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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/21 06:07:06
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So I got a H55 AIO connected. Have two fans on either side of the 120mm with a push/pull config.
Whereas I averaged 74c while gaming at 2k/75fps before the install. It's now Averaging 51c while gaming 2k/75fps
I am calling this a WIN for my personal temperature goal but I still need to achieve the quiet goal AND I cant find a place to mount the Radiator in the P400a without spewing heat back in, OR getting heat spewed on it where mounted.
It just finally dawned on me WHY "the fans" were getting so noisy during 2k/4k. Here I was thinking it was the 2080 cooler but now with the Kraken G12 and VRM fan set to my fan hub I knew it couldn't be that. Listening very closely it's the BQ 750 watt evga PSU fan. I was totally unaware they had fan curves??
If I purchase an evga GQ top of the line 1200watt PSU will that keep the fan speed low because it'll be way above what I'm drawing?
Thanks for all the advice so far, I would have given up and gone back to my 980 without you guys help.
After 4 pages, glad you finally dove into liquid cooling.  Yes, PSUs can be loud if constantly working close to it's max load or at least 60%+ load. Depending on the brand and capacity of the PSU, they can literally stay silent till they hit 50-60% load and slowly crank up when they start to sweat. I can barely hear mine and it's a Corsair AX1200i. I could manually crank up the fan but leave it alone as my PC barely hits 60% load. I think my PC pulls 500-550w on average at max load while gaming or folding. All I hear are the 9 rad fans and 3 case fans. Even my D5 pumps @ 90% are quieter. lol
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/21 13:32:28
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Yeah the pump in the AIO I have at full speed and it's dead silent. I'm very happy with it. :D According to outervision.com psu calculator, where I added up all the components in my system accurately, it recommended 573 PSU wattage. So what PSU should I go for to keep that fan shut the heck up? :) I noticed it also said "Recommended PSU Efficiency 86.72%" This is something else new to me I'm trying to understand. Obviously buying a 1200 platinum evga PSU would cover it but I gotta be budget conscious. Also here is my AIO. I was hoping kevin could take a look at this too as he has the same p400a case as me. The amount of heat this thing spews into the case is tremendous. Having an AIO that pulls heat from the GPU and then spews it directly back onto the GPU and into the case seems counter productive, but I just can't work out where to mount it. Downward into the basement? This is another example of me rushing in without researching  The tubes are only 300mm, I should have gone with a 400mm NZXT one as that at least would allow me to reach the case ceiling and mount it as an exhaust. 
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/21 16:43:54
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2020/02/23 11:36:25
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Yeah the pump in the AIO I have at full speed and it's dead silent. I'm very happy with it. :D
According to outervision.com psu calculator, where I added up all the components in my system accurately, it recommended 573 PSU wattage. So what PSU should I go for to keep that fan shut the heck up? :) I noticed it also said "Recommended PSU Efficiency 86.72%" This is something else new to me I'm trying to understand. Obviously buying a 1200 platinum evga PSU would cover it but I gotta be budget conscious.
Also here is my AIO. I was hoping kevin could take a look at this too as he has the same p400a case as me. The amount of heat this thing spews into the case is tremendous. Having an AIO that pulls heat from the GPU and then spews it directly back onto the GPU and into the case seems counter productive, but I just can't work out where to mount it. Downward into the basement?
This is another example of me rushing in without researching The tubes are only 300mm, I should have gone with a 400mm NZXT one as that at least would allow me to reach the case ceiling and mount it as an exhaust.
If budget permits, no less than 1000w for a PSU. If you can't go that high, see if you can grab a 850w Titanium PSU. Should run more efficient and hopefully quieter since Titanium is the highest ranking IIRC. Platinum which I have is than second and than you have Gold, Silver, Bronze, etc. As for the AIO placement, move it to the upper front area so the rad sits higher than the pump/block on the GPU so any air stays inside the rad or moving it to the top of the case but make sure it's all setup to intake cooler fresher air from the outside and have the rear exhaust it all out. Surely it will go passed the CPU's cooler but for the most part, the CPU's aren't being fully utilized when gaming and benching so therefore, you shouldn't have to worry there unless you're looking to slap a AIO on the CPU as well which most do. Because it's a 120mm AIO, the heat is concentrated in a confine space when it exits from the rad versus say a 240mm which is more rad surface and more heat spread if you will so yes, you will surely feel that heat escape a 120mm rad. Another example is with a 360mm AIO rad, you'll feel the warm but nothing like a 120mm.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/21 20:47:20
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Glad to see you got results you're happy with, I second Jack's advice on tweaks. Along with moving the rad up, you could try the top-front fan again and/or add a pull fan to your cpu cooler and/or remove the top-rear fan.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/21 20:57:06
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Thanks heaps, yeah it looks like it's $$$ to get rid of the PSU noise.
