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2019/11/05 10:18:31 (permalink)
Hello...first time poster here looking for info on how the 2060 Super does with RDR2. I built my gaming PC what seems like a lifetime ago...close to a decade I think. I'm running Windows 7 with an EVGA X58 SLI mobo, Intel i7-980X with water block, 16GB RAM, a 1TB Samsung Pro SSD (forget exactly which one, not the newest gen, last gen) and SLI EVGA GTX 580 3GB Hydro Copper cards. One of my EVGA 580s just died after all these years (I think, it may just need re-seated more forcefully but the cards are so old and SLI is barely used anymore so I really don't notice any worse performance with just one card), and even if they both still worked, I'm long past being able to run any game I want at 1920x1200 with max settings at a locked 60FPS, which is a requirement for me. I don't game nearly as much as I used to, which is why I am still using such old hardware.
 
When Intel announced that the new i9-10980XE cards were going to be $1,000 (what I paid for the 980x all those years ago) instead of the ASININE two grand, I was planning on doing a full system upgrade with a Hydro Copper 2080 Ti, 128GB of RAM, EVGA X299 board and the whole nine yards. As you can tell by my current rig (I guess you have to imagine it is 2009 or so), I spend a fortune once and cry once. I buy the best of the best and live with that for quite a few years. Anyway, with the announcement of the $1,000 Intel CPUs (because I REFUSE to spend two grand on a CPU), I was planning on upgrading for RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077. However, as I was doing my research on which parts to buy, it looks like I should wait for things like PCIe 4 (or even 5 as they apparently might skip a generation) and the next generation of Nvidia cards which will apparently be out sometime in the next 6 months. I'm not going to spend $1,600 on a Hydro Copper 2080 Ti right now when the next gen is 6 months away and the only new games I will play in that span are RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077.
 
Now that I've written a novel here, the point is I want to spend the least amount of cash I can to get the best performance I can, because whichever card I buy right now will only last me 6 months and then stay in my current rig as a backup system. I want to run RDR2 (and hopefully Cyberpunk) at 1920x1200 on max settings with no ray tracing and get a steady 60FPS at all times. I would like to know if anybody has a 2060 Super and is achieving that kind of performance? I am specifically looking at buying this card: (Edit- I guess I can't post a link so it is the EVGA RTX 2060 Super XC Gaming 08G-P4-3162-KR) and putting the EVGA waterblock on it. A 2070 Super would end up being about $80 more and if I can get by with a 2060 Super instead then that's the way I prefer to go. Anybody have the opportunity to test RDR2 with the 2060 Super I linked above? I know pretty much everybody will have a MUCH newer CPU/mobo/RAM/etc than I do, but I don't think anything I am running will "bottleneck" my performance in RDR2 with a 2060 Super at 1920x1200, even though my mobo is still using PCIe 2. Thanks for any help.
 
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 07:52:31 (permalink)
at 1920x1200 = CPU may be a bottleneck

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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 08:07:46 (permalink)
Thinking a 10 year old CPU will not bottleneck a RTX2060 Super is naive at best. 
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 08:32:55 (permalink)
https://forums.evga.com/How-is-your-RTX-2060-Super-Handling-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-m3005172.aspx#3005281
 
For 60FPS, I'm thinking that the i7-990X might actually do OK with it.  There's just not all that much going on in the game AFAIK in terms of explosions, vehicles, NPC's or destructible environments.....?
 
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?id=867
post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/11/06 09:01:19
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 08:40:06 (permalink)

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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 08:53:27 (permalink)
Yeah I seen an article (cant find it now) this morning on it. Dying to find out on my rig and both 4k and an 34" ultrawide screen.

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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 10:07:59 (permalink)
I apologize for this getting double posted.  After I tried to post my question the first time I noticed mistakes and edited it.  Then I ended up editing it AGAIN and my post totally disappeared from the forum...I assume due to some anti-spam program.  I didn't know it would just randomly show back up or else I would not have made a new post a few hours after my first one disappeared...that's why there are two threads now.
 
