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2020/09/23 20:19:43 (permalink)
What is up with the prices on the EU EVGA store? they don't include VAT, which in the UK is 20%.
 
That means that the cheapest XC3 version costs almost as much as some sites are selling the FTW3 Ultra for??
 
I assume the prices have only recently shown on the site as I've been checking often.
 
Is that really the price of EVGA cards? I had a cancelled order on amazon for £769 before they took them off due to 0 stock. that would be 838 euros including tax
 
EDIT: Pre-tax prices have been adjusted, cost including tax is now correct I believe
post edited by ROSSJONES - 2020/09/30 13:24:22
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    arcky
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 21:02:18 (permalink)
    Jacob said they'd be updating shortly
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 21:32:19 (permalink)
    arcky
    Jacob said they'd be updating shortly


    Where did you see that ? As far as I know, Jacob said on Twitter like days ago they were fixing the VAT issues, and 2 or 3 hours ago he said " prices are up now " but I didn't see any mention of prices being the wrong ones and being adjusted shortly, at least on Twitter :/
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 21:39:22 (permalink)
    I mean if the price I see right now for the EVGA FTW3 ultra (840 euro/£770) includes 20% VAT, that's literally on point with the amazon order I placed before ti got canceled. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 21:59:23 (permalink)
    Well, right now all prices exclude VAT, so the final price would be very high (unless fixed shortly)
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 22:07:56 (permalink)
    Based on US prices, I'd say (and hope) that this price indeed includes the 21% Netherland VAT. Because in US Store, price for the FTW3 Ultra is 810$, if you add 21% of VAT, it climbs up to 980$, which converted to euros gives you roughly 840€. So from adding VAT + currency conversion point of view, it would make sense that it DOES include the VAT already. Otherwise prices for the FTW3 Ultra would get up to around 1000€ if 840€ really is the VAT excluded price, which is even more than many retailers I've seen. And considering in the EVGA US Store they still sell at MSRP, I don't see why they would increase the price in the EU Store, at least not to that extent. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 22:12:25 (permalink)
    Looking at the variety of leaked price points across partners and 3rd party sellers; they must include taxes/VAT. Otherwise the billing situation is nuts. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/23 22:23:20 (permalink)
    Since the issue leading to the TBD prices was that the VAT was double paid for some people, if I had to guess about the situation, I'd say they managed to fix the double VAT issue hence would explain why the prices are not TBD anymore, and now they "only" need to fix the prices to the right amount with VAT excluded. That would be my guess (and hope). 

    Because I assume their price system is the simplest, meaning VAT free then adding the VAT of the needed country, instead of having a price already including a % VAT that's not the same throughout the EU (and therefore the system would need to do more calculations to the price, even if at light speed that still would be more to code for a developer than the first mentioned system.)
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 00:04:45 (permalink)
    They didnt FIX double tax rate. Price whit TAX and they write that TAX is not included 840Eur without TAX is 1016Eur whit 21%TAX ****


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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 00:42:09 (permalink)
    Well, maybe when you add to cart it doesn't add anymore VAT (despite saying otherwise with the text, unless to adjust to higher or lower VAT %) and because it was the quickest fix they could do and had hard time trying to pass it on full excluded VAT or changing price, I don't know what else to say except that I don't know why they would give back the option if it wasn't fixed in some ways, or if maybe there was stock on the way and that they would tell people to buy and refund the money that was above the desired EU MSRP. Maybe the fix was on the payment system and the product page isn't redacted yet.
     
    Maybe we'll get more infos soon (hopefully) about that. 
     
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 00:45:20 (permalink)
    Yeah prices seem kind of high but I still want my ftw3, stock please :(
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 00:52:14 (permalink)
    Hope this is still a mistake for VATs
    On shops in EU, it's cheaper 

    Sorry for my english
     
     
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 00:59:28 (permalink)
    So basically, nothing changed since Thursday, just the prices went to TBD and now back to double VAT. These prices should include tax, as the FE at 699.99 EUR includes tax in the nvidia site.
    Maybe it's just the front end that needs fixing and the prices do include VAT and it's just the word "exc" that needs changing to "inc". Yeah i know, naive :)

     
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 01:04:26 (permalink)
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    Maybe it's just the front end that needs fixing and the prices do include VAT and it's just the word "exc" that needs changing to "inc". Yeah i know, naive :)