Do you mean replace the front top fan with the radiator and its fans?
How do I make it reach the upper front section? See how the way the tubes point down and then they curve around, this is my first AIO and I don't know how far I can bend them, or stretch them without it pulling off the kraken.
I am getting a vertical mount soon enough so maybe that will create enough clearance to give me an extra inch or two of tube length?
Thanks for help!
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/22 06:53:35
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Thanks heaps, yeah it looks like it's $$$ to get rid of the PSU noise.
Do you mean replace the front top fan with the radiator and its fans?
How do I make it reach the upper front section? See how the way the tubes point down and then they curve around, this is my first AIO and I don't know how far I can bend them, or stretch them without it pulling off the kraken.
I am getting a vertical mount soon enough so maybe that will create enough clearance to give me an extra inch or two of tube length?
Thanks for help!
Yeah I see what you mean with the G12 shroud's side wall in the way. You could just position it in the 2nd spot in the front. Going vertical, you might be able to go up top but that CPU cooler might get in the way. Also, I would recommend using that Noctua as your rad fan, pressuming it's a 120mm. Just realized you had one. lol
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/22 14:34:11
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Yeah I switched out fan types at least twice since the original suggestion. Do you mean the black Chromax one at the rear?
And yes it should definitely reach the middle fan spot.
I am still facepalming over the fact that I thought that insanely loud fan on the PSU was the RTX fans spinning up. That one PSU fan is louder than all the other 9 fans combined in my case.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/22 14:43:45
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I can barely hear mine and it's a Corsair AX1200i. I could manually crank up the fan but leave it alone as my PC barely hits 60% load. I think my PC pulls 500-550w on average at max load while gaming or folding. All I hear are the 9 rad fans and 3 case fans. Even my D5 pumps @ 90% are
I also just read this about the Corsair AX1200i "All of the three have smart fan controller that only fires up the fan when the system reaches certain load threshold. That means the fan won’t start spinning until it’s over 40% load for Hx/RMx series. Meanwhile, some of the new Ax models can hold up to 65% at 0 rpm fan speed." So that would mean the fan would almost never come on if you don't go over 600w draw?
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/22 14:55:48
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Glad to see you got results you're happy with, I second Jack's advice on tweaks. Along with moving the rad up, you could try the top-front fan again and/or add a pull fan to your cpu cooler and/or remove the top-rear fan.
Heh 31c in Uniengine Valley at 1440p/75fps, max settings
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/23 04:20:57
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I also just read this about the Corsair AX1200i "All of the three have smart fan controller that only fires up the fan when the system reaches certain load threshold. That means the fan won’t start spinning until it’s over 40% load for Hx/RMx series. Meanwhile, some of the new Ax models can hold up to 65% at 0 rpm fan speed."
So that would mean the fan would almost never come on if you don't go over 600w draw?
Pretty much.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/23 11:34:42
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Haha I ordered the AX 1600i. Ah dear what overkill to keep a fan silent. Now to explain to the missus...
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/23 11:41:11
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Haha I ordered the AX 1600i. Ah dear what overkill to keep a fan silent. Now to explain to the missus...
Ridiculously overkill but grats!
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/23 12:21:09
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I cushioned it with "Hey hun you know how I'm building you a new home work PC? I got you an almost new Power supply..."
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/24 07:42:12
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I cushioned it with "Hey hun you know how I'm building you a new home work PC? I got you an almost new Power supply..."
If she only knew....  "Um, we could power the microwave and a gaming PC at once. Who's with me?"
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/24 12:19:06
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I cushioned it with "Hey hun you know how I'm building you a new home work PC? I got you an almost new Power supply..."
If she only knew....
"Um, we could power the microwave and a gaming PC at once. Who's with me?"
Haha. 😆. “You spent HOW much on a power supply just do you couldn’t hear it’s fan?” When the gig is up I can at least explain its 94% power efficiency will add less to the power bill now... I think that will save me...
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/26 15:43:18
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Ridiculously overkill but grats!
Hey Jack I was wondering if you can help me out with something. Th 1600i has zero instructions on the cables so I am curious why one end of the cables is always marked “Type”. And the other end “PCI-E”. Or “CPU”. Which end goes into the PSU? The “Type” end? Also It has a 24 pin motherboard cable but the other end is a strange 18 + 10 connection. Do I need all 28 plugged into the psu or just the 18 piece? Thanks
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/26 16:06:33
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Also the PCI-E cables have two different numbers on the type end. One says “34-0 00508”. And the other type says “34-0 00477”
Is there a specific type I need to use on my RTX?
