ty_ger07

Red_Infern013
On the subject of "you killed your card". No. None of the users should be expected to tinker with their cards whether through software or hardware to keep the card from dying. There should be safe guards built into the card for that. And to my understand there is. So unless the guy shunt resistor mod his card to death it's not his fault. Period.

Agreed.  100%.  I have said the same in the past.
 
Regarding the responses, you have to see who those responses were posted by, and the track-record of those individuals, and then you will understand.
EVGA even acknowledged that some of their cards have an issue and EVGA even had a special exchange program implemented in order to replace problematic 3090s which had not yet failed, but one of these individuals refuses to acknowledge that some 3090s are duds and that there could be a design problem, simply because theirs has been trouble-free.  It's quite demoralizing.
 
EDIT: It appears that the user I mentioned has been banned.  That's helpful.

 
And here's where I will disagree with you.
 
*1* CARD...I will allow that it might be the card...
 
2+ Nope. Not gonna cop to that. Either the user is screwing up (ESD) or they have a problem with power feed in their system *IF* they're using a decent PSU, which I doubt.

Most of these idiots decide to use the walmart special PSU's (ie: 89 to 109 dollar PSU) to run a 2000 dollar card.
 
Again: GIGO.                                    
 
It's NOT always the cards.
 
 
Edit: Without having to 'research' my post history...I am one of those blaming people who don't know what they're doing. And I always will. Don't care if you like it or not.
 

z1nonly
 

People seem to "know what they're doing" with pretty much all the other cards.
 
 

Well the 3090 is the only 30-series graphic card that has memory chips on the back side of the PCB and get a lot hotter because of that. It's like buying a sport car. You just can't drive it on uneven roads or it will get damaged.

transdogmifier

ty_ger07

Red_Infern013
On the subject of "you killed your card". No. None of the users should be expected to tinker with their cards whether through software or hardware to keep the card from dying. There should be safe guards built into the card for that. And to my understand there is. So unless the guy shunt resistor mod his card to death it's not his fault. Period.

Agreed.  100%.  I have said the same in the past.
 
Regarding the responses, you have to see who those responses were posted by, and the track-record of those individuals, and then you will understand.
EVGA even acknowledged that some of their cards have an issue and EVGA even had a special exchange program implemented in order to replace problematic 3090s which had not yet failed, but one of these individuals refuses to acknowledge that some 3090s are duds and that there could be a design problem, simply because theirs has been trouble-free.  It's quite demoralizing.
 
EDIT: It appears that the user I mentioned has been banned.  That's helpful.

 
And here's where I will disagree with you.
 
*1* CARD...I will allow that it might be the card...
 
2+ Nope. Not gonna cop to that. Either the user is screwing up (ESD) or they have a problem with power feed in their system *IF* they're using a decent PSU, which I doubt.

Most of these idiots decide to use the walmart special PSU's (ie: 89 to 109 dollar PSU) to run a 2000 dollar card.
 
Again: GIGO.                                    
 
It's NOT always the cards.
 
 
Edit: Without having to 'research' my post history...I am one of those blaming people who don't know what they're doing. And I always will. Don't care if you like it or not.
 

Instead of talking in generalities, let's be specific. Is this user an "idiot" who used a "walmart special PSU". Nope. Did this user do something apparently wrong? Nope. So let's not blame this user.

What can you do to make these cards last longer? Just use cooling/fan? I don't want to spend $2000 on a 3090 and have it fail on me...

transdogmifier

VegasBaby
Am I just extremely unlucky with cards, or does the 3090 ftw3 ultra have an alarmingly high failure rate? I've seen many posts on here of people having to RMA their 3090 multiple times.
This is crazy. I'm not going to keep paying for shipping just to get a refurbished card not in original packaging that will die again in 2 months. Has EVGA said anything about 3090 failures and if they're working on a solution?

Can't possibly be anything but the card, right?

