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AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions

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2019/02/16 01:56:08 (permalink)
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-dismisses-nvidia-dlss-harsh-scaling
 
While AMD pointed out that DLSS' market penetration was a low one, that's not the main issue of contention. In fact, AMD decides to go head-on against NVIDIA's own technical presentations, comparing DLSS' image quality and performance benefits against a native-resolution, TAA-enhanced image - they say that SMAA and TAA can work equally as well without "the image artefacts caused by the upscaling and harsh sharpening of DLSS."
 
"Some of the other broader available frameworks, like WindowsML and DirectML", and that these are "something we [AMD] are actively looking at optimizing… At some of the previous shows we've shown some of the upscaling, some of the filters available with WindowsML, running really well with some of our Radeon cards." So whether it's an actual image-quality philosophy, or just a competing technology's TTM (time to market) one, only AMD knows.
 
Personally I believe ANM"Some of the other broader available frameworks, like WindowsML and DirectML", and that these are "something we [AMD] are actively looking at optimizing… At some of the previous shows we've shown some of the upscaling, some of the filters available with WindowsML, running really well with some of our Radeon cards." So whether it's an actual image-quality philosophy, or just a competing technology's TTM (time to market) one, only AMD knows.
 
Personally I believe AMD will come up with an open source solution to DLSS

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    Re: AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions 2019/02/16 08:12:00 (permalink)
    Interesting article. I always believe ATI/AMD focused more on image quality than performance. Overall, i would like to see what AMD is working on.

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    Re: AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions 2019/02/17 00:11:23 (permalink)
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    Interesting article. I always believe ATI/AMD focused more on image quality than performance. Overall, i would like to see what AMD is working on.


    Apparently not much, after their most recent GPU launch... 
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    Re: AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions 2019/02/17 18:08:12 (permalink)
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    Interesting article. I always believe ATI/AMD focused more on image quality than performance. Overall, i would like to see what AMD is working on.


    Apparently not much, after their most recent GPU launch... 


    lol....yeah, it is nothing compare to Nvidia's RTX fail poor sales launch and lies of fail tech.
    To me DLSS means D.owngrade L.evel S.hadow S.ystem

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    Re: AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions 2019/02/18 23:45:15 (permalink)
    DXR and DLSS may improve in time.  At the very least, for $700 the RTX 2080 still outperforms the AMD Radeon VII when gaming without using those features.  I do believe that AMD may be able to improve performance in time with driver updates, but I really don't see much improvements until 3rd party cards are released.  The current Radeon VII runs very hot, I hope 3rd parties can fix that.  

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    Re: AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions 2019/02/19 11:56:56 (permalink)
    DXR and DLSS are at best marketing gimmicks
     

      


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    Re: AMD Doesn't Believe in NVIDIA's DLSS, Stands for Open SMAA and TAA Solutions 2019/02/19 12:18:15 (permalink)
    I think that the AI behind DSLL will become more and more important. If they can get to 50% faster and go from 60fps to 90fps would be a big improvement. The generation after that another 50% would put it at the 144fps range. Then it’s just focusing on image quality.

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