To answer some responses...not to be rude but I would be SHOCKED if my CPU prevented me from running RDR2 at 60 FPS at just 1920x1200 resolution with a new GPU.  I bought the Resident Evil 2 remake for Xbone X because I didn't think my PC could handle it at reasonable graphics settings.  After I beat the game once on my Xbone X, I realized that I truly do despise consoles and their garbage controllers, so I bought it on Steam.  This was AFTER one of my GTX 580s bit the dust, so I was running it on my 980x, 16 gigs of RAM, a Samsung SSD and a single 3GB GTX 580.  I can run that game (which just came out in January of this year) at what I would call medium-high settings at a solid 55-60 fps.  I was STUNNED that my 10-year old rig could accomplish even that. 
 
Are you guys saying that a brand new RTX card would be so badly bottle necked by my CPU that I couldn't even turn the settings up on a game like RE2 and max them out at 1920x1200 at a locked 60FPS?  I'm not looking to enjoy 4k gaming on a 10-year-old rig with just a new graphics card, I'm simply using a new GPU as a bridge to last me 6-9 months until the next generation of mobos, CPUs and GPUs are released.  The ONLY new games I will need my old rig to run in that time are RDR2 and maybe Cyberpunk 2077.  Not trying to be rude or anything, but you guys might be surprised at just how fantastic the i7-980x/990x really is.  That's why I was willing to spend $1,000 on it when it came out, and it ended up being an excellent investment.
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 10:22:12 (permalink)
Yes, the chart Nvidia released in that article is specifically why I asked this question.  Rockstar's initial hardware specs CLAIMED that (I think) an RTX 1660 was the "recommended" card, which is clearly BS based on the results people are currently getting in the game.  I'm not interested in buying a 1660-level card, but the chart in that article you linked claimed that a standard (non-Super) 2060 was enough to get 60 FPS at 1920x1080, so I ASSUMED that a 2060 Super should be able to handle 1920x1200 at 60 FPS on high settings.  Again, that is why I asked though...that chart also claims that a 2070 Super can hit 60 FPS on high settings at 2560x1440 resolution, so if I need to consider a 2070 Super to achieve the graphics settings I want at just 1920x1200 instead, then I will.  I just prefer to spend as little as possible to get 1920x1200 at 60 FPS when whichever card I buy is going to sit unused in this old rig as my backup system once the next gen hardware comes out sometime next year.
 
I want to say again that I am NOT looking to play games at 4k resolution with a 10-year-old rig and a 2060 Super...I just want to know if people are easily hitting 60 FPS with maxed-out settings at 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 resolution with their RTX 2060 Supers in RDR2.  Unfortunately it seems that either nobody owns a 2060 Super or the people who do own them haven't played RDR2 yet.  I don't want to spend $400 on a new card that can't even handle the one and only PC game I really care about playing.
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 11:14:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AJ090 2019/11/06 23:37:52
More info detailed info here, including testing with the 2060 Super and other comparable cards.
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/red-dead-redemption-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/4.html
 
45 FPS with a 2080 Ti in 4K.  LOL.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/11/06 11:36:06
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/06 11:34:38 (permalink)
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Yes, the chart Nvidia released in that article is specifically why I asked this question.  Rockstar's initial hardware specs CLAIMED that (I think) an RTX 1660 was the "recommended" card, which is clearly BS based on the results people are currently getting in the game.  I'm not interested in buying a 1660-level card, but the chart in that article you linked claimed that a standard (non-Super) 2060 was enough to get 60 FPS at 1920x1080, so I ASSUMED that a 2060 Super should be able to handle 1920x1200 at 60 FPS on high settings.  Again, that is why I asked though...that chart also claims that a 2070 Super can hit 60 FPS on high settings at 2560x1440 resolution, so if I need to consider a 2070 Super to achieve the graphics settings I want at just 1920x1200 instead, then I will.  I just prefer to spend as little as possible to get 1920x1200 at 60 FPS when whichever card I buy is going to sit unused in this old rig as my backup system once the next gen hardware comes out sometime next year.
 
