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FTW cards are nice in terms of their cooling solution, but they come with such a big negative: Precision X1. I bought the 2080Ti FTW3 even though it was one of the most expensive models, because I thought its the perfect enthusiast GPU, with the best components and tweaking options. By tweaking, I mean the user could customize the card as he likes, including overclocking, undervolting, fan control, etc. Throught the years, I have used MSI Afterburner as my software of choice for GPU overclocking. Why? Not because I like MSI or anything like that, but because it worked, and once I set it to do something, it did it and it was consistent about it. When I had a Gigabyte card, I tried the Gigabyte equivalent, and it wasn't as good. When I had a Palit card, I tried the Palit equivalent, and it also wasn't as good. When I started using my FTW3 card, I finally thought "I am going to get some peace and quiet with EVGA's tool, they make the best products" - Oh, how wrong was I. And little did I know that FTW3 cards must use Precision for fan control. Every single function Precision X1 does, MSI Afterburner does better. - The UI of Precision X1 is confusing. It's hard to save and load profiles without searching for a forum post in which you finally realize that you need to click the profile, hit save, then apply. - The VF curve is absolutely useless, impossible to edit, and you can't undervolt with it. It honestly not functional. - Fan control is inconsistent. Sometimes you will apply it once and everything will work great. Other times, things that have happened to me multiple times: a) Custom fan control isn't applied automatically. b) Custom fan control is applied, but the custom profile reset to the default one on boot. c) With external fan: Precision will sometimes fail to load fan4, sometimes it will fail to load both fan3 and fan4. d) Fan hibernation doesn't work at all. - Newer versions of Precision will "ghost overclock" on load. Meaning, say you shut your computer down for the night, wake up in the morning, load precision, and check that the overclock profile was automatically applied, as it should. You see the sliders are at zero, making you think "bah, I don't know how to get my options to load on boot". But then you go and check GPU-Z and you see overclock is in fact applied, its Precision that is not showing it. - The monitoring on Precision X1 is so-so, the time window is smaller, you have less monitoring options. - The only positive thing I can about Precision is that LED control works and stays even after shutting Precision down. I mean, selecting colors based on a Paint template from Windows 95 isn't exactly indulging, but it works. So at this point, you could say "OK Afterburner fanboy, just use it and stop bashing Precision". Like I said, this is what I've done with my old Gigabyte and Palit cards. So why is this card different? well, that's because the fan control on the FTW3 is only possible through Precision X1. Meaning, I have to choose: Either I have fan control and be forced to live with the shortcomings of Precision (lack of undervolting and bugs), OR I give up on fan control but at least get a tweaking software that is reliable. And you know what, I chose the latter. I'd rather have a software that works and be irritated by the fans on my FTW3 turning on and off at borderline loads, than use Precision. Just to add to this fan control thing, my old Palit Gamerock card had individual control on its two fans. But guess what, with MSI Afterburner, you could still control both fans. If Palit can get it right, why can't EVGA? To summarize, I'm an unhappy FTW3 card owner because I think Precision is too buggy and lacking in functions. I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't. For that reason, when someone asks me if they should get an FTW3 card, I just tell them expect great hardware, but bad software - pass.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 08:12:27
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I'll agree with a lot of those criticisms of X1.
Before Precision used to be a reskin of Afterburner and I'm not sure what happened. Precison was at itcs best as an Afterburner reskin.
For me the biggest deal breaker is the OSD.
The Precision OSD is garbage compared to what I can do with RTSS and Afterburner with the HWinfo.
And how the UI/UX is setup is ineffective and hard to use.
What's most frustrating is it seems like EVGA ignores these deficiencies. It feels there's no effort to make Precision actually useful and usable.
Precison needs an overhaul woth Afterburner being used as the minimum standard.
Precison needs to do at least everything Afterburner can do at a bare minimum or it simply won't compete.
The only reason to use Precison is for RGB control and to use boost lock if I want to see how high I can get my 3D Mark scores.
