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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/09 07:27:23
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/10 20:45:26
Room Temp is Relative to reported hardware Temps ...... hardware's temp Rise over the ambient temp Time to save up for a SSD as your BOOT drive .... system will feel much faster than with the barracuda 7200 rpm mechanical drive .. you will see the difference On a Tight budget - 512 GB is a nice sized boot drive - then use your mechanical drive for Library files: Movies, documents, downloads ..... Enjoy your 2080 Super 
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/09 11:17:24
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I haven't LOL in a very long time when it comes to tech / online forums, this one almost brought me to tears for about 30 seconds. The pic of that case, good lord! I echo what everyone else has been telling you, your new case and some good airflow will solve all of your problems. Please post your results once you receive the case!
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/09 13:04:27
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I haven't LOL in a very long time when it comes to tech / online forums, this one almost brought me to tears for about 30 seconds. The pic of that case, good lord! I echo what everyone else has been telling you, your new case and some good airflow will solve all of your problems. Please post your results once you receive the case!
Whenever people complain about cooling I ask them to post a picture of their case - usually they post a pic of the side with the cover off so you can get an idea of the layout.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 12:15:28
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/10 20:48:13
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I saw that picture and thought that you were messing around... You were really serious! HAHA. How could you know enough to buy a 2080, but not to buy a new case with better airflow?
Never had a heat problem with the last 5 video cards over the 12 years or so. For my part, Just lack of research on the 2800 I guess? No biggie, it'll all be good (I hope) when my new case gets here.
On another random thought, somebody had mentioned the room temperature needing to be cool too? I think if the day comes that we also need our house air conditioned to stop video cards from burning out we'll have reached a high level of insanity 
Room temperature will increase the temperature of the card by 1 degree for every 1 degree of ambient temperature. You simply can't cool a card on air lower than the room temperature. In most cases, this means a slight increase with an increase in room temps. If you are comfortable in your home, your card is probably fine with adequate case cooling. The bigger issue here, is that you have a card that is producing a lot of heat and dumping it into the case and that heat cannot escape. The heat builds up in the case and so does the temperature of your card. What kind of cooling do you have on your CPU? I noticed, in your previous post, that your CPU temps are not moving much with the side off. EDIT: I just noticed this in your previous post: "Temp in my room is about 60 degrees f, (It's winter here in the mountains)"... That is one cold room, your room temp is NOT the issue here.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 13:56:33
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/11 15:05:45
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Room temperature will increase the temperature of the card by 1 degree for every 1 degree of ambient temperature. You simply can't cool a card on air lower than the room temperature. In most cases, this means a slight increase with an increase in room temps. If you are comfortable in your home, your card is probably fine with adequate case cooling. The bigger issue here, is that you have a card that is producing a lot of heat and dumping it into the case and that heat cannot escape. The heat builds up in the case and so does the temperature of your card.
What kind of cooling do you have on your CPU? I noticed, in your previous post, that your CPU temps are not moving much with the side off.
EDIT: I just noticed this in your previous post: "Temp in my room is about 60 degrees f, (It's winter here in the mountains)"... That is one cold room, your room temp is NOT the issue here.
We found the culprit on page one. It's his case.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 16:58:51
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I saw that picture and thought that you were messing around... You were really serious! HAHA. How could you know enough to buy a 2080, but not to buy a new case with better airflow?
Never had a heat problem with the last 5 video cards over the 12 years or so. For my part, Just lack of research on the 2800 I guess? No biggie, it'll all be good (I hope) when my new case gets here.
On another random thought, somebody had mentioned the room temperature needing to be cool too? I think if the day comes that we also need our house air conditioned to stop video cards from burning out we'll have reached a high level of insanity
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Room temperature will increase the temperature of the card by 1 degree for every 1 degree of ambient temperature. You simply can't cool a card on air lower than the room temperature. In most cases, this means a slight increase with an increase in room temps. If you are comfortable in your home, your card is probably fine with adequate case cooling. The bigger issue here, is that you have a card that is producing a lot of heat and dumping it into the case and that heat cannot escape. The heat builds up in the case and so does the temperature of your card.
What kind of cooling do you have on your CPU? I noticed, in your previous post, that your CPU temps are not moving much with the side off.