    That's my idea like I said above. I don't know how things are managed but if the payments options are separated from the product pages (i.e two jobs instead of being one) it's possible that like I said, payment has been fixed and only the product page itself needs adjusting. Whether it's the price itself or the VAT excluded text. Because, unless stock is coming very very soon and they couldn't finish fixing it, I don't know why they would put up wrong prices with broken VAT when on cart / processing payment. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 01:15:50 (permalink)
    As far as I can see the whole reasoning behind excluding VAT is that by having an EU store rather than country specific, they need to somehow include varying VAT prices in the same product pages. So it can't be final that prices show as including VAT. It could be that for now, it shows VAT for a specific country, but I doubt it'll stay like this. I'm guessing prices still need to be fixed on the store pages.
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 01:33:57 (permalink)
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    As far as I can see the whole reasoning behind excluding VAT is that by having an EU store rather than country specific, they need to somehow include varying VAT prices in the same product pages. So it can't be final that prices show as including VAT. It could be that for now, it shows VAT for a specific country, but I doubt it'll stay like this. I'm guessing prices still need to be fixed on the store pages.


    Idk about other countries but here in France we have a dedicated store and the prices are still exc. VAT
     
    edit : or maybe the "fr" in "fr.evga.com" just stand for the language
    post edited by Dwight_Schrute - 2020/09/24 01:42:37
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 01:54:32 (permalink)
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    As far as I can see the whole reasoning behind excluding VAT is that by having an EU store rather than country specific, they need to somehow include varying VAT prices in the same product pages. So it can't be final that prices show as including VAT. It could be that for now, it shows VAT for a specific country, but I doubt it'll stay like this. I'm guessing prices still need to be fixed on the store pages.


    Idk about other countries but here in France we have a dedicated store and the prices are still exc. VAT
     
    edit : or maybe the "fr" in "fr.evga.com" just stand for the language


    As far as I understand, it's just the language changing yeah, because it still seems there are many redirect to either EU store or just US. And after looking at shipping policies it states the warehouses are in the Netherlands where it's then sent to any EU country (including France). Germany also as an EVGA site so i'm guessing it's because there's a lot of french and german people compared to other countries that either speak natively english like Great Britain / Sweden or just don't have as many people buying therefore it would be time and money spent for not much investiment. At least that's the way I see it. 

    Especially since you can just Google Translate pretty much anything except images and even now you can use screen captures to translate text on images. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 02:05:42 (permalink)
    Also if TAX is payed in 1 EU country its apply to other EU (no double taxing) so why they cant add lowest TAX in EU and that is it. Or they dont ship from EU warehouses? Then it should be non tax price on store plus in invoice each country VAT and shipping cost. I think tomorrow im gona buy from USA (if i can) store and pay VAT tax  it will be more cheaper.

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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 02:10:54 (permalink)
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    Also if TAX is payed in 1 EU country its apply to other EU (no double taxing) so why they cant add lowest TAX in EU and that is it. Or they dont ship from EU warehouses? Then it should be non tax price on store plus in invoice each country VAT and shipping cost. I think tomorrow im gona buy from USA (if i can) store and pay VAT tax  it will be more cheaper.



    1) I'm not even sure you can order on the US Store and be delivered in the EU
    2) EU prices are most likely just the wrong ones, not the real ones, and 840€ for the FTW3 Ultra would be with 21% VAT. It's just that there's so much for them to do (like be sure websites don't crash when items in store, reviewing orders, etc) that they aren't able to do all at once and since US got stocks before EU they were / are trying to fix it asap so they can then fix also EU store when stocks are about to come.

    Edit : There's two ways to look at it, if prices are wrong. Either the price is indeed with 21% VAT and they then adjust to whatever % your country is, or they lower the price to the real one without VAT and just add whatever VAT % is in your country.
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 02:35:45 (permalink)
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    As far as I can see the whole reasoning behind excluding VAT is that by having an EU store rather than country specific, they need to somehow include varying VAT prices in the same product pages. So it can't be final that prices show as including VAT. It could be that for now, it shows VAT for a specific country, but I doubt it'll stay like this. I'm guessing prices still need to be fixed on the store pages.


    Idk about other countries but here in France we have a dedicated store and the prices are still exc. VAT
     
    edit : or maybe the "fr" in "fr.evga.com" just stand for the language


    As far as I understand, it's just the language changing yeah, because it still seems there are many redirect to either EU store or just US. And after looking at shipping policies it states the warehouses are in the Netherlands where it's then sent to any EU country (including France). Germany also as an EVGA site so i'm guessing it's because there's a lot of french and german people compared to other countries that either speak natively english like Great Britain / Sweden or just don't have as many people buying therefore it would be time and money spent for not much investiment. At least that's the way I see it. 