3 cards.....and you think it's the cards.
*golf clap*

 
Many people in the forum have had issues with two or three EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 cards when using good quality highly rated power supplies and other hardware more than capable of handling a 3090 and the rest of their components. Yet you keep blaming the end user when many people have the exact same issue that easily reproducible just because you might have bene lucky enough to get one working card.
 

transdogmifier
And here's where I will disagree with you.
*1* CARD...I will allow that it might be the card...
2+ Nope. Not gonna cop to that. Either the user is screwing up (ESD) or they have a problem with power feed in their system *IF* they're using a decent PSU, which I doubt.
Most of these idiots decide to use the walmart special PSU's (ie: 89 to 109 dollar PSU) to run a 2000 dollar card.
Again: GIGO.
It's NOT always the cards.

 
EVGA issued a RMA for people having problems with their 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards where the cards were replaced with a card that had a newer circuit board revision. For most of those people, the repeat problems that they had went away after they received their updated card. Yet its not an EVGA hardware problem to you?????
 
The problem with EVGA FTW3 3090 design is the circuit board is a basically reference design with an extra power connector and some extra power stages added. In addition to that, the original onboard code stated it was designed for three 8 pin power connectors and one 6 pin power connector. This was confirmed by people who pulled the code off the card with chip readers. What would happen is the card would max out the power draw through two of the 8 pin power connectors then draw more power through the PCIEx16 slot and not the thirds 8 pin PCIE connector. The PCIEx16 slot specs say a maximum power draw of 75 watts across all voltage rails. With the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra, many users were reporting 85-90 watts power draw through the PCIEx16 slot just on the 12v rail alone.
 
Here is the short version of my experience with EVGA FEW3 Ultra 3090 cards. The first one had a BISO switch that didn't work. The next two constantly crashed with any DX11 game or DX11 graphics benchmark.
 
I've been building custom PCs for both gamers and business clients since the 1990s. I have NEVER had multiple failures of the same model graphics card before my issues with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. I've had 10 different RTX 3090 cards in my hands since release. The EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra was the only one I had multiple repeat issues with.
 
I had the same issue with the 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards in three different computers with multiple different EVGA and Seasonic power supplies. I had the same problems with both current and new installs of Windows 10 with the latest drivers. In both systems with all of the power supplies I replicated the exact same issue time and time again. I spent many hours troubleshooting the issue on my own and with EVGA support.  I tried different hardware combinations and different EVGA card BIOS versions at the instruction of EVGA support.
 
I tried my own Seasonic and EVGA power supplies, including having a single 1300 watt EVGA G2 or 1300 watt Seasonic Prime Platinum power supply dedicated to power only the card and a separate power supply for the rest of the system. Yet I still had the same issues. I guess a 1300 Watt EVGA G2 power supply or a 1300 watt Seasonic Prime Platinum power supply are garbage and inadequate to to power a single 3090 in your opinion?
 
I tried having nothing but the CPU, two sticks of RAM, one SATA SSD, and the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra in a system with all the motherboard's onboard extra hardware disabled(expect what was needed) and a new clean install of windows 10 with the latest drivers. Yet I still had the same issues with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra.
 
Know what fixed the issue? Swapping in a MSI Gaming X Trio 3090. After that all of the problems went away. I then flashed the 450 watt MSI 3090 Suprim BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still No problems. Next I tried flashing the the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 450 watt BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still no problems. After that, I tried flashing the the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 500 watt XOC BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still no problems. In addition to that, I tried both the 520 watt Kingpin "LN2" BIOS and the 1000 watt Kingpin XOC BIOS on the Gaming X trio. Still not problems even when overclocking the Gaming X Trio and pulling 600-700 watts through the three PCIE 8 pin connectors while using the same power supply that I was using when the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra was constantly crashing.  Must be a garbage power supply I guess.
 
I also tried a 3090 Strix in the same system with the Strix 480 watt BIOS, the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 500 watt XOC BIOS, and the 520 watt Kingpin "LN2" BIOS. No problems with that card and any of the BIOS versions in the same system where the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra was constantly crashing, especially in DX11 games.
Since then I've tried two RTX 3090 Kingpin cards in the same systems without issues.
 
