 ideally im going to want 1x pcie 5.0 slot
 and 2x 5.0 m.2 slots
 
 but i would also like one that can support a usb c wire to the front of the case if thats possible
 
  motherboards seem to have massive prices sifference between 150 and like $800
 
 and while i get some of that is exile pcie 5.0 slots im not entirely sure whats important to pick out
 z790 is the neest gen so that seems an obvoius choice but even thier price range varies wildly and idk why