I can't describe to people, Intel can't reach AMD performance before they pull back in hole and show up with new technology after 2-3 years.
AMD have new engine and could enjoy several years improving him.
Intel only could be happy because their position and inferiority is far better then situation of AMD when Intel jump to Core 2 Duo. 
  

Should be a beast on the rendering/work-bench side of things; but I'm not sure this will translate down the line to the Radeon cards & gaming if their biggest improvement is just tacking on super fast memory onto these cards when their whole goal is to remain a bargain compared to Nvidia price-points.

The GPU wars might heating up - if performance or price are significantly different
 
We'll just have to sit back and wait for those Future launches .... whenever they actually happen

NVIDIA is more about lies than just hype rofl.. every company tries their best to gain as much market interest yes that is what marketing does right?

So far AMD has actually proven that you can buy a top performing Navi GPU for 400 USD and beat a 2080 Super, yes there are 5700 XT models that can do this... take the Power Color RX 5700 XT Red Devil as a good example, there are plenty reviews that even show that, not in all games but thanks to great driver improvements it gets super close and that for a price difference of 450 a 460 euros a 2080 Super is around 852 a 900 euros in my country the Red Devil is around 439 Euros.
Here a lovely video proving it from Tech of Tomorrow a very neutral test watch the entire thing and you can see for yourself.

And this is out of the box performance btw

The RX 5700 XT is only the first Navi card and it's already giving these over priced RTX cards a very hard time, quite enjoyable to see if I have to be honest.
Next gen Navi could be like a nuke to NV's market infrastructure, afterall they mentioned a NVIDIA killer GPU hehe I am curious tho, but such things are always welcome, you can't win for ever and trust me I seen super sized companies fall in a matter of weeks companies that wee triple the side of NVIDIA so anything can happen on all ends.

Also how Zen 2 obliterated Intel's Coffee lake & Sky Lake CPU's, these lake CPU's are actually reproduced old designs they kept releasing time and time again with less than 5% performance difference per CPU.
Even the buyers were force to replace their mainboards...hmm oke then.

NVIDIA's like Apple's & Intel's when it comes to prices, they are all a joke and a major insult to the market, just how they lie and false market their products.
If they really want to compete they have to start lowering their prices for at least 40 to 50% 
That is if people would even want to find them of interest, also the amount of security leaks Intel has been camping with, whelp doesn't affect the AMD CPU's because they are of a better design.

Ah well we shall see indeed, so far I know what I am advising people I know, plus for the most of it people with the proper knowledge with accurate information from reliable resources over those sites sponsered by Intel Apple or NVIDIA, those are propaganda sites that are packed with tricks and lies.

I have at least the guts to mention these things you can't like everything right, and Idon't like false marketing lies.
Most people buy AMD Ryzens & Radeons these days, they are just more affordable and they give top performance for a good deal and that is all what matters.

Like Paul from not an apple fan, I too am a fan of consumer market friendly prices and products that give you a good bag for buck.
And yea AMD outsold NVIDIA lol


I too used to be different when I used to have a good job, but that all changed when I became disabled, I seek best bang for buck, I seek truth and ignore propaganda, i leave that to the cabbages.
AMD offers all of that, as where Intel, NVIDIA and Apple.. they don't, they just rip you off right in your face and still try to lie around it, after the 30+ years of computing experience I know what companies to avoid.
 
It's a shame such well known companies need to lie about their products there by hiding their failures that is a major disappointment.

I think the important thing here is that AMD is learning to compete again. I am hopeful that in 2020 AMD will have far better GPUs. They probably won't have the best GPU but I think if they can make a GPU that is slightly better than an RTX 2080 and cheaper that would be a win situation. There is no way that AMD can make a GPU that can compete with the RTX 2080ti but if they can narrow the gap in performance with every GPU release I would be very happy. 

AMD's marketing has been meaningless for ages. The more they hype up a GPU the worse it eventually does or the longer it ends up delayed while they fix things. HBM2 wasn't a fix for an inefficient uArch design and it just make the cards expensive with thin profit margins for AMD. Throwing fancy expensive memory solutions at new derivatives is still not going to fix the problem. I don't think AMD has the resources left to design a performance-leading flagship card anymore, heck their marketing budget is probably as large as their future R&D budget. 
 
 

AMD is doing this themselves really, MS has utterly nothing to do with on what they are doing.
They just don't find it of need to have RT & Tensor cores in their current GPU's because less than THREE games use Ray Tracing, so who cares? Nobody does.
Most gamers want image quality and good performance on a global result in their games over some tech that horridly cascades the performance and image quality yes DLSS isn't great and RTX doesn't do what it should be doing, Ray Tracing isn't made by NVIDIA it's been around since 1989, so please stop over marketing something you do not own NVIDIA it makes you look stupid.

Corteks has the perfect analogy when it comes to adding Ray tracing to a GPU that barely can do parts of it< it's like adding wings to a car but you'll only fly 5 seconds but you will crash and die anyways in the end

Tom from Moore's law is Dead had a podcast explaining this with Coteks in this video:

Go to 15:28 to hear this lovey analogy
Sorry for bringing that up but I thought it was kind of need.
And personally I never saw the difference, I was never given the special green glasses to see the difference anyways so just marketing nonsense in the end.
Copanies will try to go far when it comes to such things, it's a shaem it still happens these days but it's not all too surprising.

AMD thinks for all users users for Linux, Mac OS as well as Microsoft they think on a more global pattern, since their GPU's are in all major Console brands from Sony Plantation 4 & up, Google Stradia, Microsoft X-Box One & up & Nintendo Wii and up, they kind of are already ruling the market there and for your information 50% of the gamers use Consoles ;)

NVIDIA has to suffer by selling downgraded Server chips for the gaming market resulting large oversized die's that costs more in the end, impractical idea's being used, they are not even on 7nm even if they were their dies would still be larger than that of what AMD is making, TX 2080 Super at 7nm would still be around 438mm2, the RT cores need space, the tensor cores need space etc.
Here a lovely video explaining how and why, Paul aka NAAF explains:


AMD has been behind for some time, yes that is true well max performance wise, even their goal is the mid range market this is a market that most cards are being sold, even though not having a high end card does seem rather lacking, but I'm not worried about it.
Yet price performance sector related, they have always done pretty well.

As for using HBM2E that is a very logical move, I look forward to seeing this VRAM type in action, yet not HBM3 was chosen also interesting I guess.

Rumor : AMD Bringing Ray Tracing Support to Navi in December

Officially, AMD's Navi supports ray tracing in software but does not have specialized hardware built-in for ray tracing acceleration. However, while specialized hardware can help accelerate ray tracing it is not a requirement to support Microsoft's DirectX Ray Tracing feature.
 
https://wccftech.com/rumor-amd-bringing-ray-tracing-support-to-navi-in-december-driver-release/
 
 
 
it looks like they are gonna leverage Cloud computing for RT
hardware won't come til next gen
 
 
Still AMD will take a bigger hit in performance