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2020/02/03 09:21:34 (permalink)
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/new_amd_certification_hints_at_soon-to-be-released_radeon_big_navi_graphics_card/1
 
We know that AMD plans to release new RDNA2 graphics cards in 2020, and it seems like the release of these GPUs may arrive sooner than expected, at least according to a new Korean RAA product certification. South Korea's Radio Research Agency database contains references to many Radeon product. However, the site does list these under the "ATI Technologies ULC" banner, a holdout from the pre-AMD ATI days. 

A recent tweet from @raa_bot on Twitter, as retweeted by @Komachi and later reported on by PCGamesN, has revealed a new ATI product listing that's dated today, suggesting that a new AMD Radeon product will be released within the next few weeks/months. AMD has already confirmed that it will reveal more about its product roadmap at its 2020 Financial Analyst Day on March 5th. When combined with this Radeon listing, it also suggests that AMD's Financial Analyst Day will see AMD reveal new Radeon products. 
 
This sounds very interesting. I'm curious to see if new Radeon products are indeed revealed next month. 

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/03 09:41:14 (permalink)
    bring on the news & GPUs

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/03 19:40:24 (permalink)
    Intel Xe DG1 GPU Graphics Performance Leaks Out – Up To 40% Faster Than AMD 7nm Vega
     

     
    Now the more interesting part is in three of the four graphics tests, the DG1 discrete GPU manages up to 40% better performance than the Ryzen 7 4800U. The Ryzen 7 4800U features the enhanced 7nm Vega GPU with 512 stream processors packed in 8 compute units and each CU being up to 59 percent faster than the 14nm Vega architecture.
     
    There's also another benchmark in 3DMark TimeSpy where the discrete Xe DG1 graphics card is compared to the integrated GPU on a Tiger Lake-U processor. The specific clock speeds are not mentioned but the discrete graphics card is up to 9% faster than the same 96 EU GPU but on an integrated design. Another thing to consider here is that the current clock speeds are not finalized and we can see even higher clock speeds in the final variants as development boards are set to much lower clock speeds around 1.00 GHz, as we are seeing in these tests.
     
    https://wccftech.com/intel-xe-dg1-gpu-benchmarks-leak-40-percent-faster-than-amd-7nm-vega/
     
     
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/03 19:57:36 (permalink)
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    Intel Xe DG1 GPU Graphics Performance Leaks Out – Up To 40% Faster Than AMD 7nm Vega

    Posts Intel Xe DG1 information comparing it against Vega in a Navi thread.  

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/03 20:02:13 (permalink)
    reason being.... that intel's offering may beat Vega and may meet navi head on 
     
    this is an engineering sample and mobile processor - core clocks on intels GPU may yet be raise significantly seeing they are 1ghz and 1.5
    this would put in the ballpark of NAVI with Ray trace support
     
    another thing to note that on mobile is that AMD Might have a price performance lead on CPU
    but if intel can put a better gpu than AMD on a mobile CPU then - intel can claim better performance crown over AMD
     
     
    Im not picking winners and losers here - im just saying AMD has competition now - on mobile and possibly console
     
     
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/04 10:55:17 (permalink)
    Someone please put something out already , so we can stop speculating... 

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/04 12:27:40 (permalink)
    If AMD manages to beat nVidia's repeated preemptive strikes by bringing their better product before AMD, that would be a miracle.

    Because it's happened every year since 2013. The irony is nVidia taking advantage of AMD's delays, repeatedly.

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/05 06:02:41 (permalink)
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    Someone please put something out already , so we can stop speculating... 


    But if they do that then per normal we all get let down by a typical sub par AMD gpu launch. This way we can keep dreaming of that killer GPU that probably is just vaporware or performs about 1/2-3/4 as well as AMD lead us to believe.

    Sorry. Bit jaded by amds fervor from their last several "big" GPU launches. I really do hope they drop a monster.

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/05 10:33:46 (permalink)
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    If AMD manages to beat nVidia's repeated preemptive strikes by bringing their better product before AMD, that would be a miracle.

    Because it's happened every year since 2013. The irony is nVidia taking advantage of AMD's delays, repeatedly.



    AMD is going to release something with the equivalent performance of 2080 Ti SLI, for $599.  Nvidia is done and will never recover.
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/05 11:11:20 (permalink)
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    If AMD manages to beat nVidia's repeated preemptive strikes by bringing their better product before AMD, that would be a miracle.

    Because it's happened every year since 2013. The irony is nVidia taking advantage of AMD's delays, repeatedly.



    AMD is going to release something with the equivalent performance of 2080 Ti SLI, for $599.  Nvidia is done and will never recover.




    Not a good way to capitalize on their hardware, cutting profit to the bone, if they can achieve that kind of performance

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/05 13:06:48 (permalink)
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    If AMD manages to beat nVidia's repeated preemptive strikes by bringing their better product before AMD, that would be a miracle.

    Because it's happened every year since 2013. The irony is nVidia taking advantage of AMD's delays, repeatedly.



    AMD is going to release something with the equivalent performance of 2080 Ti SLI, for $599.  Nvidia is done and will never recover.




