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2020/04/27 19:11:08 (permalink)
I have no idea why but my output today is lower than usual.
No stalled sends, on either computer, today when I got home.
Basement nice and toasty..lol
Even the last threat disappeared
BUT I only produced...

Don't know why, were WU's longer and harder today?
 

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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/27 21:01:40 (permalink)
    Yes, long WUs with a new Core22 version.
    Better utilization of the GPU cores.


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/27 21:29:59 (permalink)
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    Yes, long WUs with a new Core22 version.
    Better utilization of the GPU cores.

    So I wasn't imagining it and it isn't just me then..





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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/28 03:01:06 (permalink)
    My estimated in the client has gone down with these new 22's. However, I'm getting more consistent work.


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/28 08:26:52 (permalink)
    I noticed my new setup is using Core 22 version 0.0.5 whereas the systems I already had setup are using 0.0.2
    Should I reinstall on the other systems to utilize 0.0.5 ?


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/28 08:32:56 (permalink)
    All WU are different ... it is the sandbox we play in
     
    Yes my PPD has dropped the last several days. 

    Though from time to time I see a Slot, stuck - upload attempt 14 ... it does not explain the current drop in Rewards
     
     
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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/28 11:10:44 (permalink)
    Just set HFM.net up on my laptop to monitor my 4 rigs and it was super easy since I'm only concerned with LAN connection.  Works with 7.6.11 & 7.6.12 clients, not sure about earlier ones
     
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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/28 14:22:43 (permalink)
    Hfm.net has minor issues with the latest client, but still reports the basics just fine. There is a planned update to hfm.net to adjust.


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/29 15:37:03 (permalink)
    If it's the case you're running mentioned in the pm, it's probably due to the pcie x1 limitation,
    Which is why I would never go with a mining board for folding.
     
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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/29 17:28:52 (permalink)
    I explained that the board is 16X at the moment and when I start using all 4 slots it will be 8X





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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/29 17:50:27 (permalink)
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    I explained that the board is 16X at the moment and when I start using all 4 slots it will be 8X


    Are your cards plugged directly into the pci slots on the mobo currently ? or are you using extensions? risers?


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/29 18:37:05 (permalink)
    Everything is direct...
    I haven't gotten the Rosewill's yet.
    (they are sitting south of the border, I ordered flat 90 degree 30cm risers and I will need to extend them)
    It is the same setup I had before. Two gpu's on two different mobo's
    I just think the WU's themselves are larger and take allot of time to do ...
     
    Some seemed to credit less as well
    Just whining...lol
    The estimates of PPD have been less than 2mill for 2 gpu's and just lately they have been creeping back up to 2.4 ish ppd.
    post edited by SmookinJoe - 2020/04/29 19:20:23





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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/29 19:10:32 (permalink)
    Having issues with 16435 on 2060KO, only showing 577K PPD whereas it's normally 1.1-1.3M PPD.
    I took a look at the system and it's running all out for 5 sec and then GPU goes way down for 5 sec.
    Also, it's running on Core 22 0.0.5
     


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/29 20:22:39 (permalink)
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    Having issues with 16435 on 2060KO, only showing 577K PPD whereas it's normally 1.1-1.3M PPD.
    I took a look at the system and it's running all out for 5 sec and then GPU goes way down for 5 sec.
    Also, it's running on Core 22 0.0.5
     


    Is the beta flag on?
    I actually had one of my gpu's running at less than 50% on one of the test WU's..
    Today I came home and couple of gpu's were READY...
    Each gpu is NOW beta flagged and the global setting is NOW Advanced..
    We will see how things improve...or not..lol





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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/30 04:32:01 (permalink)
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    Having issues with 16435 on 2060KO, only showing 577K PPD whereas it's normally 1.1-1.3M PPD.
    I took a look at the system and it's running all out for 5 sec and then GPU goes way down for 5 sec.
    Also, it's running on Core 22 0.0.5

    Is the beta flag on?
    I actually had one of my gpu's running at less than 50% on one of the test WU's..
    Today I came home and couple of gpu's were READY...
    Each gpu is NOW beta flagged and the global setting is NOW Advanced..
    We will see how things improve...or not..lol

    Not on beta or advanced flag.
    Only system that is running on 0.0.5 Core 22 though.  It is the older Phenom X6 system though, too.


