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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 07:35:19
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EVGA Asia is the one handling stock for Europe right? I'm guessing they're just selling everything straight to miners right now with no cards making it over here at all.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 07:41:39
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EVGA Asia is the one handling stock for Europe right? I'm guessing they're just selling everything straight to miners right now with no cards making it over here at all.
The past 2 weeks have been the best in movements for the EU queues actually.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 07:47:32
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I am sure that they are not selling "everything" to miners, since my 3090 is actually in shipment right now from EVGA Taiwan/Hong Kong to Germany. They are working on the queue slowly, but they are actually working on it. Though it is still possible that a bigger part of the stock is sold to miners...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 08:12:54
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Decided to post my entry too. It's definitely going to be long wait. 08G-P5-3667-KR 1/9/2021 1:39:13 AM PT Edit: sorry wrong thread, thought I was reading 3060 one
post edited by JaakVL - 2021/01/26 08:15:10
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 08:39:22
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Good evening everyone,
Does anyone have some information concerning the availability of the Hydro Copper variant for the 3080 in Europe?
Thanks in advance
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 10:57:03
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JaakVL
Decided to post my entry too. It's definitely going to be long wait.
08G-P5-3667-KR 1/9/2021 1:39:13 AM PT
Edit: sorry wrong thread, thought I was reading 3060 one
I am monitoring both threads, your information is safe
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 12:18:12
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MarcSam
Good evening everyone,
Does anyone have some information concerning the availability of the Hydro Copper variant for the 3080 in Europe?
Thanks in advance
I was under the impression the HC models were delayed in the US as well. Well... the EU shop is not listing anything water related at the moment, you can either wait until they become available on the shop or try the official retailers.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 13:00:06
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I was under the impression the HC models were delayed in the US as well.
Well... the EU shop is not listing anything water related at the moment, you can either wait until they become available on the shop or try the official retailers.
Thank you very much for the update sir.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/26 15:07:39
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Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues.
Recent moves are in bold.
Yes, we have a daily move today, 2 more minutes into the 3070 FTW3 Ultra
Name SKU Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:37:04 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:17:13 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 03:00:33
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And just right now, there was an increase in price for the graphics cards on the eu.evga website
Kinda wondering why... definitely not customs
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 03:10:47
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And with this, we are back to the not so good exchange rate for EUR-USD.
3080 is 880 dollars. Now that is 772 euro for us. That is a 0,875 rate, instead of the correct 0,82.
Well, we had like 2 weeks of normal exhange, because of the custom changes for NA.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 03:36:20
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 that's not the best news.paying a bit more still beats 35% markup. but does it really matter? at the current dropspeed most of us won't see a card in the next 2-4 years. who knows how many custom changes hit us in the meantime 
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 03:49:42
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that's not the best news.paying a bit more still beats 35% markup.
but does it really matter? at the current dropspeed most of us won't see a card in the next 2-4 years. who knows how many custom changes hit us in the meantime
LOL - it does feel like that alright! I think the price increase is down to tariff increase out of China/Taiwan (speculating) as we saw similar conversations and price hikes on the north american site. What we don't know of course is if EVGA will also honor the practice that they outlined in the NA site that they would honor the original price, for people on the queue up until mid-April, as in if you get called for your card before April. So we may have a window to get the cards at the previously advertised price. Personally, while it's been a crap fest of a release from Nvidia, I've heard that they have implemented a number of initiatives to boost production. a) I mentioned it above, but they are re-introducing the 2600/2600Super cards. While this doesn't help people waiting for high end cards directly, it may take away some users who just want "some" card, which they can't get currently. b) They've also signed a new deal to 2x production with TSMC, No I don't know when the increased production will come online. So I'm sort of hopeful that when I look at the queues and see movement off the "zero day" timeline that things are improving. That said, this week isn't the bumper week we had last week in EU.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 04:08:33
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sorry I came in too sarcastic. With everything happening in the world one can easily lose oneself in bad thoughts. I read about the original price thing till april. But I doubt the 2600 production will have any kind of real impact. The production increase on the other hand will help definitely.  the next question is: What happens first a new graphics card or those vaccine shots.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 04:23:01
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Strangely I didn't read that as sarcastic at all, but now that you mention it... Nahh, just messing with ya.
