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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 15:34:53 (permalink)
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kevinc313 is an avid anti undervolter and has about as much understanding of the process as a flat-earther has in Astronomy. On the other hand , I made my fist undervolt for my 3090 ti and it's 14294 in port royal score only pulled 302 watts and the temperature looks like its on a water block, stress test had memory temperatures in the 40s.



I fully understand "undervolting", how to do it, have tested it extensively, the behavior it produces, how unstable and unreliable it is, and how unnatural it is to fight against the card's control firmware/bios aka Nvidia Boost.  Also how ridiculous it is buy a $1000 gpu and not cool it properly.
 
I also provided TWO superior options in my post for capping power consumption, temps and heat while overclocking and optionally locking clock.  There are plenty of legitimate reasons to do that.
 
People like to think they are clever manipulating the voltage frequency curve, but they are not.


Kev , you only run your ignorance flag up the pole with statements like this, just let it go bud, 
I have the Numbers and 3d mark valid results behind me, when you want to compare numbers , lets do it.
All cards are different and every single one has a happy spot weather you overclock or undervolt, and a proper undervolt is actually an overclock, Its getting the same performance with less power draw. Cards are produced to work within a tolerance and if you can tune that to work at it's upper most efficiently, why not try it.   I am here to provide advise to those who wish to listen.
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 16:53:33 (permalink)
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Kev , you only run your ignorance flag up the pole with statements like this, just let it go bud, 
I have the Numbers and 3d mark valid results behind me, when you want to compare numbers , lets do it.
All cards are different and every single one has a happy spot weather you overclock or undervolt, and a proper undervolt is actually an overclock, Its getting the same performance with less power draw. Cards are produced to work within a tolerance and if you can tune that to work at it's upper most efficiently, why not try it.   I am here to provide advise to those who wish to listen.




Nice, so you're on the 3DMark Port Royal Single card Hall of Fame with your undervolted 3090 Ti?  That's extremely impressive.  Which is yours?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0/1+gpu
 
Here's my 'undervolted' (by your definition) 3080 FTW3 Hybrid running currently top 40 in the world for 3080's in Timespy GPU score, from 18 months ago:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16605955
 
'Undervolting' is an unreliable overclocking and power capping method with a bunch of reddit tier handwaving and elitist cultism surrounding it.  There are better ways to achieve the stated goals, in fact, Nvidia makes those tools readily accessible in the form of a power slider, clock slider and Nvidia-SMI!  If proponents of undervolting truly cared about performance, they would go to the minimal incremental cost and effort to improve their cooling so they can properly use the power capabilities of their GPU and get the most out of overclocking it.
 
 
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/05/13 21:38:29
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:10:28 (permalink)
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Kev , you only run your ignorance flag up the pole with statements like this, just let it go bud, 
I have the Numbers and 3d mark valid results behind me, when you want to compare numbers , lets do it.
All cards are different and every single one has a happy spot weather you overclock or undervolt, and a proper undervolt is actually an overclock, Its getting the same performance with less power draw. Cards are produced to work within a tolerance and if you can tune that to work at it's upper most efficiently, why not try it.   I am here to provide advise to those who wish to listen.




Nice, so you're on the 3DMark Port Royal Single card Hall of Fame with your undervolted 3090 Ti?  That's extremely impressive.  Which is yours?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0/1+gpu
 
Here's my 'undervolted' (by your definition) 3080 running currently top 40 in the world in Timespy GPU score, from 18 months ago:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16605955
 
'Undervolting' is an unreliable overclocking and power capping method with a bunch of reddit tier handwaving and elitist cultism surrounding it.  There are better ways to achieve the stated goals, in fact, Nvidia makes those tools readily accessible in the form of a power slider, clock slider and Nvidia-SMI!
 
 


what eva boi . lolz
I never said I had a TOP 100 card. where did you find he ability to miss understand so much in such a short period of time.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9-12900K Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 (MS-7D32) (3dmark.com)
here's quick run I did just now
 
post edited by kraade - 2022/05/13 17:13:02
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:12:05 (permalink)
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Kev , you only run your ignorance flag up the pole with statements like this, just let it go bud, 
I have the Numbers and 3d mark valid results behind me, when you want to compare numbers , lets do it.
All cards are different and every single one has a happy spot weather you overclock or undervolt, and a proper undervolt is actually an overclock, Its getting the same performance with less power draw. Cards are produced to work within a tolerance and if you can tune that to work at it's upper most efficiently, why not try it.   I am here to provide advise to those who wish to listen.




Nice, so you're on the 3DMark Port Royal Single card Hall of Fame with your undervolted 3090 Ti?  That's extremely impressive.  Which is yours?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0/1+gpu
 
Here's my 'undervolted' (by your definition) 3080 running currently top 40 in the world in Timespy GPU score, from 18 months ago:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16605955
 
'Undervolting' is an unreliable overclocking and power capping method with a bunch of reddit tier handwaving and elitist cultism surrounding it.  There are better ways to achieve the stated goals, in fact, Nvidia makes those tools readily accessible in the form of a power slider, clock slider and Nvidia-SMI!
 