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/26 19:02:53
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Ridiculously overkill but grats!
Hey Jack I was wondering if you can help me out with something. Th 1600i has zero instructions on the cables so I am curious why one end of the cables is always marked “Type”. And the other end “PCI-E”. Or “CPU”. Which end goes into the PSU? The “Type” end?
Also It has a 24 pin motherboard cable but the other end is a strange 18 + 10 connection. Do I need all 28 plugged into the psu or just the 18 piece?
Thanks
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Also the PCI-E cables have two different numbers on the type end. One says “34-0 00508”. And the other type says “34-0 00477”
Is there a specific type I need to use on my RTX?
 Ok so the 8-pin connectors from 1-10 are all for the CPU power cable and PCIe (GPU) power cable. The CPU cable is for your CPU power header ONLY on your MB and PCIe cable is what powers your GPU(s). Use two individual cables to power the GPU. Peripheral and SATA are for your SATA and Molex power connects for HDs, CD/DVD Drives, etc. The 24 PIN ATX is for your MB. The cable should 'click' in place once they're installed properly. Btw, don't worry about plugging them in wrong because they shouldn't. Each pin has a certain housing shape to it that only aligns and plugs in the correct way so in essence it's noob proof. If you want some extra eyes involved, snap a few shots from end to end and post them on here before powering it on and we'll give you the green light once it all looks proper. Use hosting site imgur to host your images.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/26 19:33:44
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Ridiculously overkill but grats!
Hey Jack I was wondering if you can help me out with something. Th 1600i has zero instructions on the cables so I am curious why one end of the cables is always marked “Type”. And the other end “PCI-E”. Or “CPU”. Which end goes into the PSU? The “Type” end?
Also It has a 24 pin motherboard cable but the other end is a strange 18 + 10 connection. Do I need all 28 plugged into the psu or just the 18 piece?
Thanks
yaggaz
Also the PCI-E cables have two different numbers on the type end. One says “34-0 00508”. And the other type says “34-0 00477”
Is there a specific type I need to use on my RTX?
Ok so the 8-pin connectors from 1-10 are all for the CPU power cable and PCIe (GPU) power cable. The CPU cable is for your CPU power header ONLY on your MB and PCIe cable is what powers your GPU(s). Use two individual cables to power the GPU.
Peripheral and SATA are for your SATA and Molex power connects for HDs, CD/DVD Drives, etc.
The 24 PIN ATX is for your MB.
The cable should 'click' in place once they're installed properly. Btw, don't worry about plugging them in wrong because they shouldn't. Each pin has a certain housing shape to it that only aligns and plugs in the correct way so in essence it's noob proof.
If you want some extra eyes involved, snap a few shots from end to end and post them on here before powering it on and we'll give you the green light once it all looks proper. Use hosting site imgur to host your images.
Okay thanks but where it says “24 pin Atx” on the back of the PSU, do I plug in ONLY the 18 part or both the 18 pin part + the 10 pin part?
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/27 19:31:46
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Okay thanks but where it says “24 pin Atx” on the back of the PSU, do I plug in ONLY the 18 part or both the 18 pin part + the 10 pin part?
Both.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/28 13:22:52
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Thanks. That’s the part that threw me off. 24 pins to 28 pins seems odd. Got to love never hearing the fan on the PSU.
I have what I finally want. 2k gaming at 75fps average with both CPU, GPU temps in their late 40s to early 50s under load and a whisper quiet system. I’ve received a massive education in PC cooling since I got the 2080 lol
I want to thank everyone that offered advice, way back from day one when I posted the picture of my old case lol. Special thanks to both you Jack and Kevin for all the time and patience you showed helping me get here.
Now all I need is a 1440p monitor and then I can experience TRUE native 1440 instead of the scaled I’ve been testing at. I’ve never actually seen with my own eyes what 1440 native looks like on a PC monitor. I can’t wait.
Then I can finally present my wife the answer to her repeated question “Are you finally done upgrading yet???” 😎
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/28 20:46:14
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Thanks. That’s the part that threw me off. 24 pins to 28 pins seems odd. Got to love never hearing the fan on the PSU.
I have what I finally want. 2k gaming at 75fps average with both CPU, GPU temps in their late 40s to early 50s under load and a whisper quiet system. I’ve received a massive education in PC cooling since I got the 2080 lol
I want to thank everyone that offered advice, way back from day one when I posted the picture of my old case lol. Special thanks to both you Jack and Kevin for all the time and patience you showed helping me get here.
