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Just had my FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit installed and it's definitely not my first rodeo on hybrid kit conversions so I made sure it was done properly, but wow is this super frustrating to deal with. I've been running stress tests in Port Royal and while it seems EVGA Precision X1 is following the fan curves mostly, there are random times where the RPM in Precision X1 will show 0, fan speed still shows the regular curve % it should be at (roughly 60% or so under full load), but the fans are very clearly spinning at 100% for upwards of 30 seconds. Anyone else ever have this issue or know what can be done to prevent the random ramp up? Current Precision X1 fan settings attached here.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/13 09:17:04
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Magrecite
Just had my FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit installed and it's definitely not my first rodeo on hybrid kit conversions so I made sure it was done properly, but wow is this super frustrating to deal with.
I've been running stress tests in Port Royal and while it seems EVGA Precision X1 is following the fan curves mostly, there are random times where the RPM in Precision X1 will show 0, fan speed still shows the regular curve % it should be at (roughly 60% or so under full load), but the fans are very clearly spinning at 100% for upwards of 30 seconds.
Anyone else ever have this issue or know what can be done to prevent the random ramp up?
Current Precision X1 fan settings attached here.
I can confirm this. I installed my FTW3 Hybrid kit yesterday and have the exact same issue. Fan will show 0 but the fall running at full speed. Then it'll go back down to normal...rinse...repeat Looks like this is a bug and will likely get addressed in an update. It would be a good idea to email support.
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Magrecite
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/13 09:24:32
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Magrecite
Just had my FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit installed and it's definitely not my first rodeo on hybrid kit conversions so I made sure it was done properly, but wow is this super frustrating to deal with.
I've been running stress tests in Port Royal and while it seems EVGA Precision X1 is following the fan curves mostly, there are random times where the RPM in Precision X1 will show 0, fan speed still shows the regular curve % it should be at (roughly 60% or so under full load), but the fans are very clearly spinning at 100% for upwards of 30 seconds.
Anyone else ever have this issue or know what can be done to prevent the random ramp up?
Current Precision X1 fan settings attached here.
I can confirm this. I installed my FTW3 Hybrid kit yesterday and have the exact same issue. Fan will show 0 but the fall running at full speed. Then it'll go back down to normal...rinse...repeat Looks like this is a bug and will likely get addressed in an update. It would be a good idea to email support.
Spent most of yesterday troubleshooting, reapplying the kit and thermal paste making sure it wasn't a contact issue as well and thought I wasn't able to fix it but have a temporary workaround to alleviate the issue if you want to give it a try. I have a 360mm Corsair H150i AIO for my CPU that I ended up moving to the front of my case and put the EVGA Hybrid Kit on top which naturally dropped temperatures a little bit more (69C while stress testing Port Royal), as I thought maybe something in the BIOS was triggering the VRM fan to spin up (since that's ultimately the noise maker here) without recognizing that a hybrid kit was on the card now. Unfortunately that fan still decided to ramp up to 100% and show the fan tachometer in Afterburner (after giving up on Precision) drop from 1300 RPM to 0 (which in reality was 100% instead). I shut down, flipped the switch on the physical card itself from OC BIOS to the Normal BIOS and ran the stress test again without any issues at all. VRM fan on the card stayed consistently around 64% under full load which is what I set it at for the fan curve and noise levels were more than acceptable; fairly consistent actually with the noise levels of my old 2080 Ti Xtreme Waterforce card I had that was an AIO as well. I'm hoping there's a fix though because not being able to leverage the OC BIOS on this because of noise levels is pretty unacceptable. Also, after contacting support they essentially told me to reinstall Precision X and the GPU drivers which naturally didn't solve it. I'd say give this a try though and see if you see similar results on noise levels.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/13 10:21:18
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Just did another test on this and updated the normal BIOS on the card to the updated, increased power limit BIOS and bumped the limit up to 119% under the normal switch (on the card itself). Temperatures were a smidge higher around 71C-73C under stress testing but the VRM fan kicked into 100% mode again a few minutes into the test which leads me to believe it's either a sensor making the card not realize it's not actually overheating, or any issue with the beta BIOS in general.
Would love to see if anyone else is able to do some testing on this.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/13 15:23:21
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I lowered my power and temp to 100% and 83c respectively. I also bumped up the memory to +1000 and +130 on the clock. All good now. Haven't had the crazy fan issue since.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/13 15:25:05
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I lowered my power and temp to 100% and 83c respectively. I also bumped up the memory to +1000 and +130 on the clock. All good now. Haven't had the crazy fan issue since.
I'm curious to see what support ends up saying (even after their solution is to reinstall everything.) Seems like an issue with the power target or VRM temperatures/sensors not acting properly.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/13 21:20:58
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Entirely possible this is a Precision X1 glitch that will be solved in a future update - remember when 3080s/3090s first came out, both Precision & Afterburner had serious fan speed readout/control glitches that were both driver & software related, and eventually most of them have been solved (except Afterburner still derping on the 3rd fan).
