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2021/08/28 03:23:17 (permalink)
Hey everyone, so I am having some issues setting up SLI for the first time and am a little confused with the PCIe lane distribution. The manual is extremely vague and I am starting to second guess everything I thought I knew about PCIe. I’ll start with the PC specs.

CPU - 10700k
Mobo - Z590 FTW, BIOS is 1.04 (I did just see a new update was released and will update when I’m home)
GPUs - Dual 3090 KPE
Memory - GSkill Ripjaws 2x16gb 3600/cl14
Storage - 1tb Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 (Center/80mm slot), 2tb 970 Evo Plus M.2 (Bottom/110mm slot)
Other - Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 and NEXT flow sensor plugged into the USB 3.2 Gen1 port, no SATA devices or any other headers are being used
OS - Windows 10 Home with a fresh install of everything.


Please bear with me as I am still learning and this is my first time having to worry about running out of PCIe lanes. As of right now GPUz is showing GPU1 at x8 and GPU2 at x1.1. From my understanding I should have x16 lanes from the CPU that is only being used by the PCIe slots and x24 PCH lanes for all the various other components. I thought the bottom 2 M.2 slots used the PCH lanes and the top slot used the CPU lanes (with rocket lake). Am I mistaken and these all use the CPU lanes or do I need to start figuring out why I’m not getting the full x16 at the PCIe slots?
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/08/28 05:06:14 (permalink)
Did you update your bios? They made some specific improvements for sli.

You are correct in your understanding that you should be able to run both cards at x8. Did you try reseating them in the slots? (at least tte second one)

One other thing to consider is that gpuz will show the lane numbers "downclocked" when they are not in use. What does it say in the bios menu?

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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/08/28 05:35:25 (permalink)
According to page 16 and 17 of the manual your PCI-E slots split to 8x when two video cards are installed. 
 
As an experiment remove the bottom M.2 and recheck GPU2. If you put both NVMe M.2 SSDs into your PC when you installed windows then you might not be able to remove one M.2 at a time. 

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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/08/28 05:56:07 (permalink)
So I just got home from work about an hour ago, just giving a quick update. I just finished updating the BIOS, the BIOS does say 2 PCI devices at x8 3.0. I disabled the top M.2 slot and bottom x4 PCIe slot in the BIOS and started the PC without the NVlink just to see how everything is looking. I’m going to reinstall the latest Nividia driver, do a quick benchmark on each GPU individually, and as long as everything looks fine for each GPU I will power down and reinstall the NVlink.


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One other thing to consider is that gpuz will show the lane numbers "downclocked" when they are not in use. What does it say in the bios menu?


I was not aware of this so that’s probably where the x1.1 speed was coming from. Thanks for the info on that.
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/08/28 07:46:25 (permalink)
SLI is now working! Both GPUs worked fine during the individual benchmarks, I installed the NVLINK and as soon as I booted up I got the SLI pop up 😁 I’m assuming the BIOS update fixed it, I do appreciate the info from everyone and for confirming that I was on the right track with understanding how the PCIe lanes functioned.
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/08/28 08:34:27 (permalink)
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SLI is now working! Both GPUs worked fine during the individual benchmarks, I installed the NVLINK and as soon as I booted up I got the SLI pop up 😁 I’m assuming the BIOS update fixed it, I do appreciate the info from everyone and for confirming that I was on the right track with understanding how the PCIe lanes functioned.

Great news. Thanks for sharing. 

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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/08/28 09:09:45 (permalink)
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So I just got home from work about an hour ago, just giving a quick update. I just finished updating the BIOS, the BIOS does say 2 PCI devices at x8 3.0. I disabled the top M.2 slot and bottom x4 PCIe slot in the BIOS and started the PC without the NVlink just to see how everything is looking. I’m going to reinstall the latest Nividia driver, do a quick benchmark on each GPU individually, and as long as everything looks fine for each GPU I will power down and reinstall the NVlink.


