Everyone else, day of. EVGA... months later lol.

As for timing, the FTW boards seem to release soon after launch. The Dark boards take a lot longer because of R&D and testing to get the board as good as it can be before release.

pathfindercod
That and the recent z590 board releases with lcd screen burning out and not performing above par of its peers i am a little concerned about the future of evga boards. Maybe because TiN is gone?

Wait, the EVGA z590 boards have lcd screens?

rblaes_99
no.  no LCD screens at all.

Then I am very confused. What is pathfindercod referencing?

rblaes_99
this i guess.
 
https://forums.evga.com/POST-LED-Indicator-failure-m3456917.aspx
 
 

That would make sense! I was confused because it said LCD, which is close in lettering but close enough to LED.

As for that LED screen, I can understand people wanting it to work, even if it doesn’t do much at all for daily operations.

Sorry yes LED, sorry for confusion. If it’s a feature to be included and one of their advertised selling point on the product page then yeah it should work and not have mass burnouts. I know crap happens and I am by now means trying to crap on EVGA. I love and have been using their products for 20 years.

the_Scarlet_one
I have no electrical engineering or programming background, so I am just stabbing in the dark guessing, but I wonder if it is a controller issue since the post code led can be programmed to do so many different things.

Those same style LED’s have been in use for so long without issue, so what would cause it now, other than maybe a programming issue with the controller? And I feel it would be impossible to say “because T|n” left since the micro, classified, and FTW boards weren’t his focus, the dark and kingpin were his primary focus.

Your earlier comment was correct, I had no other issues with my board, it seemed to run great. I do overclock though and change hardware sometimes. Also, my 3080ti sometimes makes it throw a d6 error if I turn the pc on while my monitors are powered off, but if there was a more serious problem than that, I wouldn't be able to diagnose it with the post code. It is a very helpful tool when problem solving and I wanted it to work.

I did some speculation in the other thread (all we can do unless they give us some information)but I can add some here. I suppose it could be controller related, but from what I was told they can't adjust the brightness by programming it differently. That would mean the controller simply does on/off for each segment. If they're burning out, it means there's either a defect in the LEDs, or they're being driven too high, causing premature failure. A variety of things could have happened, from somehow the part changed and the datasheet wasn't updated, or it was out of stock one day so someone ordered a different one thinking it was the same spec, but it wasn't rated for the same current as the original and now there's a mix of them in the field. Or maybe the supplier sent the factory the wrong part because of a problem upstream. It could be the wrong model controller that drives the LED to a higher current than it should for the same reasons above. I had said in the other thread that there are certainly many ways this could have happened and not been in any way EVGA's fault. There are a few ways it could have too. We won't know unless they tell us. Maybe they've only had 10-15 RMAs for it and just haven't looked into it. I've had at least two evga boards before that used an identical looking led for over 10 years and had never heard of this issue before (I don't remember if they were on the 680i or 780i, add more years if they had the indicators too lol). I find it hard to believe that EVGA just one day forgot how to design that circuit or forgot how to spec the parts for it, which is why I speculated a part defect or somehow a wrong part getting into inventory. I just know from reading the forums that it has effected the z590 FTW, Z590 Dark, z490 Dark, and x570 so whatever the part is that is behind the problem has been used for production of those 4 boards. Can't say anything about other boards, or even that all of the boards for those models have issues, just that some of the indicators on those model boards have failed recently. I can also say that the solder joints on my indicator looked great, so it likely isn't a solder issue.

I don't have any insight into this particular issue as I am just a customer here, but I am an Electrical Engineer and design circuits and PCBs for a living, so I can offer some relevant theories.

rblaes_99
seems that we are all stuck with this "take what you can get" economy.... and it probably is the same for the manufactures of the stuff we want as well.  

Can confirm. I don't know how much EVGA has been hit, but for my job, we have been forced to evaluate alternate components constantly for the last 2 years. Everything from USB hubs used in large assemblies to various ICs, resistors, and capacitors just go out of stock regularly with lead times on the order of 2-18 months. As I said, I don't know if that has any impact or is in any way related to this LED indicator issue. I was just saying I wouldn't be surprised to learn that as it has been impacting my life for a while as a person who works at a place that designs and manufactures electronic things.