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https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_has_revealed_77_new_chip_vulnerabilities_one_of_which_has_a_notable_performance_impact/1 This month, Intel has disclosed a whooping 77 vulnerabilities that range from processors to graphics and even ethernet controllers. 67 of these bugs have been discovered by Intel internally, while outside sources uncovered ten. Many of these vulnerabilities are minor, though some others will have a notable impact on Intel's products. More information about these vulnerabilities is available here, with the focus of this article being a specific vulnerability called "JCC Erratum". This vulnerability impact most of Intel's recently released processors, including Coffee Lake, Amber Lake, Cascade Lake, Skylake, Whiskey lake, Comet Lake and Kaby Lake. This bug relates to Intel's ICache/ Decodes Streaming buffer, though the issue can be addressed with firmware. However, Intel's mitigations document for Jump Conditional Code Erratum states that the mitigation/workaround will impact performance by 0-4% excluding outliers, which means that even higher performance downsides in specific workloads. It should be interesting to see how Intel decides to overcome these vulnerabilities.
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 03:59:39
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More fun ... glad Most of these issues Requires physical access with the system When code is injected -- like Microarchitectural Data Sampling (MDS) - CPU code works as designed. The "vulnerabilities" are in fact CPU features ... that is being compromised - by allowing access. TPM & Only Trusted Software --> & Lock down the Network / Best Practices ..... keep your Security software & Patches up to date
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 04:21:14
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As if I needed anymore reason to go with AMD for my next build. I still deal with the performance loss of Spectre/Meltdown mitigations with VMs on my Haswell systems. If nothing else, by the time Zen 3 launches the performance regressions from these patches and fixes will be in the OS and it will only help AMD's performance lead across the board. I hope someone at EVGA is taking a good hard look at adopting AMD platforms, because they may find Intel will soon be the smaller slice of the desktop market pie. Especially on the premium HEDT platforms.
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 05:16:51
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 06:49:39
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kougar As if I needed anymore reason to go with AMD for my next build. I still deal with the performance loss of Spectre/Meltdown mitigations with VMs on my Haswell systems. If nothing else, by the time Zen 3 launches the performance regressions from these patches and fixes will be in the OS and it will only help AMD's performance lead across the board. I hope someone at EVGA is taking a good hard look at adopting AMD platforms, because they may find Intel will soon be the smaller slice of the desktop market pie. Especially on the premium HEDT platforms.
Agreed. I was looking forward to Cascade Lake-X, but not so sure now. The only misgiving I have right now about jumping into Ryzen is I lose quad channel memory and step back to dual. Maybe save a bit more and see if I can get to the Threadripper platform.
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 12:29:19
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Most of this is the result of suffering decades of x86 instruction set bloat. It's not that AMD doesn't have this stuff, it's just that people aren't documenting it as publicly. x86 as a whole is jumbled mess. Unless AMD has audited it's whole instruction set, including undocumented parts, it's going to have hundreds issues too. Intel and AMD both suffer from this. I bring this video out about once every 6 months to help give context to the issue. Taking bets 99% of the people who read about tech news articles and posts here about instruction set vulnerabilities don't have the patience to watch the whole video.
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 16:09:05
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CVEs are all published publicly so if there were AMD vulnerabilities comparable you'd know about them.
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 20:22:11
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I don’t see this much publicly on Win10 always-on data whoring; updates trashing your system flac?
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/13 21:52:42
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AMD has its own share of problems The last windows updates and a BIOS update have done much to stabilize my rig at least they are fixing problems as fast as they can
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/14 10:23:43
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/14 18:41:02
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I’m guessing a lot of these were intentionally engineered into their [intel] undocumented instruction set - for the benefit of our overseers - and are only now seeing the light of day because foreign, state-supported, hackers have discovered them. Just a hunch...
post edited by MasterMiner - 2019/11/14 18:44:22
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Re: Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable performance
2019/11/14 19:08:28
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MasterMiner I’m guessing a lot of these were intentionally engineered into their [intel] undocumented instruction set - for the benefit of our overseers - and are only now seeing the light of day because foreign, state-supported, hackers have discovered them.
Just a hunch...
That crossed my mind as well. Also known as 'back door'.
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