EDIT: I just noticed this in your previous post: "Temp in my room is about 60 degrees f, (It's winter here in the mountains)"... That is one cold room, your room temp is NOT the issue here.
We found the culprit on page one. It's his case.
No one ever properly addressed the issue that he was asking about, room temps. For the sake of anyone that comes along later and sees this, I addressed it clearly.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 20:33:09
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No one ever properly addressed the issue that he was asking about, room temps. For the sake of anyone that comes along later and sees this, I addressed it clearly.
I'm sorry but I'm not understanding if you can break it down for me.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 20:43:32
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No one ever properly addressed the issue that he was asking about, room temps. For the sake of anyone that comes along later and sees this, I addressed it clearly.
I'm sorry but I'm not understanding if you can break it down for me.
Feel free to go back and re-read it, if you don't understand. Not sure why you are acting like this...
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 20:50:05
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I haven't LOL in a very long time when it comes to tech / online forums, this one almost brought me to tears for about 30 seconds. The pic of that case, good lord! I echo what everyone else has been telling you, your new case and some good airflow will solve all of your problems. Please post your results once you receive the case!
~Pats his case!~ There, there, he didn't mean it lil buddy, he didn't live through the great CRPG depression of 97' ;)
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/10 20:58:22
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Time to save up for a SSD as your BOOT drive .... system will feel much faster than with the barracuda 7200 rpm mechanical drive .. you will see the difference
On a Tight budget - 512 GB is a nice sized boot drive - then use your mechanical drive for Library files: Movies, documents, downloads .....
Enjoy your 2080 Super
Hey thanks for the advice, I have been thinking about it for some time now. I assume you keep your games installed on the SSD too? So many modern delicacies of the modern PC gaming world I've yet to experience; 4k gaming, SSD... um a temperature that I cant cook eggs on.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/11 02:57:26
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Feel free to go back and re-read it, if you don't understand. Not sure why you are acting like this...
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm seriously confused. Nvm....I'll just pass on what I was asking than.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/13 20:08:11
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PS: If you want an idea of what it looks like with a system in it, It's the very case I'm currently using you can see pics of the inside arrangement I have on my "Mods Rigs" link in my profile.
Edit/Updated: Nevermind lol. If I took the thing apart before asking questions I'd have my answers. So my case arrived and am I right in assuming that it does NOT come with a HDD mounting bracket? Also I looked at your Mod Rig pics again... where the heck is your EVO drive???
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/13 20:30:00
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/16 18:28:46
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PS: If you want an idea of what it looks like with a system in it, It's the very case I'm currently using you can see pics of the inside arrangement I have on my "Mods Rigs" link in my profile.
Edit/Updated: Nevermind lol. If I took the thing apart before asking questions I'd have my answers.
So my case arrived and am I right in assuming that it does NOT come with a HDD mounting bracket? Also I looked at your Mod Rig pics again... where the heck is your EVO drive???
I'm assuming you found the HDD mounting trays that are located under the PSU shroud that you access by removing the back panel? My board has 2 M.2 slots, one near the memory on the upper right just under where my 24pin ATX cables is and is what's known as a vertical M.2 slot and the other is located under the heatsink where the "ASUS" logo is in the lower right. If you look at the brighter picture in my profile you can actually see a little of green PCB of the drive poking out from behind the silver heatsink. I have since upgraded from the Samsung EVO 250GB to a Intel 660p 1TB drive.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/14 14:17:26
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PS: If you want an idea of what it looks like with a system in it, It's the very case I'm currently using you can see pics of the inside arrangement I have on my "Mods Rigs" link in my profile.
Edit/Updated: Nevermind lol. If I took the thing apart before asking questions I'd have my answers.
So my case arrived and am I right in assuming that it does NOT come with a HDD mounting bracket? Also I looked at your Mod Rig pics again... where the heck is your EVO drive???
I'm assuming you found the HDD mounting trays that are located under the PSU shroud that you access by removing the back panel?
My board has 2 M.2 slots, one near the memory on the upper right just under where my 24pin ATX cables is and is what's known as a vertical M.2 slot and the other is located under the heatsink where the "ASUS" logo is in the lower right. If you look at the brighter picture in my profile you can actually see a little of green PCB of the drive poking out from behind the silver heatsink. I have since upgraded from the Samsung EVO 250GB to a Intel 660p 1TB drive.