Know what was the common factor in all of the problems in all of the systems? The EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra card. That was the issue, yet you don't believe it was the card.
 

transdogmifier
Edit: Without having to 'research' my post history...I am one of those blaming people who don't know what they're doing. And I always will. Don't care if you like it or not.

 
Actually you are nothing but a forum troll at this point. You constantly blame, belittle, tease, and taunt people having legitimate problems with EVGA's hardware just to make yourself feel better. What is going on in your life that makes you want to treat others poorly?
 
 
 
 
 

bavor

transdogmifier

VegasBaby
Am I just extremely unlucky with cards, or does the 3090 ftw3 ultra have an alarmingly high failure rate? I've seen many posts on here of people having to RMA their 3090 multiple times.
This is crazy. I'm not going to keep paying for shipping just to get a refurbished card not in original packaging that will die again in 2 months. Has EVGA said anything about 3090 failures and if they're working on a solution?

Can't possibly be anything but the card, right?

3 cards.....and you think it's the cards.
*golf clap*

 
Many people in the forum have had issues with two or three EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 cards when using good quality highly rated power supplies and other hardware more than capable of handling a 3090 and the rest of their components. Yet you keep blaming the end user when many people have the exact same issue that easily reproducible just because you might have bene lucky enough to get one working card.
 

transdogmifier
And here's where I will disagree with you.
*1* CARD...I will allow that it might be the card...
2+ Nope. Not gonna cop to that. Either the user is screwing up (ESD) or they have a problem with power feed in their system *IF* they're using a decent PSU, which I doubt.
Most of these idiots decide to use the walmart special PSU's (ie: 89 to 109 dollar PSU) to run a 2000 dollar card.
Again: GIGO.
It's NOT always the cards.

 
EVGA issued a RMA for people having problems with their 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards where the cards were replaced with a card that had a newer circuit board revision. For most of those people, the repeat problems that they had went away after they received their updated card. Yet its not an EVGA hardware problem to you?????
 
The problem with EVGA FTW3 3090 design is the circuit board is a basically reference design with an extra power connector and some extra power stages added. In addition to that, the original onboard code stated it was designed for three 8 pin power connectors and one 6 pin power connector. This was confirmed by people who pulled the code off the card with chip readers. What would happen is the card would max out the power draw through two of the 8 pin power connectors then draw more power through the PCIEx16 slot and not the thirds 8 pin PCIE connector. The PCIEx16 slot specs say a maximum power draw of 75 watts across all voltage rails. With the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra, many users were reporting 85-90 watts power draw through the PCIEx16 slot just on the 12v rail alone.
 
Here is the short version of my experience with EVGA FEW3 Ultra 3090 cards. The first one had a BISO switch that didn't work. The next two constantly crashed with any DX11 game or DX11 graphics benchmark.
 
I've been building custom PCs for both gamers and business clients since the 1990s. I have NEVER had multiple failures of the same model graphics card before my issues with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. I've had 10 different RTX 3090 cards in my hands since release. The EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra was the only one I had multiple repeat issues with.
 
I had the same issue with the 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards in three different computers with multiple different EVGA and Seasonic power supplies. I had the same problems with both current and new installs of Windows 10 with the latest drivers. In both systems with all of the power supplies I replicated the exact same issue time and time again. I spent many hours troubleshooting the issue on my own and with EVGA support.  I tried different hardware combinations and different EVGA card BIOS versions at the instruction of EVGA support.
 
I tried my own Seasonic and EVGA power supplies, including having a single 1300 watt EVGA G2 or 1300 watt Seasonic Prime Platinum power supply dedicated to power only the card and a separate power supply for the rest of the system. Yet I still had the same issues. I guess a 1300 Watt EVGA G2 power supply or a 1300 watt Seasonic Prime Platinum power supply are garbage and inadequate to to power a single 3090 in your opinion?
 
I tried having nothing but the CPU, two sticks of RAM, one SATA SSD, and the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra in a system with all the motherboard's onboard extra hardware disabled(expect what was needed) and a new clean install of windows 10 with the latest drivers. Yet I still had the same issues with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra.
 