For every day daily driver OC use Afterburner ia still the gold standard.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 08:28:59
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want RGB control for your EVGA keyboard and mouse? individual software (EVGA Unleash RGB) want control over your graphics card fans/powerlimit/core clocks/ect? individual software (Precision X1) want to overclock your CPU or memory in OS to eek out the last bits of performance with your EVGA mobo? individual software (Eleet X1 & Precision XOC) want to modify sound settings and profiles for your EVGA audio card? individual software ( NU audio)
have an EVGA case or AIO? individual software for each ( Flow Control & DG Tuner)
and theyre ALL the EXACT SAME UI in most instances. it should be a no brainer to get these all working and consolidated into ONE PROGRAM.
alot of EVGAs hardware is extremely nice, but the software side of things leaves alot to be desired. and to piggyback on what the OP has said.. Precision X1 was mediocre to use during turing's generation, but with ampere its been downright terrible.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 14:22:25
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No kidding. I actually was talking to someone from EVGA on here and it's unbelievable how they want to blame things other than their software. Guy told me to check the event viewer when my RGB resets and my 4th extension fan stops. Thinks it the Nvidia driver crashing. There wasn't even anything related to at in the event viewer the last time it happened.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 14:36:19
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Yep and yep on everything you stated! As we've discussed in my thread, getting the fan speed to work properly is an exercise in frustration! The fan speed will not load when I have "Start with OS" and "Apply previous settings on load" enabled in SETUP. When PX1 is reloaded everything loads up automatically correctly except the fan speed. It doesn't load at all, so I have to manually load the profile to get the fan speed to apply. I've gotten it to work a few times but there is no rhyme or reason why it does sometimes.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 14:55:42
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I could at least get the fan profile to load at start up. But ever since 1.1.6, my RGB profile would randomly reset itself to rainbow-puke mode at least once a day. Now with 1.1.8, the 4th fan stops working along with the RGB crashing/defaulting. Only instead of about once a day, it's crashed 4 times in the last 24 hours already! And with the stupid way EVGA ties their program with the firmware means you can't even roll back to a working version.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 17:39:28
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Well it let me roll back to 1.1.7 which didn't give me the fan problems previously. I'm not convinced the problem is only with Precision but also with the firmware 1.1.8 flashed to my card. So I'm hopeful but still have my doubts.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 19:30:11
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Nope, just crashed again on 1.1.7 and it still took out my 4th fan.
Seriously, is this entire forum dead? Maybe Afterburner works with custom fan curves now...
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 20:33:16
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yoadknux FTW cards are nice in terms of their cooling solution, but they come with such a big negative: Precision X1. I bought the 2080Ti FTW3 even though it was one of the most expensive models, because I thought its the perfect enthusiast GPU, with the best components and tweaking options. By tweaking, I mean the user could customize the card as he likes, including overclocking, undervolting, fan control, etc. Throught the years, I have used MSI Afterburner as my software of choice for GPU overclocking. Why? Not because I like MSI or anything like that, but because it worked, and once I set it to do something, it did it and it was consistent about it. When I had a Gigabyte card, I tried the Gigabyte equivalent, and it wasn't as good. When I had a Palit card, I tried the Palit equivalent, and it also wasn't as good. When I started using my FTW3 card, I finally thought "I am going to get some peace and quiet with EVGA's tool, they make the best products" - Oh, how wrong was I. And little did I know that FTW3 cards must use Precision for fan control. Every single function Precision X1 does, MSI Afterburner does better. - The UI of Precision X1 is confusing. It's hard to save and load profiles without searching for a forum post in which you finally realize that you need to click the profile, hit save, then apply. - The VF curve is absolutely useless, impossible to edit, and you can't undervolt with it. It honestly not functional. - Fan control is inconsistent. Sometimes you will apply it once and everything will work great. Other times, things that have happened to me multiple times: a) Custom fan control isn't applied automatically. b) Custom fan control is applied, but the custom profile reset to the default one on boot. c) With external fan: Precision will sometimes fail to load fan4, sometimes it will fail to load both fan3 and fan4. d) Fan hibernation doesn't work at all. - Newer versions of Precision will "ghost overclock" on load. Meaning, say you shut your computer down for the night, wake up in the morning, load precision, and check that the overclock profile was automatically applied, as it should. You see the sliders are at zero, making you think "bah, I don't know how to get my options to load on boot". But then you go and check GPU-Z and you see overclock is in fact applied, its Precision that is not showing it. - The monitoring on Precision X1 is so-so, the time window is smaller, you have less monitoring options. - The