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2019/05/17 01:57:46 (permalink)
What was NVidia thinking when they created this card?
 
The 1060 6GB is faster than this one!
If money was an issue, I'd go with AMD.
Their $130 RX 570 / $150 RX 580 blows this $160 GT 1650 out of the water, 
But if I wanted an Nvidia of this price category, it's hard not to go for a second hand $100 1060 instead!
Or new, get a 1660; or even a 1660ti or 2060, which in my opinion is a MUCH better buy for the $$$ (despite the higher price).
The 1650 doesn't even do many modern 1080p games at highest quality settings.
The VRAM is slow, the performance per watt stinks compared to higher cards, and the GPU is so yesteryear...

The choice for me is simple:
1080p gaming today: 1660 or AMD RX 570/580
1080p gaming for the next 4 years: 1060 ti or Vega 56
1440p gaming for the next 4 years: 2060 or Vega 64
4k gaming for the next 4 years: 2080 or Radeon VII
Folding/mining/crunching: 1660, 2060, 2080, or 2080 ti.
There is no other card that makes sense in my mind to buy, below the 1660.
No one owns any monitor below 1080p anymore, unless if it's a mobile device like a netbook or so...
 
And I'm sorry to say, but EVGA did horrible with their version of the 1650. Why make it 2,5 to triple slot???
A card with this performance should get a single slot, 1 fan design.
Instead they cram it with old and power hungry hardware, that takes up massive space!

Ugly, not good for a lot of reasons, aside from blocking other PCIE ports.
 
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/17 03:36:07 (permalink)
Well this is why refunds were invented.
But yes in the grand scope of things the 1650 is a waste of time and money and is only there as bait for those who are mislead into thinking only nvidia cards are the best.
Its certainly the worst card Nvidia has made since the 1030, a pointless venture only good for machines without decent power supplies like that crappy dell desktop you got last year for $200 on ebay.
 
For the budget market right now go AMD, honestly there is some good hardware here.
Sure once you get past a certain price point a nvidia card will be better but in the sub $200 category nvidia has jack diddly.
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/17 09:54:24 (permalink)
I would say it makes total sense when you consider the power draw that this entry level card is able to pull. At just 75W it's able to be fully powered without any motherboard connector. That means it can be thrown into an off the shelf Dell or HP someone has as a family computer without needing to replace the motherboard. In that case it's far better then any AMD card which could take the knowledge to replace the PSU which some people lack.
 
That said if you have a good power supply with enough power to spare it's hard to recommend the 1650 over the AMD cards. I just wanted to point out that the 1650 isn't the card in general that people buy who can build a computer from parts in a lot of cases.

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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/17 10:22:22 (permalink)
 
1650 was a replacement for the GTX 1050 ... budget friendly & Low power draw ... Upgrade from IGPU in the CPU
 
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/19 01:24:56 (permalink)
IMHO, that's what the 1660 should have been.
Too bad it can't be ran without the top PCI 6pin power connector, even if ran at below 75W.
But the 1660 can run at 75W or below.
NVidia should play around with 7nm on the 1660, to get it working on 75W.
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/19 01:42:18 (permalink)
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IMHO, that's what the 1660 should have been.
Too bad it can't be ran without the top PCI 6pin power connector, even if ran at below 75W.
But the 1660 can run at 75W or below.
NVidia should play around with 7nm on the 1660, to get it working on 75W.



If they could do that then I would have to say that NVIDIA would have a killer low end card. As I said above the only reason the 1650 really makes sense is the power draw and being able to throw it into a pre-built tower without needing to know how to replace a PSU. For 1080p gaming that would be a pretty good setup.

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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/19 02:00:45 (permalink)
Yes, you could lower the power draw from 100% (95W) to 80% (75W) in EVGA XOC or NVidia afterburner.
Usually giving a slightly lower (aka 10%) performance.
10% seems like a lot, but you probably won't even notice outside of the 1% low results.
Avt 66fps becomes 60, 33 fps 30, etc....

Also there are plenty of splitters and converter pins, to convert SATA, FFD, 4PIN HDD/FAN connectors, to 6 pin; or 6 pin to 2x6pin.
post edited by ProDigit - 2019/05/19 02:03:34
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/19 07:29:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ProDigit 2019/05/22 16:21:56
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I would say it makes total sense when you consider the power draw that this entry level card is able to pull. At just 75W it's able to be fully powered without any motherboard connector. That means it can be thrown into an off the shelf Dell or HP someone has as a family computer without needing to replace the motherboard. In that case it's far better then any AMD card which could take the knowledge to replace the PSU which some people lack.
 
That said if you have a good power supply with enough power to spare it's hard to recommend the 1650 over the AMD cards. I just wanted to point out that the 1650 isn't the card in general that people buy who can build a computer from parts in a lot of cases.

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If they could do that then I would have to say that NVIDIA would have a killer low end card. As I said above the only reason the 1650 really makes sense is the power draw and being able to throw it into a pre-built tower without needing to know how to replace a PSU. For 1080p gaming that would be a pretty good setup.

Well all of the EVGA GTX 1650s cards do in fact require a 6-pin PCI express power connector and now show a total power draw of 85 watts. Use to show 95 watts so don't know what to make of that? Edit: 6-pin for 10 watts.. stupid.
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/22 16:24:09 (permalink)
Agreed.
Instead sell lower binned 1660 GPUs, cap power to them at 75W, and give it a 2 slot single fan design (more than enough to cool a 75W card), and the 1660 would still perform a lot better than the 1650, on a much smaller footprint.
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Re: GTX 1650, does it even make sense? 2019/05/22 19:13:30 (permalink)
https://www.evga.com/articles/01326/evga-geforce-gtx-1650/
 
 
The GeForce® GTX 1650 follows in the tradition of the GeForce® GTX 650, GeForce® GTX 750, GeForce® GTX 950 and GeForce® GTX 1050 of offering performance for the fastest contemporary titles that you can throw at the card. Enjoy up to 70% higher performance when compared to the GeForce® GTX 1050 and up to 3x the performance of GeForce® GTX 950. GeForce® GTX 1650 is a performance breakthrough for E-Sports and 1080p gamers.

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