Yeah the 2600/2600Super (re)introduction is an interesting thing. So with them not being on 8nm, they'll get fabricated in a different channel, essentially boosting the number of cards that being produced. The issue with some of the 3000's skus that they come out with is that it's ultimately the same chip, like the 3080's are essentially coming from the chips that failed to meet the 3090 testing requirements. So introducing a new 3000 sku doesn't really improve the overall number of cards coming out cause they are simply limited by the amount of 8nm chips they can make. But a new channel entirely is different
For many of us here, we want a specific card . For me it's a 3090FTW ultra and I probably wouldn't settle for a lower alternative. But for many (many) people out there, a large number of whom are building rigs and can't get *any* card, they might be happy to purchase a 2060 Super on Amazon becuase they can get it. A 2060 Super is pretty much a 2070, and that's not a bad card at all. If you have a percentage of people doing that.....it releases the pressure on the hardcore 3060/3070 people waiting on cards, who won't settle. So (in theory) they will get their 3060/3070 cards faster.
Unfortunately for the 3080/3090 which is a substantial jump up in perf & price, I can't see the 2060 cards making much of a help.
Pricing is the key though and I haven't seen what the price point is for these reintroduced 2060/2060 Super cards. If its the same as the 3060Ti.......you'd be hard pushed to convince me that a 2060/2060Super was a smart buy. However, if it was like <300 euros, then yeah, it'll help.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 06:23:25
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EVGA Asia is the one handling stock for Europe right? I'm guessing they're just selling everything straight to miners right now with no cards making it over here at all.
The past 2 weeks have been the best in movements for the EU queues actually.
Wait are you sure? I think I haven't seen any movement at all for the 3060Ti's for a long time...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 06:31:53
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I have been checking stock today for major EU sellers and the UK. Stock is literally zero right now.
Yeah, I've been keeping track of stock in major EU etailers. At the end of december quite some cards were dropping for decent prices on Amazon etc. (not alternate, they overcharge immensely). Now since the start of 2021 I think I've only seen 2 drops across the board...
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 09:55:03
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shrudder
EVGA Asia is the one handling stock for Europe right? I'm guessing they're just selling everything straight to miners right now with no cards making it over here at all.
The past 2 weeks have been the best in movements for the EU queues actually.
Wait are you sure? I think I haven't seen any movement at all for the 3060Ti's for a long time...
Er... your defenition of long time could be diferent from mine... but considering I recorded movement in 2021 already for the 3060 Ti I would call "long time" a bit of an exageration.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/27 15:40:57
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Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues.
A strangler day, so no self-reported move us foward. Hopefully we will have a better end of the week.
Name SKU Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:37:04 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:17:13 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 04:02:26
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shrudder
EVGA Asia is the one handling stock for Europe right? I'm guessing they're just selling everything straight to miners right now with no cards making it over here at all.
The past 2 weeks have been the best in movements for the EU queues actually.
Wait are you sure? I think I haven't seen any movement at all for the 3060Ti's for a long time...
Er... your defenition of long time could be diferent from mine... but considering I recorded movement in 2021 already for the 3060 Ti I would call "long time" a bit of an exageration.