only positive thing I can about Precision is that LED control works and stays even after shutting Precision down. I mean, selecting colors based on a Paint template from Windows 95 isn't exactly indulging, but it works. So at this point, you could say "OK Afterburner fanboy, just use it and stop bashing Precision". Like I said, this is what I've done with my old Gigabyte and Palit cards. So why is this card different? well, that's because the fan control on the FTW3 is only possible through Precision X1. Meaning, I have to choose: Either I have fan control and be forced to live with the shortcomings of Precision (lack of undervolting and bugs), OR I give up on fan control but at least get a tweaking software that is reliable. And you know what, I chose the latter. I'd rather have a software that works and be irritated by the fans on my FTW3 turning on and off at borderline loads, than use Precision. Just to add to this fan control thing, my old Palit Gamerock card had individual control on its two fans. But guess what, with MSI Afterburner, you could still control both fans. If Palit can get it right, why can't EVGA? To summarize, I'm an unhappy FTW3 card owner because I think Precision is too buggy and lacking in functions. I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't. For that reason, when someone asks me if they should get an FTW3 card, I just tell them expect great hardware, but bad software - pass.
Yes, Precision is a dismally horrible app since Unwinder left EVGA, thats a no brainer. No one is going to call you a fanboy for speaking truth. Youll find most people actually use Afterburner. I most certainly do! The only way to control your gpu fans correctly is to unplug them from the card and install extensions that go to a fan controller, like a Lamptron fc2 like ive done. I put all three on one knob, it does 45 watts per channel, all done. There are ALWAYS hax and mods you can do to get the performance you want.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/01 23:37:34
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yoadknux FTW cards are nice in terms of their cooling solution, but they come with such a big negative: Precision X1. I bought the 2080Ti FTW3 even though it was one of the most expensive models, because I thought its the perfect enthusiast GPU, with the best components and tweaking options. By tweaking, I mean the user could customize the card as he likes, including overclocking, undervolting, fan control, etc. Throught the years, I have used MSI Afterburner as my software of choice for GPU overclocking. Why? Not because I like MSI or anything like that, but because it worked, and once I set it to do something, it did it and it was consistent about it. When I had a Gigabyte card, I tried the Gigabyte equivalent, and it wasn't as good. When I had a Palit card, I tried the Palit equivalent, and it also wasn't as good. When I started using my FTW3 card, I finally thought "I am going to get some peace and quiet with EVGA's tool, they make the best products" - Oh, how wrong was I. And little did I know that FTW3 cards must use Precision for fan control. Every single function Precision X1 does, MSI Afterburner does better. - The UI of Precision X1 is confusing. It's hard to save and load profiles without searching for a forum post in which you finally realize that you need to click the profile, hit save, then apply. - The VF curve is absolutely useless, impossible to edit, and you can't undervolt with it. It honestly not functional. - Fan control is inconsistent. Sometimes you will apply it once and everything will work great. Other times, things that have happened to me multiple times: a) Custom fan control isn't applied automatically. b) Custom fan control is applied, but the custom profile reset to the default one on boot. c) With external fan: Precision will sometimes fail to load fan4, sometimes it will fail to load both fan3 and fan4. d) Fan hibernation doesn't work at all. - Newer versions of Precision will "ghost overclock" on load. Meaning, say you shut your computer down for the night, wake up in the morning, load precision, and check that the overclock profile was automatically applied, as it should. You see the sliders are at zero, making you think "bah, I don't know how to get my options to load on boot". But then you go and check GPU-Z and you see overclock is in fact applied, its Precision that is not showing it. - The monitoring on Precision X1 is so-so, the time window is smaller, you have less monitoring options. - The only positive thing I can about Precision is that LED control works and stays even after shutting Precision down. I mean, selecting colors based on a Paint template from Windows 95 isn't exactly indulging, but it works. So at this point, you could say "OK Afterburner fanboy, just use it and stop bashing Precision". Like I said, this is what I've done with my old Gigabyte and Palit cards. So why is this card different? well, that's because the fan control on the FTW3 is only possible through Precision X1. Meaning, I have to choose: Either I have fan control and be forced to live with the shortcomings of Precision (lack of undervolting and bugs), OR I give up on fan control but at least get a tweaking software that is reliable. And you know what, I chose the latter. I'd rather have a software that works and be irritated by the fans on my FTW3 turning on and off at borderline loads, than use Precision. Just to add to this fan control thing, my old Palit Gamerock card had individual control on its two fans. But guess what, with MSI Afterburner, you could still control both fans. If Palit can get it right, why can't EVGA? To summarize, I'm an unhappy FTW3 card owner because I think Precision is too buggy and lacking in functions. I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't. For that reason, when someone asks me if they should get an FTW3 card, I just tell them expect great hardware, but bad software - pass.
