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2020/09/18 04:15:54 (permalink)
Yeah.

so we all were expecting that the release day would be a bummer for the most of us. But it would be helpful and foremost important for us, a paying customer, when we can expect restocking and be able to buy FTW3 models at all. I mean yeah, obviously Steve from GN already "informed" us that restocking will be every few days, but it would be much more helpful to get those informations in youir own forum, so those who are waiting feel informed at all. 

So is it to be restocked anywhere soon and will you try to limit those scalpers and bots crashing your website. Or will you wait until you have a bigger Pile of in stock inventory to get a bigger amount of paying customers served at once?

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:24:13 (permalink)
Yes, all versions of GPU's will see a stream of restocking on a regular basis. (Small replenishments)
 
It has been discussed many times, the FTW versions should be out in a few days.

 
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:27:28 (permalink)
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Yes, all versions of GPU's will see a stream of restocking on a regular basis. (Small replenishments)
 
It has been discussed many times, the FTW versions should be out in a few days.


 
WEll good to hear that. I might have overread that in all those threads where like 1k+ answers are made. Another thing i would like to know how fast the replacement for the red accent on the FTW3 will be available because that red "lipstick" type accent doesnt really fit at all to many systems

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:30:58 (permalink)
Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...

 
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:32:10 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:40:57 (permalink)
I think what we are seeing is the most compelling reason to upgrade we have seen in years so I don't really think it's just bots but just a lot of people interested. Also with the pandemic we are seeing more people at home interested in gaming then we normally would see. It's the perfect storm for products selling out very fast. Luckily it seems like supply is going to be replenished faster with EVGA on yesterdays stream saying for people who don't like the red trim wait a few weeks which to me sounds like they will have enough supply to offer different trim options for the cards.
 
What I would recommended is setting up the Auto Notify on the card you want. Keep in mind if you get the email that it's in stock and you miss out you need to sign up again to get notified the next time.

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:51:38 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...
 

post edited by igralec84 - 2020/09/18 04:53:46

 
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:54:36 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...



Oh nice.. good you tell me that. Well was to busy trying to get a checkout at all yesterday and not getting a crashed site with the result to restart again. So yeah that is broken indeed.

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 04:58:37 (permalink)
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I think what we are seeing is the most compelling reason to upgrade we have seen in years so I don't really think it's just bots but just a lot of people interested. Also with the pandemic we are seeing more people at home interested in gaming then we normally would see. It's the perfect storm for products selling out very fast. Luckily it seems like supply is going to be replenished faster with EVGA on yesterdays stream saying for people who don't like the red trim wait a few weeks which to me sounds like they will have enough supply to offer different trim options for the cards.
 
What I would recommended is setting up the Auto Notify on the card you want. Keep in mind if you get the email that it's in stock and you miss out you need to sign up again to get notified the next time.



Thx for the "trim- info" but you know as good as me, that the auto notifier is not even usefull, because those emails are not getting through fast enough to be used as a reference when to buy. Usually by the time you enter the site then ( and my emails are refreshing every minute) its pretty safe out of stock again. Maybe i will just wait to end of november. Then its pretty much 1 year iam waiting for a 3000 series upgrade, due to the fact i was not upgrading the whole rig because 2000 series was a prototype card for me to test rtx in drivers and games

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 06:08:33 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...
 





As far as I can see on the store the pricing is without VAT though that kinda surprised me. Cards still ending up to be €900 is kinda sad.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 06:29:02 (permalink)
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What I would recommended is setting up the Auto Notify on the card you want. Keep in mind if you get the email that it's in stock and you miss out you need to sign up again to get notified the next time.



I still haven't received the Auto Notify from yesterdays launch... doesn't give me much faith in your notification system.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 07:39:23 (permalink)
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Yes, all versions of GPU's will see a stream of restocking on a regular basis. (Small replenishments)
 
It has been discussed many times, the FTW versions should be out in a few days.




Let's hope eVGA gets their act together and their web store is ACTUALLY WORKING.
 
