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2019/10/29 09:45:24 (permalink)
No it's not the usual GPU vs CPU.  I know that's really a non issue.  I was watching LTT's latest video cause I wanted to see the new Corsair hydro X stuff in a build and he did a loop order thing that really confused me.  He went res > cpu > rad > gpu > res.  I thought you were always supposed to go from a rad back to the res so the pump had cool water both for it and to send out into the system again.  Does that really not matter?  In my own loop which is res > GPU > CPU > rad > res the side coming out of the CPU can get much warmer than the side coming out of the rad, though I guess if I had the rad in the middle it would probably even out.  Anyway I guess I'm just curious if it's ok to go from a component putting out heat back to the res/pump or if you're supposed to go through a rad first.

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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 10:38:23 (permalink)
    I dont' think it matters.  I just want the res before any component to make sure no air bubbles go back in to the system.    Putting the res and rad before the CPU can cool it.   I prefer CPU cooling before GPU.    I find I can always get better overclocks off the CPU than GPU.   But it's whatever.   
     
    You also could put a splitter so that it goes    Radiator - res, splitter (gpu and cpu)   Splitter, back to res.     You get cooler water to both cpu and gpu.  Ideally, though, gpu and cpu should be on seperate loops with seperate radiators. 

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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 10:51:30 (permalink)
    NO - Is the general rule .... if you run the loop long enough it does Not Matter ...
     
    1) short sprint - chasing records the loop is not up to temp - order may make a bigger impact
     
    2) The heat picked-up from one device can make the coolant warmer as it goes to the next device 
     
    So, because the GPU is more sensitive to performance drop - based on Temp - I like to cool them before the CPU adds its thermal load to the coolant
     
    Mine goes: Reservoir, pump, Rad1, GPUs, CPU, Rad2
     
    If my CPU runs 5-10 C warmer after the GPUs - it does Not impact performance of the system

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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 11:23:03 (permalink)
    Thanks guys, well now I know I have more routing options if needed then when I do my case move.  

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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 12:17:22 (permalink)
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    NO - Is the general rule .... if you run the loop long enough it does Not Matter ...
     
    1) short sprint - chasing records the loop is not up to temp - order may make a bigger impact
     
    2) The heat picked-up from one device can make the coolant warmer as it goes to the next device 
     
    So, because the GPU is more sensitive to performance drop - based on Temp - I like to cool them before the CPU adds its thermal load to the coolant
     
    Mine goes: Reservoir, pump, Rad1, GPUs, CPU, Rad2
     
    If my CPU runs 5-10 C warmer after the GPUs - it does Not impact performance of the system




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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 14:23:08 (permalink)
    I go from the pump to the CPU to a rad. to the GPU to a rad. back to the pump. 
    Seems to work fine for me. Everything goes through a rad. before the component to be as cool as possible. 
    I like to do that because the CPU temp is important to me, running BOINC with the CPU at 100% load I want it cool, no heat from the GPU.
    Often they are both at 100% load, so no heat from one bothering the other.

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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 14:24:46 (permalink)
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    NO - Is the general rule .... if you run the loop long enough it does Not Matter ...
     
    1) short sprint - chasing records the loop is not up to temp - order may make a bigger impact
     
    2) The heat picked-up from one device can make the coolant warmer as it goes to the next device 
     
    So, because the GPU is more sensitive to performance drop - based on Temp - I like to cool them before the CPU adds its thermal load to the coolant
     
    Mine goes: Reservoir, pump, Rad1, GPUs, CPU, Rad2
     
    If my CPU runs 5-10 C warmer after the GPUs - it does Not impact performance of the system




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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/10/29 15:16:12 (permalink)
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    Re: Watercooling loop order? 2019/11/14 18:22:38 (permalink)
    I do Res>pump>rad>cpu>rad>gpu>rad>gpu>rad>gpu>rad>res.  I need more radiators to mount fans on so I can see more pretty flashing fan lights.

     
     
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