Yes, Precision is a dismally horrible app since Unwinder left EVGA, thats a no brainer. No one is going to call you a fanboy for speaking truth. Youll find most people actually use Afterburner. I most certainly do! The only way to control your gpu fans correctly is to unplug them from the card and install extensions that go to a fan controller, like a Lamptron fc2 like ive done. I put all three on one knob, it does 45 watts per channel, all done. There are ALWAYS hax and mods you can do to get the performance you want.
Yes, that's a good idea, I actually considered something like this. I thought about it buying 3x VGA->4 PIN PWM adapters, and either connect them to an external fan controller (like what NZXT has), or connecting them to an active fan splitter/hub that is connected to a single fan output on the GPU. Those things cost money though, each gpu->pwm is like $10, a fan controller or hub is another $20. Spending 50 bucks on getting proper fan control is meh, I gave up on this idea, the default fan curve is alright on idle and load, my only issue is that the fans constantly go on and off at borderline/capped loads, and since my GPU is vertically mounted I constantly see and hear it.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/11 01:44:00
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Just wanted to sign this. Without repeating all the above, i also had all sorts of issues since november with my 3080, and big part of that was PX1. Several weeks ago i simply uninstalled PX1, and just using the card without problems. No more weird issues, and bugs to watch for. When i look at current versions of PX1, i am even more worried. The quality of the releases doesnt seem to improve.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/12 03:55:41
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With the latest version, fan profile is starting up on bootup. Progress.. EDIT... I spoke too soon. Still the same mess of fan profile not starting when the program starts. Why is this so difficult!?
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/12 04:51:27
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Nealx01 want RGB control for your EVGA keyboard and mouse? individual software (EVGA Unleash RGB) want control over your graphics card fans/powerlimit/core clocks/ect? individual software (Precision X1) want to overclock your CPU or memory in OS to eek out the last bits of performance with your EVGA mobo? individual software (Eleet X1 & Precision XOC) want to modify sound settings and profiles for your EVGA audio card? individual software ( NU audio)
have an EVGA case or AIO? individual software for each ( Flow Control & DG Tuner)
and theyre ALL the EXACT SAME UI in most instances. it should be a no brainer to get these all working and consolidated into ONE PROGRAM.
alot of EVGAs hardware is extremely nice, but the software side of things leaves alot to be desired. and to piggyback on what the OP has said.. Precision X1 was mediocre to use during turing's generation, but with ampere its been downright terrible.