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One other thing to consider is that gpuz will show the lane numbers "downclocked" when they are not in use. What does it say in the bios menu?


I was not aware of this so that’s probably where the x1.1 speed was coming from. Thanks for the info on that.


I learned that here, so I was happy to pass it along.

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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/09/24 06:48:31 (permalink)
i am happy to hear it, i just need to get that last gpu card and i'll be able to use it for the SLI compatibility !
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2021/10/01 08:11:14 (permalink)
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SLI is now working! Both GPUs worked fine during the individual benchmarks, I installed the NVLINK and as soon as I booted up I got the SLI pop up 😁 I’m assuming the BIOS update fixed it, I do appreciate the info from everyone and for confirming that I was on the right track with understanding how the PCIe lanes functioned.



love to see it. i've got dual kingpins in my bench as of last night finally. but i'm not even seeing the SLI setting in nvidia control panel. additionally, i see both cards as x8 though i just have 1 nvme in the middle slot on 10900K. in your opinion, do I need to update my bios as well? i'm on z590 dark so not sure if the issue is similarly resolved with a bios update.
 
thanks for any help you can offer! have a great weekend

Update: I flashed the newest bios for the board and we are in business.

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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2023/02/20 16:32:54 (permalink)
Cool seeing so many people having SLI Kingpins! Im currently Non-K OCing with SLI KPE 3090s. Very fun! Have you guys updated your bios since this post? Which works best with SLI? Im currently on 1.15 and cant seem to get x16 4.0 for both with 2 GEN 4 cables. Cant be the lanes right? Im disabling the M.2 slots.
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2023/02/21 04:57:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2023/02/21 08:21:54
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Cool seeing so many people having SLI Kingpins! Im currently Non-K OCing with SLI KPE 3090s. Very fun! Have you guys updated your bios since this post? Which works best with SLI? Im currently on 1.15 and cant seem to get x16 4.0 for both with 2 GEN 4 cables. Cant be the lanes right? Im disabling the M.2 slots.


You got your answer in another thread, but just in case someone pops in 6 years from now, the Z series of motherboards do not support 32 PCI lanes, so users will never get above x8/x8 on a Z series board, unless Intel starts including more pci lanes in the future.

There is only 16 dedicated lanes between the two PCIe x16 slots (physical length, not wired length). Slot 1 can get 16 lanes without a device in slot 2. Any device in slot two reduces slot one to x8, even if it is a single x1 device.
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2023/02/21 12:50:18 (permalink)
Would you rather me have just hopped in and posted this again? Confused at the sarcasm. Anyways. Glad to see you're still here after 6 years though big guy.
Heres #74 in the world with a 12100F. Pretty cool. Thanks for the late help bud.
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/2164426
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2023/02/21 14:10:37 (permalink)
PDXCustomPCs
Would you rather me have just hopped in and posted this again? Confused at the sarcasm. Anyways. Glad to see you're still here after 6 years though big guy.
Heres #74 in the world with a 12100F. Pretty cool. Thanks for the late help bud.
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/2164426


What sarcasm? People have been digging up threads that have been inactive for 10 plus years, and answering questions that have been sitting there unanswered for 10 years. There is no sarcasm in an answer to a question that was asked, but if you took it that way, I can’t actually help that.
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Re: PCIe Lane Distribution 2023/02/23 00:16:19 (permalink)
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Would you rather me have just hopped in and posted this again? Confused at the sarcasm. Anyways. Glad to see you're still here after 6 years though big guy.
Heres #74 in the world with a 12100F. Pretty cool. Thanks for the late help bud.
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/2164426


https://forums.evga.com/H...shed-one-m2955477.aspx

Check that out. A thread that was dormant for nearly 4 years, and someone random popped in asking for a serial number check rather than using the serial number warranty check page that tells them to contact EVGA support with a link to EVGA support.
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