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2019/01/19 11:10:01 (permalink)
hello

i was checking EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid temp in GPU-Z and while i am gaming with 90-100% usage it has ~60C
is that liquid or GPU temp?

i have AMD Ryzen 2700x with EVGA CLC 280 cooler and with CPU 100% usage it has up to 70C and liquid ~37C, but when i check airflow from CLC 280 is cooler than GTX 1080 airflow from radiator
so it feels like air is coming out from EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid radiator 60C

i started to think that EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid is overheating, because after 5-10mins BF1 gaming i have game freeze, then DC and after checking some forums, some ppl says that it could be because of over heating

before that i had several times problem in Opera when i was watching video on youtube and clicked back, then Opera freezed for while, then Not responding, then became black and refreshed to normal, then everything was working fine

i already tried to clean GPU drivers with DDU and installed new drivers

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EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 11:45:12 (permalink)
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    hello

    i was checking EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid temp in GPU-Z and while i am gaming with 90-100% usage it has ~60C
    is that liquid or GPU temp?

    i have AMD Ryzen 2700x with EVGA CLC 280 cooler and with CPU 100% usage it has up to 70C and liquid ~37C, but when i check airflow from CLC 280 is cooler than GTX 1080 airflow from radiator
    so it feels like air is coming out from EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid radiator 60C

    i started to think that EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid is overheating, because after 5-10mins BF1 gaming i have game freeze, then DC and after checking some forums, some ppl says that it could be because of over heating

    before that i had several times problem in Opera when i was watching video on youtube and clicked back, then Opera freezed for while, then Not responding, then became black and refreshed to normal, then everything was working fine

    i already tried to clean GPU drivers with DDU and installed new drivers

    Asus prime x470-pro
    Ryzen 2700x Turbo boost 4000MHz
    EVGA CLC 280
    Corsair vengeance 16gb XMP 3200
    EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid
    Plextor m2 SSD 256Gb
    3x Sata SSD
    EVGA Supernova G3 650W
    2x 140mm fans in case front
     




    That is the GPU core temp. There is not a sensor for the 'liquid' or pump temp. So the first, thing to remove is overheating. Your GPU is operating within it normal temps. A smaller radiator dissipating 150 watts is going to have warm air coming off of it. That warm air IS coming of the rad means your pump is working and cooling the GPU. What your CPU AIO feels like, being much larger doesn't matter.  
    What you're describing is a GPU that is apparently unstable both while using a browser and while gaming.
    Did this just start or is this an ongoing issue? What else have you tried besides drivers? Have you reseated the board in the PCIe slot? Reseated the electrical connections on the board?

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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 12:03:04 (permalink)
    i just tested again in BF1 and World of Tanks
    after several minutes when GPU has ~57C i have game freeze and then DC
    maybe it is some how connected with 1440p resolution and 144MHz G-Sync
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 12:11:23 (permalink)
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    That is the GPU core temp. There is not a sensor for the 'liquid' or pump temp. So the first, thing to remove is overheating. Your GPU is operating within it normal temps. A smaller radiator dissipating 150 watts is going to have warm air coming off of it. That warm air IS coming of the rad means your pump is working and cooling the GPU. What your CPU AIO feels like, being much larger doesn't matter.  
    What you're describing is a GPU that is apparently unstable both while using a browser and while gaming.
    Did this just start or is this an ongoing issue? What else have you tried besides drivers? Have you reseated the board in the PCIe slot? Reseated the electrical connections on the board?

    back in a days i had Black screen while was playing edited video in Adobe Premiere, then i turned off, then on monitors and opened task manager and everything worked fine, only Premiere crashed
     
    yes i tried to reinstall GPU and cables
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 12:12:51 (permalink)
    also i don't have any OC for GPU, only default turbo boost
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 12:15:44 (permalink)
    i tried BF1 with DirectX 12 ON and got very low FPS, but not sure how low, because FRAPS didn't work with BF1 DirectX 12
     
     
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 12:44:49 (permalink)

    could it be that Default overclock is too high and unstable?
     
    this while i am playing Moonlight blade, which usually only 40C and usage up to 60%
    in this game i had game crash only when 1000 players were around me
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 13:15:08 (permalink)
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    could it be that Default overclock is too high and unstable?
     
    this while i am playing Moonlight blade, which usually only 40C and usage up to 60%
    in this game i had game crash only when 1000 players were around me




    Hmm, at 2025 mhz it would appear you DO have an overclock on your GPU...Perhaps running your GPU at stock clocks prior to making your next post would be a good idea.