On the flip side of this you end up with a lot of bloat ware if you only own an EVGA graphics card going this way since you are downloading software that is made to run a mouse, keyboard, audio card, motherboard, computer case all of which you don’t need taking up space on the hard drive.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/12 15:14:41
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yoadknux FTW cards are nice in terms of their cooling solution, but they come with such a big negative: Precision X1. I bought the 2080Ti FTW3 even though it was one of the most expensive models, because I thought its the perfect enthusiast GPU, with the best components and tweaking options. By tweaking, I mean the user could customize the card as he likes, including overclocking, undervolting, fan control, etc. Throught the years, I have used MSI Afterburner as my software of choice for GPU overclocking. Why? Not because I like MSI or anything like that, but because it worked, and once I set it to do something, it did it and it was consistent about it. When I had a Gigabyte card, I tried the Gigabyte equivalent, and it wasn't as good. When I had a Palit card, I tried the Palit equivalent, and it also wasn't as good. When I started using my FTW3 card, I finally thought "I am going to get some peace and quiet with EVGA's tool, they make the best products" - Oh, how wrong was I. And little did I know that FTW3 cards must use Precision for fan control. Every single function Precision X1 does, MSI Afterburner does better. - The UI of Precision X1 is confusing. It's hard to save and load profiles without searching for a forum post in which you finally realize that you need to click the profile, hit save, then apply. - The VF curve is absolutely useless, impossible to edit, and you can't undervolt with it. It honestly not functional. - Fan control is inconsistent. Sometimes you will apply it once and everything will work great. Other times, things that have happened to me multiple times: a) Custom fan control isn't applied automatically. b) Custom fan control is applied, but the custom profile reset to the default one on boot. c) With external fan: Precision will sometimes fail to load fan4, sometimes it will fail to load both fan3 and fan4. d) Fan hibernation doesn't work at all. - Newer versions of Precision will "ghost overclock" on load. Meaning, say you shut your computer down for the night, wake up in the morning, load precision, and check that the overclock profile was automatically applied, as it should. You see the sliders are at zero, making you think "bah, I don't know how to get my options to load on boot". But then you go and check GPU-Z and you see overclock is in fact applied, its Precision that is not showing it. - The monitoring on Precision X1 is so-so, the time window is smaller, you have less monitoring options. - The only positive thing I can about Precision is that LED control works and stays even after shutting Precision down. I mean, selecting colors based on a Paint template from Windows 95 isn't exactly indulging, but it works. So at this point, you could say "OK Afterburner fanboy, just use it and stop bashing Precision". Like I said, this is what I've done with my old Gigabyte and Palit cards. So why is this card different? well, that's because the fan control on the FTW3 is only possible through Precision X1. Meaning, I have to choose: Either I have fan control and be forced to live with the shortcomings of Precision (lack of undervolting and bugs), OR I give up on fan control but at least get a tweaking software that is reliable. And you know what, I chose the latter. I'd rather have a software that works and be irritated by the fans on my FTW3 turning on and off at borderline loads, than use Precision. Just to add to this fan control thing, my old Palit Gamerock card had individual control on its two fans. But guess what, with MSI Afterburner, you could still control both fans. If Palit can get it right, why can't EVGA? To summarize, I'm an unhappy FTW3 card owner because I think Precision is too buggy and lacking in functions. I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't. For that reason, when someone asks me if they should get an FTW3 card, I just tell them expect great hardware, but bad software - pass.
Jeez... I second every single word. Thanks for putting it out. I also have the same problems and use afterburner because of undervolting and frequency locking (and because it just works without problems). Unfortunately I need to open PX1 to adjust the third and fourth fan every damn time. Sorry, EVGA. I tried to use old Precision OC and it sucked hard, now PX1 is exactly the same piece of garbage. Please aim for nothing but excellence like you do with your hardware, is all we're asking.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/12 15:16:31
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Noticeably absent is response from evga ...
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/12 16:49:53
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I would agree. Afterburner >> Precision X1.
Would not expect a response from EVGA ... as they would probably agree, and agreeing publicly would not look too good.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/14 04:31:14
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yoadknux I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't.
I agree with everything about PX1. I stopped using precision when they changed over from Unwinders version. I have used MSI Afterburner ever since. I have a 3090 FTW3 and Afterburner works just fine with it. I am not missing any features. I have never installed PX1 and have no issues. I just wonder why you cannot control the fans with AB? It works fine for me.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/14 05:21:26
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kelkel1 Noticeably absent is response from evga ...