I swear...YOU KNOW IT'S COMING. Work on stability, for Gods sake.
 

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 07:43:11 (permalink)
Adorama has some EVGA 3080s for sale while on backorder. I'm tempted but I think I'll wait.
https://www.adorama.com/ev10g53897kr.html
 

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/18 08:04:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Aqulex84 2020/09/19 00:52:33
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...
 



I don't live in the EU, but I see a price that says without VAT, VAT, and the total (which is the price without VAT (otherwise known as the base cost of the card) + VAT).
 
What's the problem again? The fact that they show you what the VAT cost is? Or, perhaps you live in Norway or another non-EU country and didn't read the red "Please Note:" label there at the bottom and are concerned that they did add a VAT in?
post edited by arestavo - 2020/09/18 08:06:58
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 00:54:50 (permalink)
I had a quick check on one of our German techsellers and yesterday evening i was able to pre order the FTW3 Ultra and for a time of like 2 hours there was a "in stock at 25.9.2020" info box showing. Lets hope the best that those cards arrive late next week. hopefully the scalpers will focus even more on the 3090 release so 3080 buyers got the chance to buy restocked xc3 and ftw3 models 

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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 03:59:35 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...
 



I don't live in the EU, but I see a price that says without VAT, VAT, and the total (which is the price without VAT (otherwise known as the base cost of the card) + VAT).
 
What's the problem again? The fact that they show you what the VAT cost is? Or, perhaps you live in Norway or another non-EU country and didn't read the red "Please Note:" label there at the bottom and are concerned that they did add a VAT in?




Reading a comment before replying to it can help sometimes.
 
He was saying how the MSRP (in this case the 739€) normally includes VAT and not excludes VAT. If you'd buy an EVGA card in the EU at literally any retailer one would normally have to pay just the MSRP and not MSRP + VAT. The latter makes the card extremely expensive (902€ for an XC3 Black, you'll get an FTW3 Ultra for less elsewhere) and thus makes it really unappealing to buy a card here.
 
I don't agree with his claim that it's "broken" since you can technically buy one when they come in stock but it's just hella expensive.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 04:00:55 (permalink)
It's most likely an error as their store terms say all prices include VAT in the EU.
post edited by unox22 - 2020/09/19 04:04:49
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 04:12:24 (permalink)
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It's most likely an error as their store terms say all prices include VAT in the EU.



Yep, they also removed the prices on the EU store now. Hopefully they are working on it.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 05:53:05 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...
 



I don't live in the EU, but I see a price that says without VAT, VAT, and the total (which is the price without VAT (otherwise known as the base cost of the card) + VAT).
 
What's the problem again? The fact that they show you what the VAT cost is? Or, perhaps you live in Norway or another non-EU country and didn't read the red "Please Note:" label there at the bottom and are concerned that they did add a VAT in?




Reading a comment before replying to it can help sometimes.
 
He was saying how the MSRP (in this case the 739€) normally includes VAT and not excludes VAT. If you'd buy an EVGA card in the EU at literally any retailer one would normally have to pay just the MSRP and not MSRP + VAT. The latter makes the card extremely expensive (902€ for an XC3 Black, you'll get an FTW3 Ultra for less elsewhere) and thus makes it really unappealing to buy a card here.
 
I don't agree with his claim that it's "broken" since you can technically buy one when they come in stock but it's just hella expensive.


Interesting- I didn't realize that companies had to pay the VAT out of their MSRP (729 USD / 729 Euro). That sounds like they'd have to jack the prices up on everything otherwise they'd make no money. I always thought of a VAT as a tax that the consumer had to pay, and not the company. Thank God I don't live in the EU.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 05:56:20 (permalink)
By the time this get's fixed all prices have already been jacked up and delivery will be november.
 
IF somebody even finds the courage to admit it was a fault, since what we see now are the regular prices for october !
 
As a European fanboy for evga i feel like a fool right now who is beeing taken advantage of.
 
Even Caseking who did have the correct prices did jack them up so much that right now,
it does not matter if i have payed twice the VAT yesterday or normal VAT after this gets fixed. It will be the same price !
 