I want to say again that I am NOT looking to play games at 4k resolution with a 10-year-old rig and a 2060 Super...I just want to know if people are easily hitting 60 FPS with maxed-out settings at 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 resolution with their RTX 2060 Supers in RDR2.  Unfortunately it seems that either nobody owns a 2060 Super or the people who do own them haven't played RDR2 yet.  I don't want to spend $400 on a new card that can't even handle the one and only PC game I really care about playing.




Knowing Rockstar Games, there is probably some stupid unoptimized do-dad in the graphical settings that kneecaps performance, mostly for the sake of trolling the gaming press and the public.  In GTA V it's the grass.  Max settings on the grass cut performance in half.  I didn't buy GTA 5 until this year, so I probably won't buy RDR2 until 2024.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/11/06 11:40:46
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/07 00:56:02 (permalink)
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More info detailed info here, including testing with the 2060 Super and other comparable cards.
 

 
45 FPS with a 2080 Ti in 4K.  LOL.




That is actually very helpful, thanks.  I'd still really like to hear some real world results from people with a 2060 Super (and a 2070 Super), but that test you linked backed up another test I saw on YouTube.  Basically it looks like I would be better off spending the extra money and going for the 2070 Super over the 2060 Super...as much as I'd prefer not to.  The 2060 Super seems like the absolute bare minimum if you want to run the game on near-Ultra settings at 1920x1200 and get CLOSE to a constant 60 FPS.
 
That link also saved me from wasting money on the just-restocked non-Super RTX 2070 from EVGA.  I figured that the extra CUDA cores of the standard 2070 would provide a noticeable increase in performance over the 2060 Super and at just $40 more than a 2060 Super that it would be the way to go, but based on the charts in that link, the 2070 performs EXACTLY the same as a 2060 Super at all resolutions.  The 2070 Super, however, has noticeably better performance at Ultra settings...at least to the point that I could run the game at 1920x1200 with Ultra or near-Ultra settings and get 60 FPS.
 
Taking all that into account, can somebody tell me what the difference is between the 2070 Super "Black Gaming" (08G-P4-3071-KR), the 2070 Super "Gaming" with the single fan (08G-P4-3070-KR) and the 2070 Super "XC Gaming" (08G-P4-3172-KR)?  Is it really just clock speed?  And why is the "Black Gaming" version with the dual fan shroud CHEAPER than the "reference" card with a single fan shroud?  That doesn't make sense to me considering the specs are identical between the two according to the listings.  I plan on putting a water block on whichever card I get so I don't care how many fans the card has, but I don't want to buy a somehow "lower quality" card just to save $10 or $20.
 
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/07 06:05:54 (permalink)
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More info detailed info here, including testing with the 2060 Super and other comparable cards.
 
 
 
45 FPS with a 2080 Ti in 4K.  LOL.




That is actually very helpful, thanks.  I'd still really like to hear some real world results from people with a 2060 Super (and a 2070 Super), but that test you linked backed up another test I saw on YouTube.  Basically it looks like I would be better off spending the extra money and going for the 2070 Super over the 2060 Super...as much as I'd prefer not to.  The 2060 Super seems like the absolute bare minimum if you want to run the game on near-Ultra settings at 1920x1200 and get CLOSE to a constant 60 FPS.
 
That link also saved me from wasting money on the just-restocked non-Super RTX 2070 from EVGA.  I figured that the extra CUDA cores of the standard 2070 would provide a noticeable increase in performance over the 2060 Super and at just $40 more than a 2060 Super that it would be the way to go, but based on the charts in that link, the 2070 performs EXACTLY the same as a 2060 Super at all resolutions.  The 2070 Super, however, has noticeably better performance at Ultra settings...at least to the point that I could run the game at 1920x1200 with Ultra or near-Ultra settings and get 60 FPS.
 
