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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 04:32:26 (permalink)
btw i cant answer pm's yet :C  but thx ! will be buying the card at my local hardware store tough. 
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 04:37:24 (permalink)
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btw i cant answer pm's yet :C  but thx ! will be buying the card at my local hardware store tough. 




Awesome, where are you located at and what is your local store?




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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 05:01:27 (permalink)
Im from Denmark and my local store is Computersalg, but im secounds from buying /ordering from em now so i dont think there would be time for dealing with all this :C but its ok :) 
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 05:02:35 (permalink)
Horatio Nullbuiltyea woke up with the "im gonna buy a kingpin" feeling.. if i do that i maby overkilling, and pay for stuff i dont really need to pay for but i will know that i have the best thing and there will be no reason to look back, not even when a 2080ti super somedays comes out to laugh at me  the monitor can wait a little.
 
My hardware guy told me that it wont fit in my nzxt h700i case with that radiator.. hmpf.. i told him some people on the internet told me it fits and he laughed :D 



Previously in the thread I literally looked up your case and posted a picture of it with two dual fan radiators mounted.  If they aren't going to fit, he needs to explain exactly why.
 
What specifically are you looking at for a monitor?  Something that's 4K 120hz?
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 05:08:28 (permalink)
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@DWEXPRESS  thank you for that ! what would you do ? Connect it in the front and make it push/pull air in ? or top ? Im aware that i should not use hot air from indide the case to push out in the gpu's radiator, as it will not work very well  but i wonder what the most optimal thing to do is, im also considering to buy a extra pair of noctura fans to help either the radiator on the gpu as a extra set so i get push and pull, or just on the case itself as a exhaust or intake - as the fans in the case is h700case seem a little weak for my  concern, well im not expert, i just feel like i could move air better, with stronger fans in there.




You want to front mount the Kingpin radiator.  That way it gets the coolest possible air.  The CPU AIO radiator can go in the top position, CPU performance is not as sensitive to temps and if you're running 4K res, your frame rates and CPU use won't get the CPU much higher than the 40's in normal use.
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 05:56:53 (permalink)
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(edit for some reasom my post get deleted sometimes when i edit em.. strange)
Thanks ! hmm... so what im gonna do now is buying some extra noctura fans just to be sure i have enough for whatever configuration im going with, and if i have a some left over when im done i sell em or try to se if they can replace some of the other fans in the case.
 
I was thinking about going with the some of the Noctura industrial - ive heard they do a great job and they are black so it would kinda fit my cases look.
I know im asking alot of new questions all of the time but if you guys can recmmend any good noctura fans out there in 120mm then i would be glad to hear you out. I dont care if they are noisy tbh, my current 980ti is always blasting on full when gaming and im used to it, so what im saying is - dont care if they are loud as long they do a great job.
 
EDIT would it be stupid to buy 3-4 of the  Noctua industrialPPC NF-F12 with the 750 - 3000 rpm and not the  450 - 2000 rpm ? would  
the 450 has 29 db in noise and the 750 has 43 ? i assume they mean when they are goin at maximum and not just running idle ? 




I use the 3000rpm fans and love them, i would rather have plenty of fan and turn it down if needed instead of have a fan that i wish would speed up and cool better. Some people don't like fan noise but when im gaming i use a high dollar headset anyway so i can't hear them, when i'm not gaming i turn them down to 50% and cant hear them anyway without a headset. As far as push/pull the air movement with the 3000rpm fans is enough that push or pull will work if needed and not push/pull combined if there is not enough room. My 7980xe is running 5.0GHz on all cores and a 360mm radiator with 3 of the noctua fans in push is all i need to keep it cooled. 




 
 
Ok.. i pretty much do the same when gaming ! so what im doing is ordering 2x noctua idustrialPPC nf12- 120mm 750-3000 rpm's and 2x Noctua NF-A14 indrustialPPC 140m, 800 - 3000 rpm...
pew.... im  done !! YES !!!! 
 
 
 




So the 140mm in push on the front case mount and then the 120mm on pull on the radiator behind that?  Not exactly sure how that works but it might.  Or the stock fans plus the 120mm Noctua on the radiator?
 
Testing shows that at 3000 RPM the industrial fans do perform better than the 2000rpm at max speed, but it's usually by about 1-2C.  Push pull with two 2000rpm fans is more effective than one 3000rpm.  Push pull with 3000rpm is about as effective as it gets.  
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 06:15:34 (permalink)
Dont want to make your head explode but your going to need some way of controlling those rad fans. Disconnecting the 2 fans that connect to the card and running them either to fan ports on the motherboard or connecting them with a molex/sata connector to fan ports or fan controller.