    Especially since you can just Google Translate pretty much anything except images and even now you can use screen captures to translate text on images. 



    Yes, you must be right
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/24 21:16:28 (permalink)
    Still no news yet about the pricing fixing, but there's hope since yesterday was very busy because of the 3090 launch, and Jacob said there should be no stock until next week so hopefully they have some time to fix EU Store now 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 00:45:43 (permalink)
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    Also if TAX is payed in 1 EU country its apply to other EU (no double taxing) so why they cant add lowest TAX in EU and that is it. Or they dont ship from EU warehouses? Then it should be non tax price on store plus in invoice each country VAT and shipping cost. I think tomorrow im gona buy from USA (if i can) store and pay VAT tax  it will be more cheaper.



    1) I'm not even sure you can order on the US Store and be delivered in the EU
    2) EU prices are most likely just the wrong ones, not the real ones, and 840€ for the FTW3 Ultra would be with 21% VAT. It's just that there's so much for them to do (like be sure websites don't crash when items in store, reviewing orders, etc) that they aren't able to do all at once and since US got stocks before EU they were / are trying to fix it asap so they can then fix also EU store when stocks are about to come.

    Edit : There's two ways to look at it, if prices are wrong. Either the price is indeed with 21% VAT and they then adjust to whatever % your country is, or they lower the price to the real one without VAT and just add whatever VAT % is in your country.




    This is the key point. The prices on the store have to be wrong. It's only how it's wrong: Have they not fixed the issue at all, and they still just have to lower the price to exclude VAT and add it back country-specific? Or have they just taken some random VAT and for now, once you add to cart, it takes the correct VAT amount?
     
    I'd bet on the first one since the latter is a bit of a daft solution imo. But anyways until cards are actually in stock and people place orders for them, we won't know. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 00:55:49 (permalink)
    Their priority right now is fixing US checkout and site, EU will come after that, hopefully. If any stock comes to the EU store next week, it will be double VAT priced because why not 
     
    It's funny how only the RTX 30 cards have pricing, everything else is TBD now hahaha.

     
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 01:06:41 (permalink)
    igralec84
    Their priority right now is fixing US checkout and site, EU will come after that, hopefully. If any stock comes to the EU store next week, it will be double VAT priced because why not 
     
    It's funny how only the RTX 30 cards have pricing, everything else is TBD now hahaha.


    Honestly considering their good customer support I'll take it with double VAT and ask a partial refund deducting the excess of VAT. If I can manage to get the card bought. Which shouldn't be that hard though considering that most of the features and load is on the US Server and I'd think they would have another one dedicated to EU since EU and US Stores don't appear to be lagging at the same time. 
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 01:08:29 (permalink)
    @EVGA

    Can your European customers have an update on the EU prices and availability

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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 01:42:35 (permalink)
    I don't even care about the prices anymore, I just want the eu site to have stock, so frustrating how the US gets chance after chance to have a go at trying to buy a card and EU gets ignored
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 06:41:31 (permalink)
    just so you know, i applied for step up (2080s > 3080 ftw3 ultra)
     
    i paid 718€ (french vat - 20%) on amazon for my 2080s,
    the step up cost is 131,04€ (20% vat - including the shipping which is 15,99€ alone)
     
    so... 3080 ftw ultra cost 833,05 with french 20% vat
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/25 07:11:00 (permalink)
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    just so you know, i applied for step up (2080s > 3080 ftw3 ultra)
     
    i paid 718€ (french vat - 20%) on amazon for my 2080s,
    the step up cost is 131,04€ (20% vat - including the shipping which is 15,99€ alone)
     
    so... 3080 ftw ultra cost 833,05 with french 20% vat


    Thanks for the info ! That indeed should resolve any fear we could have as consumers, and now we just need prices fixed so we can give our money to our beloved EVGA :P
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/30 13:22:56 (permalink)
    It seems prices on the EVGA EU site have been adjusted to Exc VAT amounts some time today.  prices look to be correct when tax is added.
     
    Now to hope for some restocks!
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    Re: EVGA EU 3080 prices 2020/09/30 13:49:16 (permalink)
    The EU prices look fine now.
     
    Thanks Team-Evga!
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