Considering this is primarily a user driven forum with rare posts by eVGA engineers and technicians, I'm hardly surprised. While I concur that Precision X1 needs a lot of work, and that they should offer an 'all in one' solution for those who want it, I'm fine with multiple pieces of software for individual components too. I don't have an eVGA keyboard...why would I want the software for it? I prefer slim and trim apps. Regardless....they have a small amount of programmers (it is after all a small company, to be fair).....I'm willing to cut them some slack, to a point ...tho it's past the point on PX1 ;) They do need to fix it properly.....I still have issues with it randomly deciding not to apply last settings for things (like the LEDs ..I like them set to be certain colors for temp..but it constantly goes back to the rainbow puke crap)...
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/14 06:56:23
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yoadknux I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't.
I agree with everything about PX1. I stopped using precision when they changed over from Unwinders version. I have used MSI Afterburner ever since. I have a 3090 FTW3 and Afterburner works just fine with it. I am not missing any features. I have never installed PX1 and have no issues. I just wonder why you cannot control the fans with AB? It works fine for me.
Has been like that on 10 and 20 series FTW3 cards. MSI Afterburner fan control will only affect fan1. Two months ago a new version of Afterburner was released that is supposed to support fan control on FTW3 cards, but I have only seen reports of 30 cards working with it, in my case it made no difference Madrok With the latest version, fan profile is starting up on bootup. Progress..
I thought so too, although today when I started my PC, fan2 was off (not detected by Precision) & fan 1+fan3 were on 40%. It was fixed when I rebooted the app.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/14 12:11:38
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yoadknux I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't.
I agree with everything about PX1. I stopped using precision when they changed over from Unwinders version. I have used MSI Afterburner ever since. I have a 3090 FTW3 and Afterburner works just fine with it. I am not missing any features. I have never installed PX1 and have no issues. I just wonder why you cannot control the fans with AB? It works fine for me.
Has been like that on 10 and 20 series FTW3 cards. MSI Afterburner fan control will only affect fan1. Two months ago a new version of Afterburner was released that is supposed to support fan control on FTW3 cards, but I have only seen reports of 30 cards working with it, in my case it made no difference
I didn't have FTW cards for either the 10 or 20 series so I don't know about those. I had the XC cards and they worked fine with AB. But the new AB 4.6.4 Beta 2 definitely works for me with all fans. I was using a few betas that weren't available on the main download site before that so maybe I had an early fix but my fans have worked since I got the card. But I am sorry you are having issues. I don't know what else to say other then download 4.6.4 B2 and give it a shot. Good luck!
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/15 01:05:53
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yoadknux I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't.
I agree with everything about PX1. I stopped using precision when they changed over from Unwinders version. I have used MSI Afterburner ever since. I have a 3090 FTW3 and Afterburner works just fine with it. I am not missing any features. I have never installed PX1 and have no issues. I just wonder why you cannot control the fans with AB? It works fine for me.
Has been like that on 10 and 20 series FTW3 cards. MSI Afterburner fan control will only affect fan1. Two months ago a new version of Afterburner was released that is supposed to support fan control on FTW3 cards, but I have only seen reports of 30 cards working with it, in my case it made no difference
I didn't have FTW cards for either the 10 or 20 series so I don't know about those. I had the XC cards and they worked fine with AB. But the new AB 4.6.4 Beta 2 definitely works for me with all fans. I was using a few betas that weren't available on the main download site before that so maybe I had an early fix but my fans have worked since I got the card. But I am sorry you are having issues. I don't know what else to say other then download 4.6.4 B2 and give it a shot. Good luck!
Thanks for trying to help. I tried this 4.6.4 B2 and it still controls only the first fan for me. I think it only supports 30 series FTW3 cards. In my case I think my only option is to buy splitters and/or adapters to connect all three fans into the FAN1 header. OR, the other option is to have a reliable, bug-free Precision X1 to control the fans as was originally intended...
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/15 05:37:29
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I agree to every single complaint here. Most people use Afterburner. Sadly, that only controls one fan. The center on my 1080 Ti FTW3 and the first on a 1080 Ti SC. PX1 is useless unless you're changing LED colors or monitoring the iCX sensors. The best advice I can offer is to use Afterburner with a fan curve setting with a slow buildup before the GPU would leave its passive state. Then you have a little static fan noise before the second/third fan(s) came on and it should be far less noticeable.