    Not a good way to capitalize on their hardware, cutting profit to the bone, if they can achieve that kind of performance




    Just making rumors.
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/05 15:10:31 (permalink)
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    If AMD manages to beat nVidia's repeated preemptive strikes by bringing their better product before AMD, that would be a miracle.

    Because it's happened every year since 2013. The irony is nVidia taking advantage of AMD's delays, repeatedly.



    AMD is going to release something with the equivalent performance of 2080 Ti SLI, for $599.  Nvidia is done and will never recover.




    Not a good way to capitalize on their hardware, cutting profit to the bone, if they can achieve that kind of performance




    Just making rumors.






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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/07 06:39:35 (permalink)
    Good feedback in this thread:
     
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/ezz11g/you_get_what_you_pay_for_justifiable_for_nvidia/
     
    Aside from the pent up fanboy market, it's going to be a tough sell for these new GPU at around $1000 if they just don't work right.
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/07 07:12:44 (permalink)
    I am sure that there is an r/amd thread which says the exact opposite. It's just the internet. Everyone has an opinion.

    I made it through the first sentence and then closed it. No use wasting my time reading the opinion of a clueless user. The user doesn't even know which video card they bought, lol.
    I've been using nvidia cards for years, but recently i decided to get AMD big new card based on whatever technology they are using, and im regretting my decision every single day.

    Ugh. Closed.


    Rather than speculate, why not wait to find out? Specifications, prices, performance levels, and release dates are not known for either AMD's nor NVIDIA's next line of consumer cards.
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/07 17:20:10 (permalink)
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/07 21:05:40 (permalink)
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/08 00:46:01 (permalink)
    i am just curious to see whats coming out... AMD is stepping up!  lets see... lets see...
    March or April should be interesting...
     
    just Hope AMD invests in better drivers this time...

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/08 02:34:39 (permalink)
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    i am just curious to see whats coming out... AMD is stepping up!  lets see... lets see...
    March or April should be interesting...
     
    just Hope AMD invests in better drivers this time...




    Wishing AMD had better drivers has been what people have said since they bought ATI. It's always been a weakness for AMD and they don't seem to be fixing it which is sad since it wouldn't cost much to improve it a lot.

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/08 12:06:44 (permalink)
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    i am just curious to see whats coming out... AMD is stepping up!  lets see... lets see...
    March or April should be interesting...
     
    just Hope AMD invests in better drivers this time...




    Wishing AMD had better drivers has been what people have said since they bought ATI. It's always been a weakness for AMD and they don't seem to be fixing it which is sad since it wouldn't cost much to improve it a lot.




    AMD drivers have been spot on from 2013 to now.
    At this point its like folk lore from the old country.


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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/08 12:24:10 (permalink)
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    AMD drivers have been spot on from 2013 to now.
    At this point its like folk lore from the old country.

    Well, I am not so sure.  Gamers Nexus has repeatedly ripped on them quite a bit about the drivers for the Navi line.  To be fair though, some of the supposed driver issues were related to tweaks which aren't officially supported in the first place.  But the screens turning funny colors and fan control issues have been documented, although somewhat benign in the grand scheme of things.

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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/09 02:11:20 (permalink)
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    Intel Xe DG1 GPU Graphics Performance Leaks Out – Up To 40% Faster Than AMD 7nm Vega
     

     
    Now the more interesting part is in three of the four graphics tests, the DG1 discrete GPU manages up to 40% better performance than the Ryzen 7 4800U. The Ryzen 7 4800U features the enhanced 7nm Vega GPU with 512 stream processors packed in 8 compute units and each CU being up to 59 percent faster than the 14nm Vega architecture.
     
    There's also another benchmark in 3DMark TimeSpy where the discrete Xe DG1 graphics card is compared to the integrated GPU on a Tiger Lake-U processor. The specific clock speeds are not mentioned but the discrete graphics card is up to 9% faster than the same 96 EU GPU but on an integrated design. Another thing to consider here is that the current clock speeds are not finalized and we can see even higher clock speeds in the final variants as development boards are set to much lower clock speeds around 1.00 GHz, as we are seeing in these tests.
     
    https://wccftech.com/intel-xe-dg1-gpu-benchmarks-leak-40-percent-faster-than-amd-7nm-vega/
     
     
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    Intel's graphics are not going to be worth even talking about for a while unfortunately. They will be competitive in integrated graphics, but just competitive. AMD's RDNA 2 architecture from what I am hearing is going to be better than people realize. I am already cringing on how happy some the AMD fanboy's are going to be.... :-o
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    Re: New AMD certification hints at soon-to-be-released Radeon "big Navi" graphics card 2020/02/09 12:36:22 (permalink)
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    If AMD manages to beat nVidia's repeated preemptive strikes by bringing their better product before AMD, that would be a miracle.

    Because it's happened every year since 2013. The irony is nVidia taking advantage of AMD's delays, repeatedly.



    Hmm March 5 for AMD's Financial Analyst day, and March 22 for Nvidia's GTC are things to watch, to see if Nvidia uses what happens with AMD's to decide what to do at their GTC. Think they'll move things up if AMD implies an earlier release date than expected?
     
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