Personally I just connected them to the motherboard and had them run at 100% since the fans were quiet anyways.

I use Corsair SP120 HP fans for my rads. 4 in push pull.

Depending on the case one could have both rads blowing in and the other case fans blowing out. The heat will also just be forced out of all the other openings in the case. Actually the recommended way.. keeps the dust down as well.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 06:20:18 (permalink)
Also be careful to not use too long of screws when mounting the fans to the rad. You dont want to damage the rad with the screws going too deep and hitting the rad fins and possibly puncturing one of the water veins. Cant remember now if the rad had a built in stopper so that cant happen or not.

Yeah you could use the stock fans on pull and the better fans on push if needed.. but I'm sure those stock fans will be loud at full tilt. So best to go with all new.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 06:23:38 (permalink)
yea i know im prolly gonna have alot of issues thats why i bought a little of everything when it comes to the fans so im sure i have something that will work - and then slowly optimize it from there to se what works best, i can always refund the fans i dont need, resell or just use em in another build someday. I tought since there is room for 140 in the case i could always use a 140 noctua as exhaust or intake here and there instead of a 120, depending on how its all going to play out when trying to mount stuff.
 
my plan was actually just to keep the original fans on the kingpins radiator and mabye add some noctua fans to it also, dunno if i can make em run the same speed (in sync) KPN's fans, i cant wrap my head around how doing it yet lol :D but im sure i will figure it out....... :s  mabye i can set some of it up with CAM, can't remember how i got it on my pc.. think i got it with the case or something to controll all the rgb stuff :D but that software is pretty nice for controlling the case fans, very easy to use
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 06:27:58 (permalink)
Obviously the faster the fans go, the louder things will be no matter the fan.  Most like to find a happy medium and not go beyond 2,000 RPM on rad fans.  Most high performing rad fans stop around 1850 RPM.
 
Noctua came with a better fan called the A12 (PWM).  I would recommend those but the color scheme I personally dislike.  

You could also have a look at these Gentle Typhoons (PWM).
 
Those are the best rad fans on the planet imo if you want performance and low audibles.
 
P/P should do you well in front as intake.  Just make sure you're using the same fans all around when using a PWM fan hub to control them all at the same speed via MB header while it gets power from the PSU.
 
I still think you should budget for a screen into this purchase because getting a Kingpin on 1080p is unheard of.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 06:41:29 (permalink)
Pull out the credit card and grab a 27in 1440 144-165hz g-sync monitor hehe. That or an ultra wide but that will be more.

When ya get that kingpin card treat it as if it's a block of gold! Kinda is at that price!

Too bad ya dont live around here in the US. I got a few cases laying around and plenty of rans and psu's to get ya set.

Just sold a Asus Swift PG279 27" 1440 165Hz G-Sync Gaming Monitor a week ago for cheap like new that would of been perfect for it.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 06:58:21 (permalink)
I will keep that Gentle typhoons fan in mind if the noctua becomes to much for me :) aw ? not even the noctua 140 and 120 fans on the same hub ? I THINK my h700i has some sort of hub that the CAM software controlls but i cant remember really, anyways im sure i will make it work out somehow when trying to se it all up.
 
God damn it bye bye xmas ... :( Okay.. you are prolly right about that monitor.. i can spend like 5-600 usd on a monitor, i was having a look at LG-27GL850-B but its just a little bit to expensive.. cost around 700 where i live.
So here is a new question : What monitor would you guys rec me for a 5-600 usd budget ? Im only looking for buying new stuff - never used.
Here is what i think i look for.. some 4k stuff or even better (but prolly not for does money lol) Gsync, not curved, 120 hrz or above i guess..  and not curved, as i personaly dont like curved screens that much.
 
#AHowes yea that screen IS perfect for me :( but... that screen cost 830 usd here D: it will prolly end out with me buying that monitor if i know myself right but i would really rather not spend that much money
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 08:02:53 (permalink)
I like that LG screen and it's not a bad price being IPS.  4K will cost you more if you want above 60hz.  I personally feel there's no point in getting a 4K 60hz screen but that's just me.  I already got a Dell 1440p 144hz TN Panel and will wait to upgrade to 4K 144hz once the pricing comes down.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 08:15:16 (permalink)
Well there are 4k screens that also can also do 1440 @120hz like the samsung 55" and above nu8000 series tv and newer models. :) tried one for a desktop and was way too huge for me.. exchanged it for a 65" and gave it to the son for his consoles.

