yaggaz
 
Is this right?

yaggaz
 
Very strange.  So I followed the instructions step by step on the evga site to make that fan curve.  There is no fan speedup until 63c, and its gradual as the temps kick up, and the fans max out at 70c.   Temp reports are up to 74c, ouch, something here got worse and it's ignoring the fan curve I set.
 
 
I will flip the top fans tonight and see if increasing intake helps.
 

kevinc313
For a quick test try the splash screen on this website, it kicks my gpu up to about 70-100w and high power state in 1080p, but doesn't really load it like a normal game.
 
https://www.ontvtonight.com/

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kevinc313
For a quick test try the splash screen on this website, it kicks my gpu up to about 70-100w and high power state in 1080p, but doesn't really load it like a normal game.
 
https://www.ontvtonight.com/

A test of what? What am I looking for? To see if it pushes my GPU above 40c?

kevinc313

yaggaz
70c even with the fans blasting at 90%
 
I also spent the last hour configuring my fans in bios to PWM.  It does NOT work.  I don't know if something is toast on my motherboard but using that HW64 program they never change. 
 
Any speedups I was hearing all this time was the GPU fans.
 
The only thing that is works from the BIO is Silent/Normal/Full Speed settings.     When I change the fans to Manual and Select PWM (or Voltage/Auto, tried all combos) that's the only time I can drag the curve points around.   But in gaming it just doesn't do it for a reason.  :(
 
The best results I've gotten so far are CPU fan full speed, back and top fans to Silent (Minimum) and front fans to Full speed with the controller.   Somehow this keeps both the CPU and GPU around the 65 to 69c mark.
 
I can live with 65 to 69 but the GPU fan noise is horrid.   What about a be quiet AIO cooler? Even if I hit the same temps but have it quiet I'd be ready to settle.  
 

Interesting, sounds about right.  Try the case fans with the full speed/silent combo, run Unigine Heaven for a few minutes then adjust the GPU fan down from 90% to what you consider tolerable.  That's pretty much the sweet spot you're going to get.  Next step is to pull the cooler and re-paste, you may have bad TIM.
 
Too bad about the fans. 
 
- Remember the stock case fans are voltage controlled, they will not respond to PWM control.
 
- CPU temp control of the case fans means that if the CPU temp drops down quick the case fans will drop off too.  System temp is more stable but harder to tune in to the right temp.  Make sure you know what sensor it is reading, watch those temps in HWiNFO64.  For example, my system temp only gets up to about 40C max, I have the kick up step at 35C and it takes a couple minutes in game to reach.  At idle it's about 30C-ish.
 
- There are MANY varieties of A12 fans.  Are you totally sure you bought the NF-A12x25 12V, 4-Pin PWM version?  Because if you have the 3-pin version it's voltage control.
 
https://www.amazon.com/s?...s&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

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kevinc313

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kevinc313
For a quick test try the splash screen on this website, it kicks my gpu up to about 70-100w and high power state in 1080p, but doesn't really load it like a normal game.
 
https://www.ontvtonight.com/

A test of what? What am I looking for? To see if it pushes my GPU above 40c?

Just another test load, a light load.  It may or may not kick it above 40C, but it's sort of a worst case browser load.

No surprisingly enough I still hover around 38c

yaggaz
 
What about the Kraken G12? It looks dirty easy to install but I don't know how loud their AIOs are
https://www.amazon.com/NZ...electronics&sr=1-1
 

yaggaz
 
29c / 30c  on the GPU at idle/at that page.  Not sure how to read Wattage?
 

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kevinc313

yaggaz
 
29c / 30c  on the GPU at idle/at that page.  Not sure how to read Wattage?
 

Wattage (power consumption, watts) can be found in the gpu section of hw64info or gpu-z.

Okay average 1.7idle. Opening Edge and going to that URL jumps to Average of 5.3w

GTXJackBauer

yaggaz
 
What about the Kraken G12? It looks dirty easy to install but I don't know how loud their AIOs are
https://www.amazon.com/NZ...electronics&sr=1-1
 

Very easy.  You'd purchase any 3rd party AIO that is included in their compatibility listing and slap it on.  Preferably a 240mm AIO should allow better temps and quieter fans.  If you go all out, slap some Noctua A12s on that bad boy and call it a day. 


Don't forget, you can choose either Black or White on that G12 GPU bracket.
 

 

kevinc313

yaggaz And by good enough, goaling to never hit 70c max and much quieter than stock fans maxing out.

I'm just questioning why you're so concerned about going above 70C?  The cards are good to about 80C, Boost 4.0 will cut clock by 15mhz for every 8-10C, but you can still overclock and increase power to compensate.  Yeah it's nice to have cooler temps and you might get a few percent better performance, but it's not night and day. 
 
There's a significant chance you don't have full paste coverage on your GPU's chip, I'd pull it to check and re-paste with MX-4 or any other decent paste.  Heck, you can just pull the cooler and spread the existing paste flat with a straight plastic edge.  That's the next step.
 
I still recommend you set the case fans to 1800/500/700 and the GPU to whatever noise level is acceptable, then use VSYNC and ultra low latency mode, see what temps and performance you get.  Then work on overclocking and increasing the power limit.  If the card won't overclock well with stock cooler, you might get it better results with a AIO, but it also might be worth moving to a better card.

set the case fans to 1800/500/700

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kevinc313

yaggaz And by good enough, goaling to never hit 70c max and much quieter than stock fans maxing out.

I'm just questioning why you're so concerned about going above 70C?  The cards are good to about 80C, Boost 4.0 will cut clock by 15mhz for every 8-10C, but you can still overclock and increase power to compensate.  Yeah it's nice to have cooler temps and you might get a few percent better performance, but it's not night and day. 
 
There's a significant chance you don't have full paste coverage on your GPU's chip, I'd pull it to check and re-paste with MX-4 or any other decent paste.  Heck, you can just pull the cooler and spread the existing paste flat with a straight plastic edge.  That's the next step.
 
I still recommend you set the case fans to 1800/500/700 and the GPU to whatever noise level is acceptable, then use VSYNC and ultra low latency mode, see what temps and performance you get.  Then work on overclocking and increasing the power limit.  If the card won't overclock well with stock cooler, you might get it better results with a AIO, but it also might be worth moving to a better card.

To be clear, it's about a quiet build that is also good enough to stop any throttling from happening.     Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 2k but limited to 75fps (enough for me, I'm not a competitive gamer), max settings, with both GPU and CPU temps flicking around 67c to 72c.     But both the CPU and GPU are loud, so at this point it's about getting it much quieter.
 
The only thing I have OCd is when I upped my ram from 2133 to 240
 

set the case fans to 1800/500/700

 
 
It's currently (%100 rpm whatever the front three fans on the controller do when gaming)/433/503
 
Large intake, low exhaust.   There's also the curiosity and accomplishment factor of installing my very first AIO and that also takes care of repasting the GPU cooler issue at the same time.

yaggazTo be clear, it's about a quiet build that is also good enough to stop any throttling from happening.     Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey at 2k but limited to 75fps (enough for me, I'm not a competitive gamer), max settings, with both GPU and CPU temps flicking around 67c to 72c.     But both the CPU and GPU are loud, so at this point it's about getting it much quieter.