https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/msi-amd-x570-motherboard-pricing,news-60894.html
 
MSI's CEO Charles Chiang laid out what we were already seeing with motherboard designs from all vendors of AMD's X570-based motherboards: pricing is likely increasing across the board, and AMD's market positioning won't be of the alternative, lower-value brand.

As quoted, Chiang said that ""Lots of people ask me, what do you think about today's AMD? I say today's AMD is completely different company compared to two, three, five years ago. They have nice technology and they are there to put the higher spec with the reasonable pricing. But right now they say, "Hey Charles, let's push to marketing to the higher [end]. So let's sell higher-pricing motherboards, higher-spec motherboards, and let's see what will happen in the market. So I don't think that AMD is the company that wants to sell low cost here, low cost there." Which does make sense: AMD isn't in the position of the underdog anymore -at least technology and product-portfolio wise when it comes to consumer CPUs. With better products, comes a desire for higher margins, and a change in direction for a company that was basically forced to almost cut itself out of the market in terms of profits with its previous, non-competitive CPU designs.
 
In my personal opinion when you start adding more and more features to a chipset then the prices will go up.

I don’t think it’s ready for high end parts from AMD. Nobody wants them to be more then Intel and really people will see them as a budget brand for years to come. Only people who fallow computers closely would see that they are better then a budget brand. I feel they shouldn’t be budget but not high end.

I dunno i kind of see this as a good thing, AMD has indeed been a underdog but perhaps more presence on the high end wont be a bad thing.
I can see AMD making attention with the new ryzen 9 processor line when they launch, the IPC gains seem to be in line for AMD to really pull punches with intel.
We could be seeing a reversal of fortunes for AMD and in a way this is a good thing as it forces intel to be competitive and innovative again.
 
Though I will have to say that yeah x570 is probably not going to be on my system anytime soon.
Hello B550 when that comes out or slightly higher end B450 with the BIOS for Zen 3.

I just view it as the reason people liked the war with AMD is that AMD was the value brand offering amazing performance at a great price and it got Intel's attention. As they go high end it really becomes if you like AMD or Intel more and well Intel has far more to throw into marketing.

Hoggle
I don’t think it’s ready for high end parts from AMD. Nobody wants them to be more then Intel and really people will see them as a budget brand for years to come. Only people who fallow computers closely would see that they are better then a budget brand. I feel they shouldn’t be budget but not high end.

Reality and perceptions of it can change pretty quickly. I remember when the Athlon 1 Ghz was first introduced, beating Intel to 1 Ghz. Its tray price was $1,300 USD, with the 950 MHz model being $1,000 USD. At that moment, Intel had superior chipsets but AMD had stronger CPUs, so AMD could definitely sell CPUs at those prices. It was only a few years earlier that AMD was known mainly for its value oriented CPUs like the K6 and K6-2.
 
I won't be at all surprised if AMD's average selling prices rise meaningfully in the next year or two.
 
Meanwhile, it's a shame about the PCIE gen 4 prices being so high. Perhaps the best value proposition is to pair X470 with Zen 2 CPUs.

Well I've gone through 2 MSI x470 gaming boards that have been complete garbage.  First one the primary pcie slot died, second one that i am currently using (bought new, returned first), the USB ports will only allow 1 device per pair of ports.  MSI has treated x470 as bargain basement, even though they have great vrms for power handling the rest of the components suck.  Once x570 is out, I plan to buy one, RMA this POS, and sell the refurb.  I just hope x570 is built better.

Gamers Nexus explains it here:
 

veganfanatic

Ranmacanada
Well I've gone through 2 MSI x470 gaming boards that have been complete garbage.  First one the primary pcie slot died, second one that i am currently using (bought new, returned first), the USB ports will only allow 1 device per pair of ports.  MSI has treated x470 as bargain basement, even though they have great vrms for power handling the rest of the components suck.  Once x570 is out, I plan to buy one, RMA this POS, and sell the refurb.  I just hope x570 is built better.

That is rather peculiar as my MSI board with USB 3.1 ports all work fine no matter what I have plugged in. Makes me wonder if your PSU is inadequate.
 
I am still using my Corsair AX860i which has abundant power for anything I want to do.
 

EVGA SuperNOVA 1000  PQ power supply.  So no, not inadequate (I just haven't updated my signature as this system was a stopgap till Zen2).  Also, as soon as I installed a PCI-E USB card, issues stopped when I used that card :).  When I use my front USB for having my controller plugged in, the controller will stop responding if I say go downstairs and get a sandwich, or something, while it is still lit up and detected.  All sleep functions and power savings functions are off.  I also need to have my keyboard and mouse in the front as it is magically too far away from where they are placed, if they use the back.  I never had this issue with my Sabertooth X79, and the current computer is in the same spot.
 
I've given up on the MSI forums, as they are hostile when you ask questions about products that don't work perfectly, and their "experts" are basically being morons when they tell you repeat steps you've already mentioned you've done in your own troubleshooting, multiple times.  I mean they told a guy with a dead pci-e slot to do EVERYTHING but even try the card in to a different slot.  As soon as I mentioned the OP to try it, I got chastised to not interfere with an expert.  Low and behold, OP tried the card in a different slot, and it worked.  

NazcaC2
My X58 did that at one time (USB ports stopped responding) but ironed itself out eventually with driver, Windows and or BIOS updates - not quite sure which.

And, I'm happy that it's slipping out of budget territory. Zen 2 and X570 deserves it.

I agree, if you want a budget Ryzen 3000 build buy an X470 board, if on a real budget get B450 or X370, Many of the MSI boards have USB Bios Flashback so even if not on latest bios easy to update if you don't have an older Ryzen CPU. ASUS also does on their crosshair boards.

DamonLynch

vegajf51
 
I agree, if you want a budget Ryzen 3000 build buy an X470 board, if on a real budget get B450 or X370

I just picked up a used Asrock Taichi X470. It's working well so far. The BIOS config is a real mess compared to EVGA but otherwise it's doing the job.

Makes us wish EVGA would start making AMD boards haha.