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2020/09/20 19:09:04 (permalink)
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

Honestly I may just sit in my hands for awhile. With all this 20GB super talk going around.... not like I have a choice anyway.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:17:20 (permalink)
    The Titan level cards are not gaming cards in the first place. They're more about stuff like extra VRAM for professional use. Which you don't need for gaming anyway.
    A full 20+GB of VRAM will not be fully utilized for gaming. I don't know of any game that actually uses all 8GB on my 2070 Super(actually used, not allocated.)

    If you're not a professional using it for compute tasks then the 3090 was not meant for you.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:18:24 (permalink)
    Same, I would've paid the premium for maybe 15-20% but the numbers there are disappointing. I may just string out the 1080TI for a while. 
    I really wanted to play Cyberpunk on release with the new card but I can wait if needed. Maybe AMD will surprise us all (insert pig flying gif).
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:29:23 (permalink)
    yea not so hyped any more after seeing this and reading from the spanish guy on OC.net.
     
    i'll buy it regardless nonetheless, however my enthusiasm for the card is gone.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:34:12 (permalink)
    Unless you're using at min a 4K monitor simply not needed.....surprises me to see so many folks not using 4K that are planning on a 3090......I believe 3080 and 1440p should be a sweet spot!

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:38:17 (permalink)
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    Unless you're using at min a 4K monitor simply not needed.....surprises me to see so many folks not using 4K that are planning on a 3090......I believe 3080 and 1440p should be a sweet spot!



    I've been gaming on 4K for over a year now. Will the 3080 still be enough? 3090 is a bit.. pricey for me, especially with the information in this thread.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:42:01 (permalink)
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    The Titan level cards are not gaming cards in the first place. They're more about stuff like extra VRAM for professional use. Which you don't need for gaming anyway.
    A full 20+GB of VRAM will not be fully utilized for gaming. I don't know of any game that actually uses all 8GB on my 2070 Super(actually used, not allocated.)

    If you're not a professional using it for compute tasks then the 3090 was not meant for you.


    Nah it was marketed as a full blown 8k gaming card. If the gains are this pathetic at 4K I’m not sure the memory will be enough.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 19:42:34 (permalink)
    Cant answer that as I have a 1440p Ultra Wide 120Hz monitor....I know the 10G Card will be fine....perhaps 4K gamers will chime in. You also have to consider your refresh rate, as in 60Hz, 120Hz or 144hz.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/20 20:51:22 (permalink)
    lol, those numbers are so suspect even OJ wouldn't retweet them

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 05:25:10 (permalink)
    the numbers are real, guy who has the card posted on OC.net with pictures.
     
    In Control, the RTX 3090 was hitting 71fps at 4K with ray-tracing and DLSS enabled, compared to 65fps for the RTX 3080

     


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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 05:28:05 (permalink)
    We knew the 3090 wouldn't be so hot for gaming because nVidia didn't include benchmarks in its presentation and didn't present the 3090 on its performance/value graph either.
     
    It will still be the best, and people who want the best don't care about fps/$ ratios. 
     
     
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 05:51:17 (permalink)
    Since it was tested on an Intel cpu, it must have been pcie 3.0. Would using the pcie 4.0 make any difference?
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 05:52:05 (permalink)
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    Since it was tested on an Intel cpu, it must have been pcie 3.0. Would using the pcie 4.0 make any difference?




    Tech Jesus said there were no signs of 3080 being bottlenecked but that the 3090 would merit further testing. 
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 06:12:38 (permalink)
    Ya, i'm interested in seeing more tests. I'll probably end up buying one anyways since I been saving up money for it all year anyways.
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 06:39:39 (permalink)
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    Honestly I may just sit in my hands for awhile. With all this 20GB super talk going around.... not like I have a choice anyway.

     
    Why are you assuming that those random chinese benchmarks are even true? From what I know, those are fake numbers and you shouldn't jump on doing conclusions based on untrustworthy chinese leaks in a first place.
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 06:47:18 (permalink)
    everyone said that we should believe the chinese numbers because the 3080 leak turned out true..... except it wasnt
     
    The chinese reported 25% better performance at 4k. which is way off.
    ALL THE TECH SITES report 30% + 
    ALL OF THEM. pick your favorite reviewer and compare the 4k numbers from tests. They all show that the 3080 is between 30-32% faster in 4k
     
    Basically, the Chinese made up numbers. Also, it's not clear that the Chinese even have the proper drivers to preform the tests
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 07:02:23 (permalink)
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    https://videocardz.com/ne...mance-review-leaks-out

    Honestly I may just sit in my hands for awhile. With all this 20GB super talk going around.... not like I have a choice anyway.