Curious to see if I encounter this issue since I'm not getting a kit, but a card with the Hybrid cooler preinstalled, today or tomorrow. I'll be sure to report back if the issue exists with the preassembled Hybrid cards as well.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/18 09:10:32
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I have the same problem!
The fans keep ramping up to 100%!
I installed my hybrid kit last night.
On idle, the kit is quiet.
When loading a game, it ramps up to 100%. I cannot even control the fans
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/18 10:14:01
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/19 12:54:43
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Magrecite
Just did another test on this and updated the normal BIOS on the card to the updated, increased power limit BIOS and bumped the limit up to 119% under the normal switch (on the card itself). Temperatures were a smidge higher around 71C-73C under stress testing but the VRM fan kicked into 100% mode again a few minutes into the test which leads me to believe it's either a sensor making the card not realize it's not actually overheating, or any issue with the beta BIOS in general.
Would love to see if anyone else is able to do some testing on this.
You're getting up to 73 degrees with the hybrid kit?
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/21 16:46:05
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If I recall correctly, the cards need to be updated to the hybrid version bios, this topic has a post by EVGA_JacobF with the bioses to do that otherwise the fans may not work correctly: https://forums.evga.com/3...-Install-m3177119.aspx
Thanks.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/31 08:34:03
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I have this exact same issue. FTW3 Ultra Hybrid (not the kit version), runs stable at 72-73C, except in some games it just randomly decides to run the one fan on the GPU itself at 100%. When it does this, the fan speed in precision, afterburner, and GPU-z don't show any increase from 30% at all.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/31 09:07:13
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I have this exact same issue. FTW3 Ultra Hybrid (not the kit version), runs stable at 72-73C, except in some games it just randomly decides to run the one fan on the GPU itself at 100%. When it does this, the fan speed in precision, afterburner, and GPU-z don't show any increase from 30% at all.
Your hybrid pump might be DOA. This was happening to me after installing the kit (same card tbh). And I did a cross-RMA. And after installing the second hybrid kit, the temps went away. Also, make sure your case is good. I had to upgrade to a Lian Li XL Rog in order to get 50c gpu temps at 60% fan speed.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2020/12/31 09:10:34
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I have this exact same issue. FTW3 Ultra Hybrid (not the kit version), runs stable at 72-73C, except in some games it just randomly decides to run the one fan on the GPU itself at 100%. When it does this, the fan speed in precision, afterburner, and GPU-z don't show any increase from 30% at all.
Your hybrid pump might be DOA. This was happening to me after installing the kit (same card tbh). And I did a cross-RMA. And after installing the second hybrid kit, the temps went away.
Also, make sure your case is good. I had to upgrade to a Lian Li XL Rog in order to get 50c gpu temps at 60% fan speed.
I'm not concerned about the GPU temps, I'm concerned that the VRM/RAM fan is running at 100% with absolutely no control over it.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2021/01/28 18:34:33
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I figured out more or less what was causing it for me, basically some component on the card (not sure which but it's obviously outside of the core) is getting above a certain temperature and tripping a hard-coded fan override to 100% in vBIOS.
The fix was:
1. Increase my software fan curve for the VRM fan on the card
2. Increase the RPM of all of my case ventilation fans to keep cooler air blowing over the card.
Also I will add that EVGA customer support was no help whatsoever and this took a LOT of testing to figure out. I still don't know what component was overheating, and I can't wait to throw the hybrid kit in the garbage when I can finally get ahold of an EKWB gpu block.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2021/01/28 18:39:38
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on my side, it works good but sometimes it goes faster and sometimes slower. I don't know why and I hate this behaviour.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2021/02/16 09:18:29
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starting to get really nervous by all these posts lately
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2021/02/16 09:20:28
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solved disconnecting fans from the card and using an external manual pina controller! bah
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2021/02/17 17:39:07
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Something is definitely wrong with either the Firmware or VBIOS, hard forcing the fans to max out due to some kind of temp or load protection condition that is not at all visible in Precision X1. ICX will show all temps are well under control, but fans will momentarily jump to 100% seemingly at random when under load. Not only that, fans are apparently being commanded to well above their max RPM, sometimes showing upwards of 20000 RPM.
Forcing fans to manually run at a set high speed seems to mitigate this issue. Either because the manual control overrides this behavior, or some component on the board is being cooled.
Really hope EVGA gives us some visibility on this. Temps are great with this kit, but the noise is pretty infuriating. It's pretty bad when the best solution to this issue is to disconnect the fans from the card altogether and just use a different fan controller.
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Re: FTW3 3090 Hybrid Kit Fan Speeds Insane (Help?)
2021/02/17 18:04:01
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Temps are actually abysmally horrible with this kit lol, mine is hotter and louder than the aircooled FTW3 I replaced it with.
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