One dude in your team screwed the whole of Europe over dear Team-Evga.
He did even get the prices to over 22.000,00 € yesterday for a short period of time.
 
Either way this time around we loyal European EVGA shop buyers have to pay almost a fifth on top.
 
It would be very appreciated if you don't sweep this under the rug and get us some sort of preorder arrangement for the original prices that don't have twice the VAT or the  october markup included.
And kindly clear customs in an manner that the postal service does not want another round of VAT in cash on delivery.
 
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 06:19:27 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...
 



I don't live in the EU, but I see a price that says without VAT, VAT, and the total (which is the price without VAT (otherwise known as the base cost of the card) + VAT).
 
What's the problem again? The fact that they show you what the VAT cost is? Or, perhaps you live in Norway or another non-EU country and didn't read the red "Please Note:" label there at the bottom and are concerned that they did add a VAT in?




Reading a comment before replying to it can help sometimes.
 
He was saying how the MSRP (in this case the 739€) normally includes VAT and not excludes VAT. If you'd buy an EVGA card in the EU at literally any retailer one would normally have to pay just the MSRP and not MSRP + VAT. The latter makes the card extremely expensive (902€ for an XC3 Black, you'll get an FTW3 Ultra for less elsewhere) and thus makes it really unappealing to buy a card here.
 
I don't agree with his claim that it's "broken" since you can technically buy one when they come in stock but it's just hella expensive.


Interesting- I didn't realize that companies had to pay the VAT out of their MSRP (729 USD / 729 Euro). That sounds like they'd have to jack the prices up on everything otherwise they'd make no money. I always thought of a VAT as a tax that the consumer had to pay, and not the company. Thank God I don't live in the EU.



It's not the company that is paying the VAT. One Euro does not equal one Dollar, in fact 729 USD are ~615 Euro. If you add 19% VAT to that we're at ~731 Euro which is basically the MSRP.
 
The only difference here is that VAT is already included in the MSRP (which I actually prefer since I directly know how much I'll have to pay) while it seems to be common for US stores to have a lower MSRP upfront with extra tax at the checkout.
 
What EVGA is doing here is basically collecting the VAT twice. First in their MSRP and later at the checkout.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 06:38:11 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...




I don't live in the EU, but I see a price that says without VAT, VAT, and the total (which is the price without VAT (otherwise known as the base cost of the card) + VAT).

What's the problem again? The fact that they show you what the VAT cost is? Or, perhaps you live in Norway or another non-EU country and didn't read the red "Please Note:" label there at the bottom and are concerned that they did add a VAT in?




Reading a comment before replying to it can help sometimes.

He was saying how the MSRP (in this case the 739€) normally includes VAT and not excludes VAT. If you'd buy an EVGA card in the EU at literally any retailer one would normally have to pay just the MSRP and not MSRP + VAT. The latter makes the card extremely expensive (902€ for an XC3 Black, you'll get an FTW3 Ultra for less elsewhere) and thus makes it really unappealing to buy a card here.

I don't agree with his claim that it's "broken" since you can technically buy one when they come in stock but it's just hella expensive.


Interesting- I didn't realize that companies had to pay the VAT out of their MSRP (729 USD / 729 Euro). That sounds like they'd have to jack the prices up on everything otherwise they'd make no money. I always thought of a VAT as a tax that the consumer had to pay, and not the company. Thank God I don't live in the EU.



It's not the company that is paying the VAT. One Euro does not equal one Dollar, in fact 729 USD are ~615 Euro. If you add 19% VAT to that we're at ~731 Euro which is basically the MSRP.
 
The only difference here is that VAT is already included in the MSRP (which I actually prefer since I directly know how much I'll have to pay) while it seems to be common for US stores to have a lower MSRP upfront with extra tax at the checkout.
 
What EVGA is doing here is basically collecting the VAT twice. First in their MSRP and later at the checkout.