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/04/30 10:19:26 (permalink)
    Having issue with another WU on same computer.  WU is 14438 and it will be at 92-93% utilization for 2min30sec then go to 0% for 30sec.
    Any ideas what it might be?
    Having issues with yet another WU 16435
    Here's what GPU-Z & Afterburner are showing when this happens...any ideas?  It's killing PPD

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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/01 19:15:38 (permalink)
    Out in left field here...
    Have you exempted the Fahclient and all it's sub directories from your antivirus?





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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/02 05:44:19 (permalink)
    Not running any additional antivirus other than Win10 built-in


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/02 10:09:13 (permalink)
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    Not running any additional antivirus other than Win10 built-in


    You should see if you can exempt the FAH client folders...
    Bottom line taken from this link
    https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/windows/requirements/
    I did a search and found a number of references to that wu here
    https://foldingforum.org/search.php?keywords=16435
    Good Luck
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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/02 13:26:44 (permalink)
    SmookinJoe
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    Not running any additional antivirus other than Win10 built-in


    You should see if you can exempt the FAH client folders...
    Bottom line taken from this link
    https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/windows/requirements/
    I did a search and found a number of references to that wu here
    https://foldingforum.org/search.php?keywords=16435
    Good Luck


    Thanks for the info.  I got the system switched over to Linux Mint and it's running better.


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/02 14:09:00 (permalink)
    Was just about to suggest you dual boot with Linux. Be cautious of dual boot if you are running a raid array. Not sure if it is still an issue But I have had issues where I had windows on my C drive which was a striped set of ssd's and dual booted with Linux on another drive. Linux ended up needing a bit of room and borrowed a portion of one of the C disks. It took a bit of work to get windows to open again. That was 2 years ago or more.
    I am (still) currently undergoing a major relocation process of my Linux rigs and tossed my best gpu's into my 2 windows rigs, the PPD difference is almost sickening. 


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/02 14:25:57 (permalink)
    STR1D3R_2
    Was just about to suggest you dual boot with Linux. Be cautious of dual boot if you are running a raid array. Not sure if it is still an issue But I have had issues where I had windows on my C drive which was a striped set of ssd's and dual booted with Linux on another drive. Linux ended up needing a bit of room and borrowed a portion of one of the C disks. It took a bit of work to get windows to open again. That was 2 years ago or more.
    I am (still) currently undergoing a major relocation process of my Linux rigs and tossed my best gpu's into my 2 windows rigs, the PPD difference is almost sickening. 


    What kind of difference in ppd are you seeing?  I was only getting about 800K ppd on Win10 and I've seen 1.1-1.2M ppd on the 1st couple WUs on Linux!


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    Re: PPD seems low 2020/05/02 14:38:45 (permalink)
    Let me make sure I state this correctly, by sickening I do mean I nearly want to vomit. l o l
     
    2 1070's  on my mint rig were averaging 1.6 to 1.9 million ppd (combined) occasionally over 2mil
    on Win7 they are getting (best I've seen) 1 to 1.1 million ppd  (combined) occasionally much less
    I do have a 3rd 1070sc currently not installed
     
    My 1080ti was 1.2 to 1.9 on Linux (have seen 2.2 mil)
    It's now in a Win10 rig getting between 800k to 1.4 mil depending on wu
     
    1080sc was at 800k to 1.6 on Linux
    now in win 10 rig running 580 to 790k
     
    Looking forward to getting my open air Linux rigs mounted to the wall and tossing those back in. Also have a 2060ko ultra in route but delayed due to "conditions beyond our control" (UPS).
     
    My 5 1060's are cleaned up and ready, may part with them or toss them at some crunching, undecided. They ave 450k in Linux and 325k to 400k in win7
     
    post edited by STR1D3R_2 - 2020/05/02 14:52:27


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