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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 13:21:26 (permalink)
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    Hmm, at 2025 mhz it would appear you DO have an overclock on your GPU...Perhaps running your GPU at stock clocks prior to making your next post would be a good idea.



    GPU-Z shows that boost clock is 1860, but i am playing game and watching youtube video, then GPU-Z sensors tab shows 2025... i will uninstall EVGA Precision X, because i install it only today to check if it has liquid temp, maybe EVGA Precision X does double boost
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 13:45:24 (permalink)
    i uninstalled EVGA Precision X and restarted PC, then i ran Benchmark and looks like my stock Turbo boost is 2025

     
    how is it possible that my GPU goes over 1860, if i didn't change anything manually?
    could this GPU clock be the reason of Opera crashes(it stopped when turned off hardware acceleration), Premiere crash while playing video preview and DC in games, where temp is 57C+
    should i install EVGA Precision X and try to downgrade GPU clock or increase temp limit and power limit?
    or maybe my EVGA Supernova G3 650W can't handle Ryzen 2700x with CLC 280 and 1080 hybrid and 2x 140mm fans?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 13:53:23 (permalink)
    i just ran benchmark again and noticed that after ~1min of benchmark GPU clock droped from 2025 to 2012 and stayed at 2012 until the end
    before GPU clock drop there was ~0.5second freeze
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 14:07:08 (permalink)
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    i just ran benchmark again and noticed that after ~1min of benchmark GPU clock droped from 2025 to 2012 and stayed at 2012 until the end
    before GPU clock drop there was ~0.5second freeze




    Your GPU is still running at well over stock clocks.  It appears that somehow KBoost is enabled and forcing your GPU to run at 2025mhz until it hit a temp bin. 
     
     
    What did you do when you uninstalled Precision? Did you answer no to saving the files?
    After the uninstall is complete you must reboot. Once you've rebooted, try a DDU cleaning in safe mode driver and reinstall the driver. 
    Let me reiterate,  your GPU clocks at 2025mhz are well over default  clocks.


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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 14:40:31 (permalink)
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    Your GPU is still running at well over stock clocks.  It appears that somehow KBoost is enabled and forcing your GPU to run at 2025mhz until it hit a temp bin. 
     
    What did you do when you uninstalled Precision? Did you answer no to saving the files?
    After the uninstall is complete you must reboot. Once you've rebooted, try a DDU cleaning in safe mode driver and reinstall the driver. 
    Let me reiterate,  your GPU clocks at 2025mhz are well over default  clocks.



    i installed Precision and tried to click on K button, but got an error, then i uninstalled Precision, but same as in 1st time, when i uninstalled i didn't have anything about saving profile
    i did DDU in safe mode and installed drivers, but GPU clock is still 2025mhz
     
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 14:56:14 (permalink)
    i just remembered that in Nvidia cPanel i had Power management mode Optimal... i don't remember if i had it before DDU, but probably i didn't change to Adaptive, when i reinstalled my windows 10 ~2months ago
    i will check BF1 tomorrow again with Power management mode "Adaptive", maybe that is why game was suffering and DCed after 5-10mins, when hitted 57C
     
    before windows 10 i had Adaptive PMM and 6months ago i didn't had any DC in BF1 and WoT
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/19 15:16:09 (permalink)
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    i just remembered that in Nvidia cPanel i had Power management mode Optimal... i don't remember if i had it before DDU, but probably i didn't change to Adaptive, when i reinstalled my windows 10 ~2months ago
    i will check BF1 tomorrow again with Power management mode "Adaptive", maybe that is why game was suffering and DCed after 5-10mins, when hitted 57C
     
    before windows 10 i had Adaptive PMM and 6months ago i didn't had any DC in BF1 and WoT


    Your GPU should not be boosting to 2025mhz at stock settings. You need to fix that first.  Have you been rebooting between changes?