Taking all that into account, can somebody tell me what the difference is between the 2070 Super "Black Gaming" (08G-P4-3071-KR), the 2070 Super "Gaming" with the single fan (08G-P4-3070-KR) and the 2070 Super "XC Gaming" (08G-P4-3172-KR)?  Is it really just clock speed?  And why is the "Black Gaming" version with the dual fan shroud CHEAPER than the "reference" card with a single fan shroud?  That doesn't make sense to me considering the specs are identical between the two according to the listings.  I plan on putting a water block on whichever card I get so I don't care how many fans the card has, but I don't want to buy a somehow "lower quality" card just to save $10 or $20.
 
I also wanted to ask if all "Associate Codes" provide the exact same discount, or do certain people have codes that offer a larger discount?  And does anybody know of any "Coupon Codes" and/or "Promo Codes" that would apply to a new EVGA 2070 Super in addition to an "Associate Code"?  Thanks.
 




That 'Black' GPUs are the base model SKUs of the 2070 SUPER. 
 
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING, 08G-P4-3070-KR, 8GB GDDR6, RGB LED Logo  (BLOWER STYLE)
 
Single fan 'Blower style' as we call them push the air out the back of the case instead of spread it through out the case like the other cooling configurations but comes at a noise level cost as they will be extremely loud.  They are usually great for small confined cases or for those that just like blower style cooling.  It does come with a RGB LED Logo as it says while most blacks don't come with RGBs and no backplate.
 
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER BLACK GAMING, 08G-P4-3071-KR, 8GB GDDR6  (BLACK)
 
This GPU is similar to the one above just different cooling solutions which should be quieter but doesn't come with RGB lighting and no backplate.
 
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC GAMING, 08G-P4-3172-KR, 8GB GDDR6, Dual HDB Fans, RGB LED, Metal Backplate  (XC)
 
Same cooling as the dual fan Black but comes with guaranteed higher clocks (1800 MHz), RGB Lighting and a backplate.  All around more features than the other two above.
 
 
Now say for $70-$100 more, you introduce your self to options with more features.  For example,
 
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC HYBRID GAMING, 08G-P4-3178-KR, 8GB GDDR6, WATERCOOLED  (XC HYBRID)
 
For cooler temps and the introduction to liquid cooling, this setup will cool nicely.  Don't think it comes with RGB lighting and a backplate but does clock the same as the XC Gaming.
 
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER FTW3 ULTRA+, 08G-P4-3377-KR, 8GB 15.5GHz GDDR6, RGB, Metal Backplate  (FTW3 ULTRA+/iCX2)
 
If you want the best of the best that will give you the highest guaranteed advertised clocks (1815 MHz) out of the box with the newly released higher clocking RAM (15,500 MHz as opposed to 14,000 MHz), this is the GPU.  It comes with RGB lighting, backplate and iCX2 sensors.  They basically implemented sensors throughout the board to give you additional temp readings, that includes the RAM section.  Beefed up VRM section (Power) for OCing when your'e looking to benchmark with the rest.
 
If you don't care about OCing and just want to game and eventually add a WB to the GPU, any of those will suffice but if you want the beefed up VRM and guaranteed higher clocks out of the box, FTW3 Ultra+ is the choice.
 
 
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Re: How is your RTX 2060 Super Handling Red Dead Redemption 2? 2019/11/10 13:17:50 (permalink)
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More info detailed info here, including testing with the 2060 Super and other comparable cards.
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/red-dead-redemption-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/4.html
 
45 FPS with a 2080 Ti in 4K.  LOL.


Interesting. My 2080 Ti at stock settings with only the fan speed at 100% got 49 fps with the same settings.
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