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2020/05/28 11:23:35 (permalink)
I bought a evga 2080 ti 1 year ago recently i have had black screens when the card reaches 61c.
I had never had any problems.
I installed a water block just when I had it just recently a week ago I started to have black screens and  the driver uninstalls sometimes.
when I restart the PC, the image is black and white only when I install the driver I goes back to normal.
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I9 9900k
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Motherboard GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS ULTRA bios F10b
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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 11:47:09 (permalink)
    Is the video card overclocked?  (I am assuming yes since it is water cooled and everything)  If it is, remove the overclock and see if the problem persists.
     
    Otherwise, it sounds like it could be a Windows driver update issue.  That would explain the screen going black (while swapping the driver to a generic Windows driver or an otherwise bad driver), and the appearance that the driver is being uninstalled without your wishes. Make sure you have Windows update driver downloading disabled.
     

     
    If automatic driver downloads are enabled in Windows update, all kinds of weird issues can occur.
     
     

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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 12:36:33 (permalink)
    I tried to uninstall the drivers for a old version.
    fresh install windows.
    I tried Windows update driver downloading disabled  solution you suggested.
    underclock the card core clock and Memory clock.
    none of this worked.
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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 13:24:22 (permalink)
    Sounds like you need to put the stock cooler back on to see if that fixes the black screen issue.
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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 13:48:55 (permalink)
    Water Cooled GPU & 61C does not compute ... something is terribly wrong if your getting that hot
     
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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 14:05:40 (permalink)
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    Water Cooled GPU & 61C does not compute ... something is terribly wrong if your getting that hot

    No, it is actually not.
    At my system I can run water at ~38C while my gpu will be at ~46C at full fans (1600 rpm), on aggressive fan profile (1200 rpm) I am getting ~ 42C water and ~50C gpu and on silent fan profile (~900rpm) I am getting ~52C water and 60C gpu.
     
    So it is nothing wrong to have watercooled gpu going up to 60C. Depends on radiator setup and fan rpm.

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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 14:16:15 (permalink)
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    Water Cooled GPU & 61C does not compute ... something is terribly wrong if your getting that hot

    No, it is actually not.
    At my system I can run water at ~38C while my gpu will be at ~46C at full fans (1600 rpm), on aggressive fan profile (1200 rpm) I am getting ~ 42C water and ~50C gpu and on silent fan profile (~900rpm) I am getting ~52C water and 60C gpu.
     
    So it is nothing wrong to have watercooled gpu going up to 60C. Depends on radiator setup and fan rpm.


     
     
     
    I guess if you want to force high temps you can:
     
    Stop or reduce fans
    Stop reduce pump
     
    Build an under sized radiator system
     
    Place your PC in a hot room or attic
     
    Even My 3 Titan X pascals run below 47C ... with the CPU on the same loop 90% loads 24/7
     


    The OP mentioned "Black screen @ 61 C"  ... so why let it get that hot ... best GHz is Below 50C on the RTX 2080 Ti

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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 14:36:57 (permalink)
    You mean additional 15-30mhz? :) Thats not so much, while silent pc is a huge win for someone who doesnt like headphones like me.
     
    My card is running at 2100mhz with aggressive fan profile, and I can get higher only if I cool it down to 40C (~15C room temp, 2130) or 44C (~20C room, 2115) - and that is way uncomfortable with both room temperature and noise level.
    I believe next frequency drop is 52C, next somewhere between 55-60C and next is even higher, so I am getting ~2070mhz on silent profile loosing only ~2% of performance, but letting my pc runs very quiet so I can down volume level of my speakers which is great for night gaming.
    Even if my frequency will drop down to 2040 or even to 2010 - that still only 3-4% of overal performance loss. 
     
    And card is made to run up to 89C, while pump can run up to 65C water temp, so why not? The only concern of that silent profile of mine is that my HDDs is warming up to 47C and my ram is going up to 60C, I don't like it, but at the same time HDD can stay temperatures up to 50C with no harm and RAM specs shows 85C max temp. CPU is not troubled at all especially under gaming load.
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    Re: black screens when the card reaches 61c 2020/05/28 16:44:26 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Sounds like you need to put the stock cooler back on to see if that fixes the black screen issue.


    I agree.  A water block mounting issue can cause these problems.
     
    GPU temperature reported by NVIDIA's driver is average GPU core temperature of multiple core temperature sensors.  There's a Gamers Nexus video somewhere about this subject.  It's not possible to see individual core temperature sensors, and it is not possible to see the max temperature of any of the individual sensors.  If one corner of the GPU core isn't being cooled due to a mounting issue or too little thermal paste, the average temperature may appear to be mediocre-ly ok, but still cause that corner to overheat and cause the GPU to shut off due to thermal limit protection.

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