I hear alot of people do use them as desktop monitors.. prob more then 4-6 feet away.

Just grab anything 1440 and 144hz and up that has g-sync and low input lag.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/08 08:44:40 (permalink)
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I will keep that Gentle typhoons fan in mind if the noctua becomes to much for me :) aw ? not even the noctua 140 and 120 fans on the same hub ? I THINK my h700i has some sort of hub that the CAM software controlls but i cant remember really, anyways im sure i will make it work out somehow when trying to se it all up.
 
God damn it bye bye xmas ... :( Okay.. you are prolly right about that monitor.. i can spend like 5-600 usd on a monitor, i was having a look at LG-27GL850-B but its just a little bit to expensive.. cost around 700 where i live.
So here is a new question : What monitor would you guys rec me for a 5-600 usd budget ? Im only looking for buying new stuff - never used.
Here is what i think i look for.. some 4k stuff or even better (but prolly not for does money lol) Gsync, not curved, 120 hrz or above i guess..  and not curved, as i personaly dont like curved screens that much.
 
#AHowes yea that screen IS perfect for me :( but... that screen cost 830 usd here D: it will prolly end out with me buying that monitor if i know myself right but i would really rather not spend that much money




I've got a LG 43MU79-B about $500, it's really nice but no freesync and 60hz. 
 
High refresh rate 4K is expensive, usually like over $1000 but here's Acer for $700:
 
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwdxFT/acer-xv273k-pbmiipphzx-270-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-xv273k-pbmiipphzx
 
Here's a full list, lots of nice 1440p144 monitors around $300-$500 USD.
 
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#D=70000,240000&r=256001440,256001600,344001440,384001080,384001200,384001600,384002160,409602160,512001440,512002160,512002880,576002160&sort=-price&page=1
 
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/09 14:00:06 (permalink)
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I will keep that Gentle typhoons fan in mind if the noctua becomes to much for me :) aw ? not even the noctua 140 and 120 fans on the same hub ? I THINK my h700i has some sort of hub that the CAM software controlls but i cant remember really, anyways im sure i will make it work out somehow when trying to se it all up.
 
God damn it bye bye xmas ... :( Okay.. you are prolly right about that monitor.. i can spend like 5-600 usd on a monitor, i was having a look at LG-27GL850-B but its just a little bit to expensive.. cost around 700 where i live.
So here is a new question : What monitor would you guys rec me for a 5-600 usd budget ? Im only looking for buying new stuff - never used.
Here is what i think i look for.. some 4k stuff or even better (but prolly not for does money lol) Gsync, not curved, 120 hrz or above i guess..  and not curved, as i personaly dont like curved screens that much.
 
#AHowes yea that screen IS perfect for me :( but... that screen cost 830 usd here D: it will prolly end out with me buying that monitor if i know myself right but i would really rather not spend that much money




I've got a LG 43MU79-B about $500, it's really nice but no freesync and 60hz. 
 
High refresh rate 4K is expensive, usually like over $1000 but here's Acer for $700:
 
 
 
Here's a full list, lots of nice 1440p144 monitors around $300-$500 USD.
 
 
 


Thank you for the help ! been looking around for some time now and i think im going with the asus swift PG279 27.. 
I was looking for case-modding and there is non around for my h700 as far as i know, what i wanted was to create more airflow. But eff it, i can do it myself - i should have the right tools for it, my friend even offered to let a guy at his work do it, he had some sort of lazercutter he could progam to do it for him so it would be nice and all (dont know that much about it to be hornest) he said the only concern was the material and painting mabye burning or behaving weird, i tought i would just buy a spare front panel to make testing on then but i cant seem to find em as a sparepart without buying the whole cabinet D: so i guess i cut, and paint the whole case if needed, im thinking about making a black - copper painted theme in the honor of the kingpin - not to much copper tough and i have some pretty nice copper spray painting in spare that looks realistic - they would do the job well i guess. I will prolly make a new thread about it when the time comes. 
 
In terms of more cooling im thinking about making something like this  - if any of you guys think its pointless or have any ideas please post !! :) im a noob at this.
 