Well, talk **** about my "definition of long time" all you want but so far I see the XC has only moved once in 2021. That was 3 weeks ago. FTW I didn't check when the last movement occurred, but judging by the spreadsheet the movements that happened aren't really significant.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 04:50:32
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I'm not sure about the XC, but the FTW (at least for the 3090) after weeks of zero (as in "nada", nothing, zip, no movement whatsoever) and I was one who'd be fairly pessimistic on the progress due to the stats we were seeing....but ....it got through a fairly substantial portion of the queue last week. You'd imagine that zero day for the queue introduction would have the highest amount of subscribers, and it moved off zero day ...... course it may not be that way and we may have more people on "day 1" or "day 2" than day zero - just to taunt me :-) The damm problem with us reverse engineering these queues is that we probably don'y have enough datapoints to determine what the actual throughput rate is. I really wish that EVGA would "go the extra mile" and make the actual official queue position datetime visible. It wouldn't expose much behind the curtain details either. We try to do it ourselves and we can sometimes get a good sense of it, but we don't have enough people like the North American queue/spreadsheet.
Your XC queue though doesn't look great on the surface, but I have hope/optimism that we'll start to see substantial moves over the next 2-3 weeks onwards.
Overall though, I still believe that we (EU) are not getting the same slice of the pie as our north american brothers, but it is what it is and I can't change it even if i shout loudly at my screen. I tried.... :-)
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 05:56:47
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just imagine EVGA releasing the exact "official queue position datetime". We look in our spreadsheet realize between number 2 and 3 are about 300 people we don't even know about. Poor Timmy Taylor getting hit by reality to statistically be number 3867 in queue with an estimated waiting time of 29 weeks. He sure gonna lose any hope and either skip this generation,go for a team red card or get a piece of hardware from that fruit company for work.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 06:30:08
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Yeah, that's one way of looking at it Feuer, and your not wrong.
Another way to look at it is that knowing the exact time and queue position doesn't make you get the card any faster (or slower), but it allows you to accurately set expectations in your mind as to when you will get it. I'd rather know it's going to be 4 months from the outset, than wait for 2 and then give up and go somewhere else. For most of us here on the Forum, we've all been waiting months and often we see zero movement, where in reality as you say 300 people we don't even know about have gotten a card in between our people. it's frustrating. We, myself included, often get demoralized that there's no movement when in fact there has.
The thing is though (and I know were just shooting the breeze here) .....what i'm suggesting doesn't mean you have to expose much information. Just have EVGA publish exactly what ennut/bovine are doing, but do it officially.
Name SKU Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:37:04 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:17:13 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
and the like, but the difference when they do it over us.....is that they don't have the "gaps" that we have. They don't have to expose the number of cards either, but it would at least improve the visibility into the queue for us punters.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 06:31:59
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@alandoy - Keep your faith!
My 3090 FTW today arrived in the best possible shipping condition. DHL Express did a phenomenal job on this one; not a single bump or scratch on the outer packaging... in four days from Taiwan to Germany - absolutely great.
Let's hope NVIDIA/EVGA are able to ramp up the production in the near future, for those of you who did not set up a notification at random shortly after the cards were presented on their website (without knowing that EVGA will use this as a queue later on...).
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 06:47:58
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Bloody2k - dead jealous, but your mail has improved my mood enormously. thanks for letting us know.
It's quite optimistic when I hear that people close to me in the queue have gotten successfully their cards through the system. If you'd asked me 2 weeks ago (with the data we had at the time) the 3090 FTW queue was broken - for sure, and I stand by that logic. But since then either someone in EVGA read my ranting and thought "Hey we better give those EU guys a few cards" or something else happened and the queue started moving.
Great to hear about the card arriving in mint condition too and that the baggage handlers weren't playing football with it :-)
Enjoy the card - may it give you many years of killing noobs!
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 11:05:29
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Yeah, that's one way of looking at it Feuer, and your not wrong.
Another way to look at it is that knowing the exact time and queue position doesn't make you get the card any faster (or slower), but it allows you to accurately set expectations in your mind as to when you will get it. I'd rather know it's going to be 4 months from the outset, than wait for 2 and then give up and go somewhere else. For most of us here on the Forum, we've all been waiting months and often we see zero movement, where in reality as you say 300 people we don't even know about have gotten a card in between our people. it's frustrating. We, myself included, often get demoralized that there's no movement when in fact there has.
