so yeah like like the title says i heard nvidia is making 1650 cards to sell is this true? what is the performance like it can't be better than a 1080 or is it.

well I got my name on a couple of 2060 notifies and a 1650 notify we will see what happens

i had a 1650 super before the 1080 SC and the 1650 super was not far behind in FPS. It was a dell OEM 1650 super also.  I have a HP omen on the way pretty much to part it out and take the 3070 for myself.  

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  The new 1650/1660's with GDDR6 ( About 6% faster than the original version with GDDR5 ) are decent 1080p gaming cards when anything more is unavailable--As to whether or not better than the 1080ti with it's wider bus and more but slower VRAM it'll depend on many variables, and if also you only want to look at synthetic benchmarks or actual real world gaming results since some game code/optimization is better than others.  I think the 1080ti wins here overall, but I'm thinking it's more likely the 1650's & -60's are more likely to be coming to this market since supply chain logistics and production probably quicker and higher profit margin.  Hopefully the entire market gets better soon!

Just no. The 1080 Ti is literally over double the performance of a 1650. 
 


You can read other examples from other outlets. It won't change the results. The 1650 is barely a 1080p if you like eye candy. Meanwhile, I can play Division 2 4K 75% scaling with all ultra settings except AA and not drop below 60 FPS. I mean if you have nothing, this would get you by but... wow. Folks need to be patient until the manufacturing and world markets stabilize. It's going to be months yet.  I've thought about going SLI again but the prices for used 1080 Ti's are absurd.

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VirtualUnreality
  The new 1650/1660's with GDDR6 ( About 6% faster than the original version with GDDR5 ) are decent 1080p gaming cards when anything more is unavailable--As to whether or not better than the 1080ti with it's wider bus and more but slower VRAM it'll depend on many variables, and if also you only want to look at synthetic benchmarks or actual real world gaming results since some game code/optimization is better than others.  I think the 1080ti wins here overall, but I'm thinking it's more likely the 1650's & -60's are more likely to be coming to this market since supply chain logistics and production probably quicker and higher profit margin.  Hopefully the entire market gets better soon!

Just no. The 1080 Ti is literally over double the performance of a 1650. 
 


You can read other examples from other outlets. It won't change the results. The 1650 is barely a 1080p if you like eye candy. Meanwhile, I can play Division 2 4K 75% scaling with all ultra settings except AA and not drop below 60 FPS. I mean if you have nothing, this would get you by but... wow. Folks need to be patient until the manufacturing and world markets stabilize. It's going to be months yet.  I've thought about going SLI again but the prices for used 1080 Ti's are absurd.

You're definitely right, a GTX16xx series is not the equal of the GTX10XXti, and FPS is over double between the two cards mentioned.   I absolutely agree, prices for used 1080 Ti's ( And all other cards, used or new ) are absurd in this market.  I also think you're correct that it will be MANY months ( or even longer unfortunately ) before manufacturing and world markets stabilize.  Wish you best of luck scoring that 2nd 1080ti at a decent price for your SLI setup!
 
"The new 1650/1660's with GDDR6 ( About 6% faster than the original version with GDDR5 ) are decent 1080p gaming cards when anything more is unavailable--As to whether or not better than the 1080ti with it's wider bus and more but slower VRAM it'll depend on many variables, and if also you only want to look at synthetic benchmarks or actual real world gaming results since some game code/optimization is better than others.  I think the 1080ti wins here overall, but I'm thinking it's more likely the 1650's & -60's are more likely to be coming to this market since supply chain logistics and production probably quicker and higher profit margin.  Hopefully the entire market gets better soon!"
 
  When I wrote many variables which was perhaps overly broad for the thread, I'm including things like other hardware limitations such as how cpu-bound the system is & etc ( It's not just GPU's in short supply, and many people been waiting more than 1 hardware gen to upgrade, and some people still have 60hz monitors... ).  I give anyone who's gotten far enough to be here and read these forum posts credit enough to grasp the price-vs-performance concept and search out both synthetic benchmarks & actual game benchmarks done by the many reputable recognized folks in the gaming and hardware world for every imaginable card/card rev. ( And often on the same bench system to actually compare apples to apples ) and thought the implication of checking benchmarks and prices was enough for the thread.  I could've been clearer/more specific; All I really meant to suggest was that of the two options, if you can't get a 1080ti ( Or other higher performing card ) at all or at the right price or if you don't have the budget, the new 16xx series may offer acceptable gaming performance ( Everyone has their individual cutoff point where it just isn't worth it to them ) for now for anyone who might otherwise pass it over due to the core vintage as not having enough oomph and not take a second look, but doesn't want to wait no-one-knows-how-much-longer-after-a-year-already!  It's a tough time to be short a GPU in a new build or have one that's out of warranty die.  On that note, I saw a B-stock GTX1660ti for $269 earlier, an RTX2060ko for $289, and about 3 different 2080ti's between $1k-1.4K so all hope is not lost for the GPU-less who don't have the budget or can't wait.  Very best of luck to everyone hunting for the best available option for now 'til we can get that awesome shiny newest hardware we all desire at something reasonably close to MSRP and without camping retailer sites and refreshing for months to get the add-to-cart button to do so! 
 

It would kind of be surprising to see more 1650 come out since the problem seems to be getting chips made so adding another chip even an older one still would slow production. Unless they found chips laying around already made I don’t see it happening.

Yeah, new cards will come. I heard mostly for laptops these and to have a more accessible line for.others

yes, I also heard; also 1050 and rtx 2060

16 series are technically still in production

Definitely don't get your hopes up but believe it will come one day. I'm really excited though as I trust EVGA very much.