I'd guess EVGA made PX1 as a 'good enough' solution. Most use Afterburner. EVGA's accepted it as such.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/15 14:39:33
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yoadknux
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yoadknux I would be fine if it could still be fully used with Afterburner, but it can't.
I agree with everything about PX1. I stopped using precision when they changed over from Unwinders version. I have used MSI Afterburner ever since. I have a 3090 FTW3 and Afterburner works just fine with it. I am not missing any features. I have never installed PX1 and have no issues. I just wonder why you cannot control the fans with AB? It works fine for me.
Has been like that on 10 and 20 series FTW3 cards. MSI Afterburner fan control will only affect fan1. Two months ago a new version of Afterburner was released that is supposed to support fan control on FTW3 cards, but I have only seen reports of 30 cards working with it, in my case it made no difference
I didn't have FTW cards for either the 10 or 20 series so I don't know about those. I had the XC cards and they worked fine with AB. But the new AB 4.6.4 Beta 2 definitely works for me with all fans. I was using a few betas that weren't available on the main download site before that so maybe I had an early fix but my fans have worked since I got the card. But I am sorry you are having issues. I don't know what else to say other then download 4.6.4 B2 and give it a shot. Good luck!
Thanks for trying to help. I tried this 4.6.4 B2 and it still controls only the first fan for me. I think it only supports 30 series FTW3 cards. In my case I think my only option is to buy splitters and/or adapters to connect all three fans into the FAN1 header. OR, the other option is to have a reliable, bug-free Precision X1 to control the fans as was originally intended...
Sorry man. Strange it would work with 30 series FTW but not 20 series FTW. But yes I agree about PX1. It should just work as intended. It honestly has just never been good since Unwinder stopped providing the code for it. His software is just always stable. I know EVGA has really tried over the years with their software but it seems it always buggy and unreliable. As an alternative I would say maybe bring up the issue in the guru3D forums. Maybe Unwinder can help getting it work with Afterburner. The author of the software is at least on the forums over there. Good luck man, this just sucks.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/15 14:52:19
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Mr. Nicolaychuk said, when asked on the Guru3D forum, that Afterburner would not support three fans. Frankly, the man may be talented, but he does not respond well to the slightest criticism.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/15 15:00:10
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kelkel1 Mr. Nicolaychuk said, when asked on the Guru3D forum, that Afterburner would not support three fans. Frankly, the man may be talented, but he does not respond well to the slightest criticism.
LOL I didn't know he was asked already. And yes I agree he doesn't take any feedback very well at all. Probably why EVGA isn't partnered with him anymore. But he does make great software for Nvidia cards and no one else seems to be able to. I thought maybe he'd be okay with adding a feature since it wouldn't be a criticism, but I guess not. Can't say I'm surprised though.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/15 18:06:58
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Precision X1 has perhaps the worst QA of any software out there. Bugs on literally every release.
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/16 19:18:28
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kelkel1 Mr. Nicolaychuk said, when asked on the Guru3D forum, that Afterburner would not support three fans. Frankly, the man may be talented, but he does not respond well to the slightest criticism.
LOL I didn't know he was asked already. And yes I agree he doesn't take any feedback very well at all. Probably why EVGA isn't partnered with him anymore. But he does make great software for Nvidia cards and no one else seems to be able to. I thought maybe he'd be okay with adding a feature since it wouldn't be a criticism, but I guess not. Can't say I'm surprised though.
Recently I made a topic at Guru3D forums asking exactly for that and, in his own words: "It won't support propiertary fan control solutions. NVIDIA reference design do not assume controlling more than 2 fans." So, that's it... It probably will never support more than 2 fans. :( But, if so, I wonder how it manages the three fans on MSI boards...
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/22 11:34:41
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The execs at EVGA need to see this thread...
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Re: EVGA needs to stop pretending Precision X1 is fine
2021/04/22 12:43:37
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Guess they haven't recovered from the aftermath of being accused of stealing Unwinders code, leading them no choice but to code a "Frankenstein" knock off....
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