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It seems the PCBs are non-reference on every EVGA 3090 model. I appreciate that because size is an issue with the FE.
The 3090 XC3 appears to have the same PCB as the 3080. Is this the case? If so, waterblock compatibility should be about the same.
Hopefully someone from EVGA can clarify. Thanks.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/01 16:11:00
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I hope they can comment. I doubt the ftw3 cards are reference pcb but usually the xc/black cards usually are. I just want to know so I know what to order for waterblocks when they come out? Looks like Only the king pin and ftw3 use a custom pcb according to a post in the main thread I asked about. So we should be good with the xc3 and any hybrid card/hc non ftw3 will work with reference blocks
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/01 16:39:07
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Yeah, there are a few issues though: 3080 uses 2x8pin, 3090 AIB all seem to use 3x8pin. 3080 blocks probably won't have 3x cutouts! Agh. Finding a block for the non-FE 3090 is going to be a nightmare.
Clearly Nvidia has a standard, non-FE PCB since partners like Zotac, Gigabyte, and EVGA all have 3090 models that aren't protruding past the PCI bracket. Hopefully EKWB and EVGA still work closely together.
Since the 3090 FE with a block is going to be 163mm+, this is going to be quite hard to plan around.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/01 17:11:25
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jk0520
Yeah, there are a few issues though: 3080 uses 2x8pin, 3090 AIB all seem to use 3x8pin. 3080 blocks probably won't have 3x cutouts! Agh. Finding a block for the non-FE 3090 is going to be a nightmare.
Clearly Nvidia has a standard, non-FE PCB since partners like Zotac, Gigabyte, and EVGA all have 3090 models that aren't protruding past the PCI bracket. Hopefully EKWB and EVGA still work closely together.
Since the 3090 FE with a block is going to be 163mm+, this is going to be quite hard to plan around.
I signed up for EKWB newsletter so we shall see what happens, it would be cool to have a ftw3 block at or close to launch. I’ll post here any new info I find out.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/01 19:23:17
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jk0520
Yeah, there are a few issues though: 3080 uses 2x8pin, 3090 AIB all seem to use 3x8pin. 3080 blocks probably won't have 3x cutouts! Agh. Finding a block for the non-FE 3090 is going to be a nightmare.
Clearly Nvidia has a standard, non-FE PCB since partners like Zotac, Gigabyte, and EVGA all have 3090 models that aren't protruding past the PCI bracket. Hopefully EKWB and EVGA still work closely together.
Since the 3090 FE with a block is going to be 163mm+, this is going to be quite hard to plan around.
EVGA stated the model in question, 3090 is 2 x 8 pin PCI-e. I was worried about this as I am sure many are which is probably why EVGA and apparetnly some other vendors are making a 3090 with the same width as previous cards. Watercooling. I bet EK makes a block that works on the EVGA, Zotac, and Gigabyte models that all appear to be built on the same PCB.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/01 19:35:17
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gutcheck
jk0520
Yeah, there are a few issues though: 3080 uses 2x8pin, 3090 AIB all seem to use 3x8pin. 3080 blocks probably won't have 3x cutouts! Agh. Finding a block for the non-FE 3090 is going to be a nightmare.
Clearly Nvidia has a standard, non-FE PCB since partners like Zotac, Gigabyte, and EVGA all have 3090 models that aren't protruding past the PCI bracket. Hopefully EKWB and EVGA still work closely together.
Since the 3090 FE with a block is going to be 163mm+, this is going to be quite hard to plan around.
EVGA stated the model in question, 3090 is 2 x 8 pin PCI-e. I was worried about this as I am sure many are which is probably why EVGA and apparetnly some other vendors are making a 3090 with the same width as previous cards. Watercooling. I bet EK makes a block that works on the EVGA, Zotac, and Gigabyte models that all appear to be built on the same PCB.