Edit: So the four holes only line up if I want the PSU to pull air out of the case. Or I can pull air from below and outside the case and only have two screws line up. Any disadvantages for either? Ah yes now I see it. :) So I notice you have an evga power supply gold version. Mine is the Bronze 750w and for the life of me I just cannot get the four screw holes on the power supply to line up with four holes on the P400a. I can only get two to line up. Is there any issue that could come from just having it held by two screws? Thanks
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/14 14:47:26
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/14 16:03:05
All 4 of the PSU screws fit fine in the back of mine. Are you using the correct holes? As for the mounting orientation you want the fan pulling in air from the bottom and exhausting it out the back. There is an easily removable dust filter on the bottom of the case under the PSU mounting so you can keep the intake clean.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/14 16:03:07
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It's fine I uh...~ahem~ made an extra two screw holes. All good now ;)
So the three fans are only powered by the two connectors? Daisy chained?
I know this thread feels seriously derailed but it's all coming back to getting the RTX 2080 cooled and I'd like to post the difference.
Are the fans at the front you are using the stock fans for this case? What brand are the extra fans? Thanks.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/14 18:45:31
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/14 20:34:53
Oh I actually swapped all the fans for some Thermaltake Pure Plus RGB fans so I could sync them all up. I’m water cooled also so I needed some higher static pressure fans for my radiators than what the stock fans offered.
As for the stock fans they are fine for air flow so don’t be concerned with that and yes they are all daisy chainable you will need to connect the RGB header to the board to control them however
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/14 20:34:48
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Hrm that RGB header looks like it needs to be seriously stretched to reach. Also what is the point of the male header? Is that for the extra fans?
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/14 20:37:09
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/16 18:28:37
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Hrm that RGB header looks like it needs to be seriously stretched to reach. Also what is the point of the male header? Is that for the extra fans?
Yes male connector is there if you order more of the Phanteks fans so you can connect them all on the same run.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/15 15:02:15
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Yes male connector is there if you order more of the Phanteks fans so you can connect them all on the same run.
Hrm does it seem to you that my MB does not support this feature? I can’t see a three pin connection anywhere
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/15 15:48:31
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/16 18:28:30
According to that diagram, no your board does not have a addressable RGB header. You should still be able to control the RGB using the button on the case if you've connected it all correctly. The addressable RGB header is nice because it allows you to use other software like ASUS Aurasync or MSI Mystic Light to control and sync all your RGB colors in one place.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/15 20:56:51
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According to that diagram, no your board does not have a addressable RGB header. You should still be able to control the RGB using the button on the case if you've connected it all correctly. The addressable RGB header is nice because it allows you to use other software like ASUS Aurasync or MSI Mystic Light to control and sync all your RGB colors in one place.
Okay thanks for being patient with all my questions lol. Yes all the lighting is working nicely. Have everything connected and working except one thing. The bottom fan does not spin. There are only two fan cables that go to the motherboard, so how do you get the third fan to spin (lighting on it works) if there is no third fan cable to the motherboard? I did notice a male three pin cable kind of hanging free from the RGB cabling (but unconnected) but can't see how that can help me? So close to being able to getting this going so I can do some temp tests and finally see the temp difference to my old case.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/15 22:12:47
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/16 20:48:31
All the fans should have a power connector for themselves. You can use the daisy chain connector to power it or directly plug it into the motherboard.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/16 11:42:58
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Hrm this third fan doesn’t have its own cable. I can only find two female fan cables that go to the motherboard.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/16 13:45:08
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☄ Helpfulby yaggaz 2019/12/16 20:48:28
Then you have a defective fan. Unmount it from the casing, look at all 4 sides to see if there's any cut off wiring going into the fan.
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Re: 2800 Super 84c under load / 55c idle
2019/12/16 18:29:57
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Then you have a defective fan. Unmount it from the casing, look at all 4 sides to see if there's any cut off wiring going into the fan.
Edit/Update: Nevermind. I'm an idiot, I found the third fan plug lol. Now time for temp comparison Thanks I'll check that out in a bit. But if it was chopped off or defective, wouldn't there still at least be a third female plug hanging or dangling somewhere?
post edited by yaggaz - 2019/12/16 20:48:18
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