Know what fixed the issue? Swapping in a MSI Gaming X Trio 3090. After that all of the problems went away. I then flashed the 450 watt MSI 3090 Suprim BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still No problems. Next I tried flashing the the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 450 watt BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still no problems. After that, I tried flashing the the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 500 watt XOC BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still no problems. In addition to that, I tried both the 520 watt Kingpin "LN2" BIOS and the 1000 watt Kingpin XOC BIOS on the Gaming X trio. Still not problems even when overclocking the Gaming X Trio and pulling 600-700 watts through the three PCIE 8 pin connectors while using the same power supply that I was using when the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra was constantly crashing.  Must be a garbage power supply I guess.
 
I also tried a 3090 Strix in the same system with the Strix 480 watt BIOS, the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 500 watt XOC BIOS, and the 520 watt Kingpin "LN2" BIOS. No problems with that card and any of the BIOS versions in the same system where the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra was constantly crashing, especially in DX11 games.
Since then I've tried two RTX 3090 Kingpin cards in the same systems without issues.
 
Know what was the common factor in all of the problems in all of the systems? The EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra card. That was the issue, yet you don't believe it was the card.
 

transdogmifier
Edit: Without having to 'research' my post history...I am one of those blaming people who don't know what they're doing. And I always will. Don't care if you like it or not.

 
Actually you are nothing but a forum troll at this point. You constantly blame, belittle, tease, and taunt people having legitimate problems with EVGA's hardware just to make yourself feel better. What is going on in your life that makes you want to treat others poorly?
 
 
 
 
 

Great post. I went through 3 RMAs until I finally got the revised PCB on my 3090 ftw3 hybrid. And guess what? No more issues. Everything else stayed the same. No more black screens no more red lights. Yet somehow some fanboys always blame the users. I'm just thankful EVGA did things right with the revised PCB and they even did free of charge RMAs after the first one.

bavor

transdogmifier

VegasBaby
Am I just extremely unlucky with cards, or does the 3090 ftw3 ultra have an alarmingly high failure rate? I've seen many posts on here of people having to RMA their 3090 multiple times.
This is crazy. I'm not going to keep paying for shipping just to get a refurbished card not in original packaging that will die again in 2 months. Has EVGA said anything about 3090 failures and if they're working on a solution?

Can't possibly be anything but the card, right?

3 cards.....and you think it's the cards.
*golf clap*

 
Many people in the forum have had issues with two or three EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 cards when using good quality highly rated power supplies and other hardware more than capable of handling a 3090 and the rest of their components. Yet you keep blaming the end user when many people have the exact same issue that easily reproducible just because you might have bene lucky enough to get one working card.
 

transdogmifier
And here's where I will disagree with you.
*1* CARD...I will allow that it might be the card...
2+ Nope. Not gonna cop to that. Either the user is screwing up (ESD) or they have a problem with power feed in their system *IF* they're using a decent PSU, which I doubt.
Most of these idiots decide to use the walmart special PSU's (ie: 89 to 109 dollar PSU) to run a 2000 dollar card.
Again: GIGO.
It's NOT always the cards.

 
EVGA issued a RMA for people having problems with their 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards where the cards were replaced with a card that had a newer circuit board revision. For most of those people, the repeat problems that they had went away after they received their updated card. Yet its not an EVGA hardware problem to you?????
 
The problem with EVGA FTW3 3090 design is the circuit board is a basically reference design with an extra power connector and some extra power stages added. In addition to that, the original onboard code stated it was designed for three 8 pin power connectors and one 6 pin power connector. This was confirmed by people who pulled the code off the card with chip readers. What would happen is the card would max out the power draw through two of the 8 pin power connectors then draw more power through the PCIEx16 slot and not the thirds 8 pin PCIE connector. The PCIEx16 slot specs say a maximum power draw of 75 watts across all voltage rails. With the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra, many users were reporting 85-90 watts power draw through the PCIEx16 slot just on the 12v rail alone.
 
Here is the short version of my experience with EVGA FEW3 Ultra 3090 cards. The first one had a BISO switch that didn't work. The next two constantly crashed with any DX11 game or DX11 graphics benchmark.
 