Are you sure about the 3090 2x 8 pin. I might have misread earlier but I thought it was confirmed that the 3090's will be 3x 6 pin.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/01 19:43:41
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Please be aware there is nothing that refers to as "reference" anymore and any waterblock by a 3rd party will need to be confirmed by them, not EVGA. Until the cards are actually released, this is all speculation and we have only provided renders of what the card design should look like. We would recommend to wait until the actual product pages with physical pictures in regards to the cards itself are up on the website.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/03 09:01:29
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Please be aware there is nothing that refers to as "reference" anymore and any waterblock by a 3rd party will need to be confirmed by them, not EVGA. Until the cards are actually released, this is all speculation and we have only provided renders of what the card design should look like. We would recommend to wait until the actual product pages with physical pictures in regards to the cards itself are up on the website.
what do you mean by no reference exactly? isn't there is PG132 for vendors to follow? you guys will release full picture of pcb later on the product pages?? sounds good.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/03 09:20:28
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Actually, the FE are _not_ reference PCB this time around :-)
Usually on EVGA's side, the XC are reference, and the rest are "custom".
Now it could be that EK and other brands manage to design a block that works on all of them either way.
We won't know until they release compatibility lists.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/03 09:36:50
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Xaelias
Actually, the FE are _not_ reference PCB this time around :-)
Usually on EVGA's side, the XC are reference, and the rest are "custom".
Now it could be that EK and other brands manage to design a block that works on all of them either way.
We won't know until they release compatibility lists.
Fe is not reference says ekwb 3080/3090 block product site....
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/03 09:38:57
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Jusiz
Xaelias
Actually, the FE are _not_ reference PCB this time around :-)
Usually on EVGA's side, the XC are reference, and the rest are "custom".
Now it could be that EK and other brands manage to design a block that works on all of them either way.
We won't know until they release compatibility lists.
Fe is not reference says ekwb...
FE are the only cards I'm aware of using the 12-pin. We can phrase it however you want. Either FE are not reference. Or nobody else is making a reference PCB but they are somewhat agreeing on another design, thus creating a second reference PCB. Doesn't really matter to me how we call these :-)
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/03 10:42:12
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EVGATech_DanielM
Please be aware there is nothing that refers to as "reference" anymore and any waterblock by a 3rd party will need to be confirmed by them, not EVGA. Until the cards are actually released, this is all speculation and we have only provided renders of what the card design should look like. We would recommend to wait until the actual product pages with physical pictures in regards to the cards itself are up on the website.
So does this mean that the XC3 has no advantage over the FTW3 for waterblock compatibility?
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/09/03 13:09:17
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Please be aware there is nothing that refers to as "reference" anymore and any waterblock by a 3rd party will need to be confirmed by them, not EVGA. Until the cards are actually released, this is all speculation and we have only provided renders of what the card design should look like. We would recommend to wait until the actual product pages with physical pictures in regards to the cards itself are up on the website.
So does this mean that the XC3 has no advantage over the FTW3 for waterblock compatibility?
We can only tell you we don't know for sure and will need to hear from the waterblock manufacturers so many different way ;-) EK seem to think there is somewhat a "reference" design. Which is not what the FE is using. That's the extent of the information we have so far.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/15 14:01:57
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/15 16:55:53
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At least they gave us hope with the FTW3 being available within weeks.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/15 19:10:53
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So apparently the alphacool and Bykski will fit the XC3 models. It just doesn't cover the entire PCB so it not the most elegant solution.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/16 11:09:36
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/27 08:43:40
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Ek released our blocks today:
https://www.ekwb.com/news...c3-rtx-3080-3090-gpus/
So based on EK's compitibility list, 3080/3090 XC3 do not have the same PCB? Only 3080 XC3 are listed as compitible
They say they are going to add to the list, but I do not know but I need to know. I pre-ordered the block for my 3090. Can anyone from EVGA tell us it the 3080 and 3090 have the same PCB? The 3090 hybrid is listed, so it would surprise me if that has a different pcb then the 3090 xc3.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/27 08:48:29
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Here is a picture of them: https://videocardz.com/ne...board-designs-pictured And right from EK's page: EK-Quantum Vector XC3 3080/3090 D-RGB water block is compatible with EVGA XC3 RTX 3080 and 3090 graphics cards. The Vector water block actively cools the GPU, VRAM (on the front), MOSFETs, and chokes in the VRM (voltage regulation module). The water block contacts every single inductor in the VRM area to suppress any potential coil whine.
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/27 09:36:37
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3090 xc3 gaming is in the compatibility list, so I think all xc3's should be good
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Re: 3090 XC3 using 3080 PCB?
2020/10/27 11:45:10
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3090 xc3 gaming is in the compatibility list, so I think all xc3's should be good
Oh good, that's the one I have. I mean it has a picture of the card on the EK site.... I will let you guys know if I ever get a block.
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