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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 01:43:56 (permalink)
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    Your GPU should not be boosting to 2025mhz at stock settings. You need to fix that first.  Have you been rebooting between changes?



    do you mean i need to install Precision, then restart PC, then uninstall, then restart PC, then restart in Safe mode and do DDU?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 02:10:19 (permalink)

    this is why i couldn't turn on kBoost, after i enabled it, my max boost was 2025mhz, then i disabled and max boost still was 2025mhz
    maybe kboost is hardcoded in bios or something like... i will try MSI Afterburner, i found on several forums that it is working better
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 02:53:51 (permalink)

    MSI afterburner doesn't have kboost
    i downloaded Nvidia Inspector and looks like my GPU has stock setting, but somehow it goes over 1860mhz up to 2025mhz if temp is lower than 40C, after 40C clock goes down to 2012 and after 50C clock is a bit below 2000mhz
     
    any1 has any idea how GPU can ignore max boost clock?
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 04:29:44 (permalink)
    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-X470-PRO/specifications/
    *1 The PCIe x16_3 slot shares bandwidth with PCIe x1_1 and PCIe x1_3
    *2 The M.2_2 socket shares PCIe clock with PCIe x1_1. When PCIe x1_1 or PCIe x1_3 is occupied, the M.2_2 socket can only support SATA mode. 
     
    maybe this is the reason of crashes?
    i have Plextor PX-256M9PeGN M.2 SSD 256Gb in M.2 socket
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 10:29:42 (permalink)
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    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-X470-PRO/specifications/
    *1 The PCIe x16_3 slot shares bandwidth with PCIe x1_1 and PCIe x1_3
    *2 The M.2_2 socket shares PCIe clock with PCIe x1_1. When PCIe x1_1 or PCIe x1_3 is occupied, the M.2_2 socket can only support SATA mode. 
     
    maybe this is the reason of crashes?
    i have Plextor PX-256M9PeGN M.2 SSD 256Gb in M.2 socket




    I've explained how to fix your issue. You need to properly remove Precision, properly uninstall the drivers and clean using DDU in safe mode then reinstall the drivers. It took almost 2 days for you to finally admit you DID ENABLE KBoost. Don't waste my time. The sure fire fix is you wipe out your Windows install and start over.

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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 11:13:27 (permalink)
    HeavyHemi
     
    I've explained how to fix your issue. You need to properly remove Precision, properly uninstall the drivers and clean using DDU in safe mode then reinstall the drivers. It took almost 2 days for you to finally admit you DID ENABLE KBoost. Don't waste my time. The sure fire fix is you wipe out your Windows install and start over.



    sorry for wasting your time, but i COULDN'T ENABLE kBoost, because Precision didn't let me do that... only when i closed yourphone.exe in taskmanager, then i ENABLED kboost and then i disabled it... 
    so that means that 1st time when i installed Precision, then PHYSICALLY COULDN'T ENABLE KBoost...
    any way i created ticket and will wait for EVGA official answer
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/20 16:27:15 (permalink)
    i have a gtx 1080 classified which is air cooled and overclocked to 2038mhz my card has Never ran hotter then 65 c. under full load  usually averages 59 to 61c i think the cooler is not working right
    i had a gtx 1070 hybrid and it averaged 45 to 50c. Even the temps your reporting should not be crashing your game. just my two cents

     
     
                               
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    Re: EVGA GTX 1080 hybrid real temp? 2019/01/21 01:01:43 (permalink)
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    i have a gtx 1080 classified which is air cooled and overclocked to 2038mhz my card has Never ran hotter then 65 c. under full load  usually averages 59 to 61c i think the cooler is not working right
    i had a gtx 1070 hybrid and it averaged 45 to 50c. Even the temps your reporting should not be crashing your game. just my two cents


    yes, if that is GPU temp, then 57C should be more than fine, i was thinking that it is liquid temp and GPU temp is higher
     
    now only question is why GPU clock goes up to 2025mhz, if kboost isn't enebled... i even closed all programs which didn't let me enable kboost, then enabled it and had both monitors turn off then on and kboost button was on, then i click ed on it again and disable it, then monitors went off and on again.... so i am sure that kboost is DISABLED, but GPU clock still goes up to 2025mhz
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