    Once adjusted for TDP, Ampere is less of a gain over Turning than Turing was over Pascal.
     
    Looks like about +30% for 3090 (vs. 2080 Ti or Titan RTX) at equivalent power levels.
     
    Compared with +40% for 2080 Ti over 1080 Ti at around 250w/260w.
     
    I always enjoy when people keep shouting "trust the professional reviews".
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 07:11:54 (permalink)
     
    3090 will be great for rendering.
     


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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 07:53:27 (permalink)
    Numbers are good enough for me.  I'd rather get it now, put a block on it and not have to worry about a new card for a few years.  The difference in price isn't a big deal to me compared to getting a 3080 now and then upgrading 2-3 times.


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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 07:54:37 (permalink)
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    3090 will be great for rendering.
     




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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 09:00:52 (permalink)
    Regardless of the percentage increases as shown, I have more than a few reasons for buying (or attempting to buy) a 3090 series cards, Mainly I want to use them for Overclocking/Benchmarking in the 3DMark HOF as I have done with my past builds.
     
    Although, That statement is kind of a mute point, Because with Only about three more days left, I will probably see them evaporate in front of my eyes when they are released for sale on the 24th.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 09:40:10 (permalink)
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    Regardless of the percentage increases as shown, I have more than a few reasons for buying (or attempting to buy) a 3090 series cards, Mainly I want to use them for Overclocking/Benchmarking in the 3DMark HOF as I have done with my past builds.
     
    Although, That statement is kind of a mute point, Because with Only about three more days left, I will probably see them evaporate in front of my eyes when they are released for sale on the 24th.


    Ah yes.... the thrill of holding world records for about two hours with SLI GTX Titans with a 980x until the rest of the world got theirs.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 10:02:34 (permalink)
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    Ah yes.... the thrill of holding world records for about two hours with SLI GTX Titans with a 980x until the rest of the world got theirs.




    Actually, It's usually until the LN2 boys get their hands on them.

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 10:10:26 (permalink)
    Doesn't really matter if it's "disappointing" or not compared to the 3080 because it will still sell out in virtually seconds just like 3080 did. If there are already people paying $1500 for a 3080 by the droves (and there are) what makes any of you think a $1500MSRP card won't instantly sell out? The only real way any of us are going to get this card on launch day is to either camp out at a local store and hope they have inventory or fight a pointless battle against all the bots and scalpers that will again buy up 99% of the MSRP cards and then flip them on eBay for $2000+. 

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 10:14:56 (permalink)
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    Doesn't really matter if it's "disappointing" or not compared to the 3080 because it will still sell out in virtually seconds just like 3080 did. If there are already people paying $1500 for a 3080 by the droves (and there are) what makes any of you think a $1500MSRP card won't instantly sell out? The only real way any of us are going to get this card on launch day is to either camp out at a local store and hope they have inventory or fight a pointless battle against all the bots and scalpers that will again buy up 99% of the MSRP cards and then flip them on eBay for $2000+. 


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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 10:22:13 (permalink)
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    Doesn't really matter if it's "disappointing" or not compared to the 3080 because it will still sell out in virtually seconds just like 3080 did. If there are already people paying $1500 for a 3080 by the droves (and there are) what makes any of you think a $1500MSRP card won't instantly sell out? The only real way any of us are going to get this card on launch day is to either camp out at a local store and hope they have inventory or fight a pointless battle against all the bots and scalpers that will again buy up 99% of the MSRP cards and then flip them on eBay for $2000+. 

    +1

    +2   ..imagine how much better these businesses would do financially if they made even close to enough stock to meet demand at launch - and it would put a big dent on the scalpers at the same time. Sigh. Sometimes businesses can be their own worst enemy. This is directed at NVidia really, since all the other companies (like EVGA) rely on NVidia to supply them with the base model in a timely manner.
     


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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 10:30:10 (permalink)
    I'm inclined not to believe any numbers until there are more reviewers, and reputable ones at that releasing them. The price to performance ratio on the jump from 3080 to 3090 never looked especially that great, but I have hard time believing they'd release a card marketed for gaming(as opposed to keeping the titan name and marketing it towards workstation usage) that barely gets more than single digit increases for double the price.
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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 10:35:21 (permalink)
    I'm going to wait until someone I trust reviews it. And it's not that website...
     

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 15:18:49 (permalink)
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    I'm going to wait until someone I trust reviews it. And it's not that website...
     


    Do you know when we will see NDA lift for the card launch? Considering that insane price and the alleged small performance some claim, I want to see some hard hands on performance with it. 
     

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    Re: 3090 benchmarks not so hot 2020/09/21 15:33:05 (permalink)
    You know a site is legit when they use a z instead of a s. /z
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