I've been building custom PCs for both gamers and business clients since the 1990s. I have NEVER had multiple failures of the same model graphics card before my issues with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. I've had 10 different RTX 3090 cards in my hands since release. The EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra was the only one I had multiple repeat issues with.
 
I had the same issue with the 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards in three different computers with multiple different EVGA and Seasonic power supplies. I had the same problems with both current and new installs of Windows 10 with the latest drivers. In both systems with all of the power supplies I replicated the exact same issue time and time again. I spent many hours troubleshooting the issue on my own and with EVGA support.  I tried different hardware combinations and different EVGA card BIOS versions at the instruction of EVGA support.
 
I tried my own Seasonic and EVGA power supplies, including having a single 1300 watt EVGA G2 or 1300 watt Seasonic Prime Platinum power supply dedicated to power only the card and a separate power supply for the rest of the system. Yet I still had the same issues. I guess a 1300 Watt EVGA G2 power supply or a 1300 watt Seasonic Prime Platinum power supply are garbage and inadequate to to power a single 3090 in your opinion?
 
I tried having nothing but the CPU, two sticks of RAM, one SATA SSD, and the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra in a system with all the motherboard's onboard extra hardware disabled(expect what was needed) and a new clean install of windows 10 with the latest drivers. Yet I still had the same issues with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra.
 
Know what fixed the issue? Swapping in a MSI Gaming X Trio 3090. After that all of the problems went away. I then flashed the 450 watt MSI 3090 Suprim BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still No problems. Next I tried flashing the the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 450 watt BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still no problems. After that, I tried flashing the the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 500 watt XOC BIOS to the Gaming X Trio. Still no problems. In addition to that, I tried both the 520 watt Kingpin "LN2" BIOS and the 1000 watt Kingpin XOC BIOS on the Gaming X trio. Still not problems even when overclocking the Gaming X Trio and pulling 600-700 watts through the three PCIE 8 pin connectors while using the same power supply that I was using when the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra was constantly crashing.  Must be a garbage power supply I guess.
 
I also tried a 3090 Strix in the same system with the Strix 480 watt BIOS, the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra 500 watt XOC BIOS, and the 520 watt Kingpin "LN2" BIOS. No problems with that card and any of the BIOS versions in the same system where the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra was constantly crashing, especially in DX11 games.
Since then I've tried two RTX 3090 Kingpin cards in the same systems without issues.
 
Know what was the common factor in all of the problems in all of the systems? The EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 ultra card. That was the issue, yet you don't believe it was the card.
 

transdogmifier
Edit: Without having to 'research' my post history...I am one of those blaming people who don't know what they're doing. And I always will. Don't care if you like it or not.

 
Actually you are nothing but a forum troll at this point. You constantly blame, belittle, tease, and taunt people having legitimate problems with EVGA's hardware just to make yourself feel better. What is going on in your life that makes you want to treat others poorly?
 
 
 
 
 

But his eVga FTW3 3090 Ultra and mine as well have lasted longer since we still have the first card we bought that is still running without any issues period. I bet there are other people here also with their first 3090 card and ones that never visit this forum period. I had mine for 8 months coming this Sunday the 27th. I have redid the aircooler, hybrid and waterblock twice and now I will do the waterblock 3rd time when I get this from EK https://www.ekwb.com/shop...backplate-d-rgb-plexi.

ty_ger07

badboy64
 
But his eVga FTW3 3090 Ultra and mine as well have lasted longer since we still have the first card we bought that is still running without any issues period.

Good for you.  Why do you keep saying that in thread after thread as if it has any impact on people who have had problems with those cards?  All you did was create a giant quote needlessly and contributed nothing else to this conversation.

I haven't said it for the last 4 + months. If you don't like what I say then use the ignore button then. I will keep on saying as long as I have my 1st card. He has also repeated what he said in his quote many times over himself.

answer is very easy they use it for mining

GTA767
answer is very easy they use it for mining

Nope, no mining use here.  Try again.