Now all I need is a 1440p monitor and then I can experience TRUE native 1440 instead of the scaled I’ve been testing at. I’ve never actually seen with my own eyes what 1440 native looks like on a PC monitor. I can’t wait.
Then I can finally present my wife the answer to her repeated question “Are you finally done upgrading yet???” 😎
You're welcome!  We're all here to help each other and try our best. I agree that you've learned a lot and this is just the beginning as it's a fun hobby. As for 1440p, I'd would go no less than 1440p 144hz but the biggest jump, presuming you're coming from 1080p 60hz, 4K 120hz would show the biggest different gaming graphic wise but that is up to you, your budget and your wife  but with your current 2080, 1440p 120/144hz is your best bet. As for the best screen's out there, one of, if not the best 1440p gaming screen is the Asus 27" ROG with all the bells and whistles. For a more affordable option, have a look at this screen. It should work with your RTX 2080 but I would check the compatibility listing on that first.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/28 21:01:56
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Wowser the price on that monitor haha. I think I need to play it low for now after all this. Plus I am paranoid that 27 inches at 1440 would look like 1080p at 21.5 inches. So I figure "Then I'd be back at step 1 for visual quality wouldn't I?" Those darn jaggies...
I have always built my own PCs since 1995 but always completely neglected cooling and learning about it. The 2080 sure opened my eyes to its importance.
I have played at 60hz since, hrm, the first time I switched from CRT to LCD. I've forgotten how long ago that was, maybe 12 years? I remember holding out for years because of seeing them and going "Eh, I don't like that blurry shimmering when you look around with the mouse."
Also I just can't maintain 60fps/4k on this setup, non overclocked, so I decided to settle for 1440. I probably could unleash the beast (Hits Unlimited frames and hides) to see what it can max out now that I have the AIO. Borderlands 3 seems to eat 2080/i7700k non overclocked rigs for breakfast so I always use that game as a baseline. Where I am getting 90 frames a second in 4k on that free CoD game that came with the 2080, on BL3 it's like 45fps.
So I figure if BL3 represents future AAA titles (in terms of load/performance) I might really be shooting myself in the foot going 4k at the moment.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/02/29 23:56:06
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This is one of the two monitors I'm looking at. It's still a size upgrade, going from my current 21.5 to 23.8 is still 2.3 inches bigger. https://www.amazon.com/Ac...D=JG3XV4QTTBS168M5YKW0 I read that Nvidia now supports FreeSync so I can't see any issues. Something that is IPS -and- 1ms seems too good to be true don't ya think? I keep thinking "What's the catch?"
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/03/01 00:44:14
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It's time to move to 27". It will give you so much more in desktop space, browing, etc.
1ms is more for FPS games but if you're not into that, IPS is great since the colors pop more.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/03/01 14:37:46
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It's time to move to 27". It will give you so much more in desktop space, browing, etc.
1ms is more for FPS games but if you're not into that, IPS is great since the colors pop more.
I dunno I'm just worried that 1440p at 27 will look exactly the same as 1080p at 21.5. Because going from 21.5 to 27 wouldn't it just be zooming in on the jaggies?
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/03/01 21:27:50
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Ugh I can't make a decision lol. Is there a more budget version of that without the bells and whistles?
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/03/01 22:10:08
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Heh now I'm ripping my hair out all night researching this not knowing what to do. According to the DPI calculator my current monitor is 102 dpi whereas the ROG you linked in 109 dpi. Does that mean that at the same distance it has better clarity because of more DPI? Edit: Oh good my local Best Buy has them in store. I might drop in during my lunch break and see if I can get a look at some gameplay on it.
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/03/02 21:36:49
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Heh now I'm ripping my hair out all night researching this not knowing what to do. According to the DPI calculator my current monitor is 102 dpi whereas the ROG you linked in 109 dpi. Does that mean that at the same distance it has better clarity because of more DPI?
Edit: Oh good my local Best Buy has them in store. I might drop in during my lunch break and see if I can get a look at some gameplay on it.
Sounds like a plan. Yes, the more DPI, the better the detail. I'm sure the 24inch 1440p will have higher DPI but the screen's are just too small and once you go 27" which I feel is the sweet spot, you won't want to go back to 24". lol
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Re: Now my 2080 fans are going nuts
2020/03/03 05:55:28
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Sitting 2.5ft from a 27" is the same as sitting 2ft from a 22".
32" 16x9 is a good size for a 2560x1440 screen, I'm using one right now.
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