Do you plan to support Z490 dark with pcie gen 4 for future CPU types? Rocket lake will have PCI Gen 4.

Gigabyte and Asrock boards have this listed future Gen 4 compatibility on their marketing slides and motherboard manual. And MSI's toppc (in house overclocker) confirmed that PCI gen 4 will be supported on Z490 MSI boards.

vegajf51
I can't answer for EVGA but I don't see why they can't as the chipset on the board is still pci-e Gen 3. Intel's Z490 pcie gen 4 implementation is identical the AMD's Budget B550 which means only the CPU lanes are Gen 4 which is much easier and cheaper to implement. X570 also has a Gen 4 chipset so the entire board is gen 4 which drove up cost due to more redrivers for the slots far away from the chipset and CPU. So as long as EVGA doesn't us crap traces it should be just a simple bios update.

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-intel-z490-motherboards-will-support-11th-gen-rocket-lake-s
 
Gigabyte motherboard marketing says theirs is equipped with pcie4 compliant PCB
 
 
No reason why the flagship 700usd board from EVGA can't?

GenjoKoan
Intel's Z490 spec sheet says PCIe 3.0 with no mention of 4.0 at all.  I just read it.  meh.

That is correct for Comet lake, we are talking about when Rocket Lake comes out could you update the bios and get some Gen 4 cpu lanes on the board, the chipset will always be Gen 3 though. I fully expect a new board to launch with Rocket Lake Z590??.... that has fully pcie gen 4 support including the chipset to compete with AMD's X570.

Come on guys, you know we cannot discuss, confirm/deny, or provide any details about anything related to a third-party's unreleased products - Even if other companies choose to do so.

STR8_AN94BALLER

EVGATech_LeeM
Come on guys, you know we cannot discuss, confirm/deny, or provide any details about anything related to a third-party's unreleased products - Even if other companies choose to do so.

 
Sort of
 
"We will support PCI Gen 4 in the future for Z490 boards. Therefore we will suggest (force) you to buy new generation of motherboard with if you want to use PCI Gen 4 with Rocket Lake CPUs."
 
Yes? No?

He literally just said he can't confirm or deny anything and you are asking him to confirm or deny? 

CraptacularOne

STR8_AN94BALLER

EVGATech_LeeM
Come on guys, you know we cannot discuss, confirm/deny, or provide any details about anything related to a third-party's unreleased products - Even if other companies choose to do so.

 
Sort of
 
"We will support PCI Gen 4 in the future for Z490 boards. Therefore we will suggest (force) you to buy new generation of motherboard with if you want to use PCI Gen 4 with Rocket Lake CPUs."
 
Yes? No?

He literally just said he can't confirm or deny anything and you are asking him to confirm or deny? 

:)

the_Scarlet_one
It boggles my mind how an official response is that “we can not confirm or deny” and users still say “we are only asking you to confirm or deny.... why aren’t you confirming or denying?”

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Is EVGA somehow not able to let customers know if their boards support PCIE 4.0/ready, yet other board partners are? I imagine that wouldn't sit well with EVGA and obviously is a huge marketing disadvantage. Right now all we can do is assume EVGA Z490 boards are not hardware compliant and will not support PCIE 4.0 if/when that support comes. 

gaubry

the_Scarlet_one
It boggles my mind how an official response is that “we can not confirm or deny” and users still say “we are only asking you to confirm or deny.... why aren’t you confirming or denying?”

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Is EVGA somehow not able to let customers know if their boards support PCIE 4.0/ready, yet other board partners are? I imagine that wouldn't sit well with EVGA and obviously is a huge marketing disadvantage. Right now all we can do is assume EVGA Z490 boards are not hardware compliant and will not support PCIE 4.0 if/when that support comes. 

There is no way to say it better... please read Lee’s message... again... verbatim...

EVGATech_LeeM
Come on guys, you know we cannot discuss, confirm/deny, or provide any details about anything related to a third-party's unreleased products - Even if other companies choose to do so.