 


Your repetitive and ignorant trolling is not needed in yet another thread. They also make the voltage curve available (you know, another tool) for those more competent than you, in fact.
Grow up.
post edited by HeavyHemi - 2022/05/13 17:14:06

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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:16:43 (permalink)
Sorry Hemi. I added to it...
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:17:07 (permalink)
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Kev , you only run your ignorance flag up the pole with statements like this, just let it go bud, 
I have the Numbers and 3d mark valid results behind me, when you want to compare numbers , lets do it.
All cards are different and every single one has a happy spot weather you overclock or undervolt, and a proper undervolt is actually an overclock, Its getting the same performance with less power draw. Cards are produced to work within a tolerance and if you can tune that to work at it's upper most efficiently, why not try it.   I am here to provide advise to those who wish to listen.




Nice, so you're on the 3DMark Port Royal Single card Hall of Fame with your undervolted 3090 Ti?  That's extremely impressive.  Which is yours?
 
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/port+royal+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0/1+gpu
 
Here's my 'undervolted' (by your definition) 3080 running currently top 40 in the world in Timespy GPU score, from 18 months ago:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16605955
 
'Undervolting' is an unreliable overclocking and power capping method with a bunch of reddit tier handwaving and elitist cultism surrounding it.  There are better ways to achieve the stated goals, in fact, Nvidia makes those tools readily accessible in the form of a power slider, clock slider and Nvidia-SMI!
 
 


 

what eva boi . lolz
I never said I had a TOP 100 card. where did you find he ability to miss understand so much in such a short period of time.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9-12900K Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 (MS-7D32) (3dmark.com)
here's quick run I did just now
 




Hey you beat me by 12.7% using a GPU costing $1500 more, 18 months later.  Good job.
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:19:05 (permalink)
LOL 23 C , 
 
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:22:06 (permalink)
HeavyHemi They also make the voltage curve available (you know, another tool) for those more competent than you, in fact.
 




I literally just posted a Timespy run where I used the PX1 curve editor to lock 1.1v at an actual 2,265mhz and sustained 2,250mhz.
 
(Then put the PC outside in the middle of the night in the middle of winter)
 
Sigh.
 
Just because I know how to do it doesn't mean I think it's a reasonable choice for daily driver use.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/05/13 17:25:12
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:23:57 (permalink)
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Hey you beat me by 12.7% using a GPU costing $1500 more, 18 months later.  Good job.




looking like a looser , and a sore looser, go troll someone else on somewhere else please, we do not need this obtw.
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 17:26:16 (permalink)
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Hey you beat me by 12.7% using a GPU costing $1500 more, 18 months later.  Good job.




looking like a looser , and a sore looser, go troll someone else on somewhere else please, we do not need this obtw.




I haven't bothered to bench my 3090 Kingpin and haven't been able to justify the costs of going 3090 SLI.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/05/13 17:54:16
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/13 18:10:52 (permalink)
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/16 09:26:52 (permalink)
This Kevin guy must be great at parties. 
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/17 15:36:47 (permalink)
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This Kevin guy must be great at parties. 




I am, thanks.
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/17 16:01:14 (permalink)
UPDATE: I undervolted a TI that can outperform a stock 3090 Kingpin at just 309 watts 
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/17 17:12:46 (permalink)
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UPDATE: I undervolted a TI that can outperform a stock 3090 Kingpin at just 309 watts 





 
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/17 17:17:45 (permalink)
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UPDATE: I undervolted a TI that can outperform a stock 3090 Kingpin at just 309 watts 

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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/18 10:51:51 (permalink)
Yeah I undervolted my 3080 and all of a sudden it runs better than stock without hitting any perfcaps
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/18 15:06:24 (permalink)
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HeavyHemi They also make the voltage curve available (you know, another tool) for those more competent than you, in fact.
 




I literally just posted a Timespy run where I used the PX1 curve editor to lock 1.1v at an actual 2,265mhz and sustained 2,250mhz.
 
(Then put the PC outside in the middle of the night in the middle of winter)
 
Sigh.
 
Just because I know how to do it doesn't mean I think it's a reasonable choice for daily driver use.


Locking the voltage at max is not using the curve nor address what we're doing. In fact, it is just about the opposite. What a boring repetitive troll.  Because you don't know what you're doing, is the reason for not using that choice for daily use. Stick to the 'click the button' for noob options you prefer.

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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/18 15:11:32 (permalink)
This reminds me of the good old days at RealRedRaider forums
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Re: GPU boosting past undervolt limits? 2022/05/18 20:37:18 (permalink)
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HeavyHemi They also make the voltage curve available (you know, another tool) for those more competent than you, in fact.
 




I literally just posted a Timespy run where I used the PX1 curve editor to lock 1.1v at an actual 2,265mhz and sustained 2,250mhz.
 
(Then put the PC outside in the middle of the night in the middle of winter)
 
Sigh.
 
Just because I know how to do it doesn't mean I think it's a reasonable choice for daily driver use.


Locking the voltage at max is not using the curve nor address what we're doing. In fact, it is just about the opposite. What a boring repetitive troll.  Because you don't know what you're doing, is the reason for not using that choice for daily use. Stick to the 'click the button' for noob options you prefer.




Sigh, more handwaving.  I feel like you might be overly confident in your skill and experience level here.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2022/05/18 20:41:49
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