 
 
I was thinking about cutting does parts out and se how gentle i can repair the cuttet edges with black paint, if it looks terrible i have to paint the whole case.
Mabye i would cut the gitter on both sides - or mabye just leave it at the right side like on the picture 
 

 
 
 
I have no idea what shape or where exatcly i would cut here .. it really depends on how my setup is going to fit and i really only know that when i get all the parts i ordered home in next week as i think its a lil hard to visualize all of this right now' but im trying my best  
 

 
 
 
Next i was thinking about cutting the gitter out on the top and mabye the whole gitter on the back if it would help anything

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/09 14:23:08 (permalink)
Nice choice on the monitor!;)

Yeah I always cut those fan covers off to increase air flow.

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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/10 02:39:57 (permalink)
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Nice choice on the monitor!;)

Yeah I always cut those fan covers off to increase air flow.

actually gonna call it back tomrrow and pick the Swift Pg279QE instead - just anoying that i cant find any reviws on it but it should be the same as Pg279Q but just a different design and a  "Low Blue Light Mode" and i guess thats pretty good.  Also i discovered the screen i already picked had a curve lol :D im really stressed out atm so I tend to do stuff pretty spontaneous, and dont read propper... : I   also i think im  gonna upgrade to a seagide 1000w gold - just because i have a feeling my 750 bronze will be on the edge if i overclock hard - Rainstryke also said that earlier in this thread, but i dit not get if it was only if i would go LN2 that would matter at all
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/10 02:54:55 (permalink)
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Nice choice on the monitor!;)

Yeah I always cut those fan covers off to increase air flow.

actually gonna call it back tomrrow and pick the Swift Pg279QE instead - just anoying that i cant find any reviws on it but it should be the same as Pg279Q but just a different design and a  "Low Blue Light Mode" and i guess thats pretty good.  Also i discovered the screen i already picked had a curve lol :D im really stressed out atm so I tend to do stuff pretty spontaneous, and dont read propper... : I   also i think im  gonna upgrade to a seagide 1000w gold - just because i have a feeling my 750 bronze will be on the edge if i overclock hard - Rainstryke also said that earlier in this thread, but i dit not get if it was only if i would go LN2 that would matter at all




Yeah you will never get that high of wattage without using the xoc bios or something, its only good for 530 watts and on regular liquid you wont get it much above 400 watts or so anyways, as far as your monitor this is a great choice as well, its what i'm using. 
Acer Predator Z1 Z321QU , its pretty much identical specs as what your looking at only its 32" curved and has 7 watt speakers instead of 2 watt speakers and lower priced in most places.
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/10 07:43:05 (permalink)
I'd pick asus over Acer.. I've heard bad crap about acer customer service.. though the same with Asus in the past but not even a year ago I had to contact asus about my monitor and they sent me a new one in return no issues at all lol.

I seen my machine pull over 600 watts on load with my Kingpin while benching. I had a Kill-A-Watt connected to the psu.

Be smart to upgrade to atleast a 1000watt psu. I have a evga 1300watt.

Psu's age and it's always the thing people either dont think about or try to ignore when upgrading to save money. Most important thing and can cause all sorts of issues if it cant keep up.

A curved screen is not a big deal.. I have a dell alienware 34" ultra wide that's curved and you dont even notice the curve when looking at it.

Here it is:

https://www.microcenter.c...ved-led-gaming-monitor

Oh and real quick.. a case like this you wont need to worry about air flow.

https://www.microcenter.c...-computer-case---black
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Re: Need help choosing a new 2080ti card 2019/11/10 07:47:25 (permalink)
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I'd pick asus over Acer.. I've heard bad crap about acer customer service.. though the same with Asus in the past but not even a year ago I had to contact asus about my monitor and they sent me a new one in return no issues at all lol.

I seen my machine pull over 600 watts on load with my Kingpin while benching. I had a Kill-A-Watt connected to the psu.

Be smart to upgrade to atleast a 1000watt psu. I have a evga 1300watt.

Psu's age and it's always the thing people either dont think about or try to ignore when upgrading to save money. Most important thing and can cause all sorts of issues if it cant keep up.

A curved screen is not a big deal.. I have a dell alienware 34" ultra wide that's curved and you dont even notice the curve when looking at it.



Yeah but the gpu didn't pull over 600 watts alone on the standard bios, the computer might have but not the gpu alone is what i was getting at. i can get mine to pull 900 watts as a whole system but thats with the XOC bios, 7980XE at 5.0GHz on all cores as well . As far as the monitors, they just like everything else for the computers parts and customer service, they all have good reports they all have bad reports. 
post edited by dwexpress - 2019/11/10 07:50:44




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