The only thing I can do after this is to make the text bigger so it is easier to read.. you asked exactly what he just said, after I said people ask the exact same thing that was just said... *mind blown* this stuff can’t be made up. It isn’t April 1st or I would think this is just a joke.


https://ark.intel.com/con...ntel-z490-chipset.html

https://ark.intel.com/con...he-up-to-5-30-ghz.html

Intel spec sheet does not label z490 as PCIe 4.0, only as PCIe 3.0. According to their own information, from their own webpage, currently, the answer is no. Z590 and the 11900k may support PCIe 4.0, but it is not showing that the cpu or the chipset will be PCIe 4.0 according to their website.

Don’t forget, Intel likes to change things prior to launch, and they won’t give clear and concise feedback, as the “marketing slides” had actual bad information that has since been removed.

Don’t forget, the 7980xe was not officially going to be supported until Intel walked on stage and announced “there will be an 18 core 7980xe as well” and that was ALL of the warning that motherboard manufacturers were given about the launch. Prior to Intel telling the world, it was only up to a 12 core processor to replace the 6950x that had 10 cores. All I can say is be patient for like 20 days... when everything is officially launched, and not a paper launch.

the_Scarlet_one
Don’t forget, the 7980xe was not officially going to be supported until Intel walked on stage and announced “there will be an 18 core 7980xe as well” and that was ALL of the warning that motherboard manufacturers were given about the launch. Prior to Intel telling the world, it was only up to a 12 core processor to replace the 6950x that had 10 cores. All I can say is be patient for like 20 days... when everything is officially launched, and not a paper launch.

Well they were blindside by AMD launching a 16 core threadripper.... they had to make a change quickly to stay ahead. That was the moment when everyone actually felt the effect of competition in the CPU market.
 
But you are 100% correct, until its actually launched everything is subject to change.

The only thing you can do is wait for next gen CPUs after May 2020 and wait to see what information Intel and their partners release at that time. 

If you been following EVGA over the years, they don't go into much detail about unreleased Motherboard or GPU's. Other mfg might but EVGA stays silent.
 

Stoltzman1972
I do not know why, but i kind of fell in love with Z490 FTW board, this is a kind of hardware i would want to buy for my next build, it has both the looks and the function but i never seen one officially sold in my country. Maybe i will find a way to get it.
If intel could just come out and say: "hey folks you know what? socket 1200 boards will recieve a bios update that will enable 11xxx series cpu's and also pci gen 4 on Z490 chipset!"
It's almost as if their marketing people are afraid their 10xxx line up will look like it's already obsolete (which is true to some extent, because if the rumors are true the 11xxx are coming just a few months after).
In any case i doubt EVGA will manufacture the boards with different standarts than any other manufacturer, so if MSI and Gigabyte claim their boards are gen 4 ready - there is no reason for EVGA not to be. If intel comes out in the open with this i will just buy the board and put it on a shelf until 11xxx comes out :P

 
Why not just wait for 11xxx to come out to see what motherboards are on the market then. Motherboard mfg will probably come out with a new motherboard for 11xxx. Maybe Intel will finally wake up and give mainstream CPU's the much needed extra PCIE lanes finally for 11xxx. 
 
 
 
 
 

Only EVGA have not confirmed Z490 to work with PCIE4
 
Meaning that they will force us to buy new boards to support PCIE4 in the future!
 
 
ASUS boards work with PCI Gen 4, even the M.2 slot: https://www.cool3c.com/article/153618
 
 
How shameful :(

Kylearan

STR8_AN94BALLER
Only EVGA have not confirmed Z490 to work with PCIE4
 
Meaning that they will force us to buy new boards to support PCIE4 in the future!
 
 
ASUS boards work with PCI Gen 4, even the M.2 slot: https://www.cool3c.com/article/153618
 
 
How shameful :(

That's because PCIE Gen 4 will come from the CPU.  The x16 PCIE slot is fed from the CPU.
If the eVGA Dark supports Rocket Lake, it will also support Gen 4 on any lanes that are fed from the CPU

^ This
 
Why so salty no one is forcing you to do anything. You have a choice there is not EVGA gun pointed to your head. They're likely under NDA as others have said and are playing it safe to not confirm anything until Intel says so which they have not. 

Why can’t EVGA confirm now?