The thing is though (and I know were just shooting the breeze here) .....what i'm suggesting doesn't mean you have to expose much information. Just have EVGA publish exactly what ennut/bovine are doing, but do it officially.
Name SKU Latest Emailed Date
3090 FTW3 Ultra 3987 9/25/2020 3:03:00 AM PT
3080 XC3 Ultra 3885 9/17/2020 8:35:00 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra 3897 9/17/2020 7:37:04 AM PT
3070 XC3 Black 3751 10/29/2020 6:13:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra 3755 10/29/2020 6:17:13 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra 3767 10/29/2020 6:23:43 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming 3663 12/6/2020 12:55:48 AM PT
3060 TI FTW 3667 12/05/2020 11:32:26 PM PT
and the like, but the difference when they do it over us.....is that they don't have the "gaps" that we have. They don't have to expose the number of cards either, but it would at least improve the visibility into the queue for us punters.
Your sugestion would obviously cover all the major problems with the queue, no question about that. But unfortunatley it does not look like EVGA will ever release any kind of official information at this stage. I tried (without much hope) to ask Jacob to get hold of someone dealing with the EU stock for some official drop information but did not heard back, either that person does not exist or has no clearance to share that information, I am more inclined for the later since "our warehouse" is the asian hub. So for EVGA it seems the strategy is to say as little as nothing as possible and keep the "water cards" queues locked. A decision I have come to support even more after seeing the Hybrid queues literally freeze in the US, it's bad enough that the Hydro Coppers were officially delayed, this alone says a lot about EVGA's lack of components. Yes it is frustrating to see your waiting times double in months, but that's exactly the purpose for this exercise, to get a pulse so that the people waiting will have a more realistic perspective of how much they have ahead, in that sense my objective is being acomplished, it's very bad news, yes it is, but without the self reports we would be pretty much in the dark and most likely feeding unrealistic expectations. That's the main purpose for my reports AND the people waiting can help others by reporting their emails. To conclude, I believe it's still better some information than no information at all. To make things even funnier EVGA's own site continues to throw me curve balls by scrambling some dates. But I have time, ohhh, I have PLENTY of time, for I am one of the "Black Ones", yessss, the elusive 3881 SKU that refuses to show up in my searches, my little preciousss.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 11:19:12
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Btw, let it be known I do really appreciate @BovineGamer 's work on more accurate queue info (or anyone else trying to achieve that). Just getting a little sick and tired of this seemingly endless wait is all :)
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/01/28 12:21:42
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just imagine EVGA releasing the exact "official queue position datetime". We look in our spreadsheet realize between number 2 and 3 are about 300 people we don't even know about. Poor Timmy Taylor getting hit by reality to statistically be number 3867 in queue with an estimated waiting time of 29 weeks. He sure gonna lose any hope and either skip this generation,go for a team red card or get a piece of hardware from that fruit company for work.
This is something that everyone should take as a fact. praeceps91
And with this, we are back to the not so good exchange rate for EUR-USD.
3080 is 880 dollars. Now that is 772 euro for us. That is a 0,875 rate, instead of the correct 0,82.
Well, we had like 2 weeks of normal exhange, because of the custom changes for NA.
Yes, sadly we are taking that blow as well. However EVGA has posted an information on the EU shop that the "16 April Deadline" will also be apliable to Europe Due to ongoing events, EVGA has made price adjustments on the GeForce RTX 30 Series products. This change was necessary due to several factors and will be effective January 11, 2021. EVGA has worked to reduce and minimize these costs as much as possible. For those who are currently in the EVGA.com Notify Queue system or Step-Up Queue, EVGA will honor the original MSRP pricing through April 16th, 2021 if your purchase position is processed before this date.
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/02/01 10:55:26
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Come on guys - big bucket of cards for the EU folks!
You know you want to ! :-)
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Re: What's going on with EU and 3080's?
2021/02/01 11:39:16
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alandoy
Come on guys - big bucket of cards for the EU folks!
You know you want to ! :-)
Not saying no to a bucket, but a container would be nice.
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