Hmm, my Google-fu may be broken, but the $699 3080 is showing as 699 euros for MSRP. I even turned on a VPN to Germany and checked out Nvidia's site - still 699 euros - https://www.nvidia.com/de...ds/30-series/rtx-3080/

I think you're getting your hopes up, bud.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 06:48:48 (permalink)
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Too bad EU customers won't be able to buy anything if it comes in stock, because the shop is broken...



Why is it broken? iam a EU customer as well and its up and running. Its just out of stock .



It charges VAT on prices that are supposed to be with VAT, so in checkout you start with 900€...




I don't live in the EU, but I see a price that says without VAT, VAT, and the total (which is the price without VAT (otherwise known as the base cost of the card) + VAT).

What's the problem again? The fact that they show you what the VAT cost is? Or, perhaps you live in Norway or another non-EU country and didn't read the red "Please Note:" label there at the bottom and are concerned that they did add a VAT in?




Reading a comment before replying to it can help sometimes.

He was saying how the MSRP (in this case the 739€) normally includes VAT and not excludes VAT. If you'd buy an EVGA card in the EU at literally any retailer one would normally have to pay just the MSRP and not MSRP + VAT. The latter makes the card extremely expensive (902€ for an XC3 Black, you'll get an FTW3 Ultra for less elsewhere) and thus makes it really unappealing to buy a card here.

I don't agree with his claim that it's "broken" since you can technically buy one when they come in stock but it's just hella expensive.


Interesting- I didn't realize that companies had to pay the VAT out of their MSRP (729 USD / 729 Euro). That sounds like they'd have to jack the prices up on everything otherwise they'd make no money. I always thought of a VAT as a tax that the consumer had to pay, and not the company. Thank God I don't live in the EU.



It's not the company that is paying the VAT. One Euro does not equal one Dollar, in fact 729 USD are ~615 Euro. If you add 19% VAT to that we're at ~731 Euro which is basically the MSRP.
 
The only difference here is that VAT is already included in the MSRP (which I actually prefer since I directly know how much I'll have to pay) while it seems to be common for US stores to have a lower MSRP upfront with extra tax at the checkout.
 
What EVGA is doing here is basically collecting the VAT twice. First in their MSRP and later at the checkout.


Hmm, my Google-fu may be broken, but the $699 3080 is showing as 699 euros for MSRP. I even turned on a VPN to Germany and checked out Nvidia's site - still 699 euros -

I think you're getting your hopes up, bud.


Yes, but that €699 on Nvidia's site already INCLUDES VAT. Lmao.
EDIT: That's why on the Dutch nivdia store it's €719. Because it already includes VAT and our VAT is slightly higher than Germany's.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 06:48:53 (permalink)
That €699 includes VAT. If you're from the US logic might confuse you, but that's the reality and always had been. PS5 is $499 in US and people pay state tax on it. It's €499 in Europe and VAT is included, they don't charge extra VAT on it. Simple actually.
 
Just from looking at the screenshot, one who lives in Europe immediately understands that the VAT written is totally seems extra. €739 already translates to $875 which is already higher than EVGA's price. $875 / 1.20 (VAT) already gives you $729 which you can deduct that the tax is already included.
 
Additional VAT makes it $1067. 
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 06:55:31 (permalink)
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Hmm, my Google-fu may be broken, but the $699 3080 is showing as 699 euros for MSRP. I even turned on a VPN to Germany and checked out Nvidia's site - still 699 euros -

I think you're getting your hopes up, bud.



Did I claim something different? I took the price you mentioned in your comment, not FE. 729€ was an example anyway, you can do the same maths for any price.
 
And I'm actually not quite sure what you mean by "getting your hopes up", I was simply explaining to you how VAT in the EU work, nothing more.
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 07:06:36 (permalink)
My bad - I always though that in the EU/UK, US companies charged (mostly) the same basic number as in the US. E.g., $699, 699 euro, 699 pounds. Even before VAT.

Guess not!
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Re: Restock of the XC3 and In stock times for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming 2020/09/19 08:02:27 (permalink)
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