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Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)?

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2019/01/18 12:20:47 (permalink)
Hi--I am running an X58 EVGA 'E770 Classified 3' mobo with an i7 950 CPU. Recently I was getting a lot of game crashes and  thought I maybe had CPU issues. After much tinkering, I seem to have resolved the issue(s) without changing my CPU, but started checking on the availability of a replacement just in case. I came across many different models of the X58 Xeon models at pretty affordable prices online. So, I am considering to pick one of those up as a replacement to get a little performance boost on my aging system. I am considering three different Xeon models--x5690, x5677, and x5687. The first two are on the EVGA CPU compatibility list for my board, but the x5687 is not. They are all socket 1366. I am leaning towards the x5687 because of the current price vs performance. The x5690 would probably give the best performance (maybe) as it is 6 cores vs. the other two models being 4 core models, but it is about three three the price. Also, although it is only 4 cores, the x5687 is a faster 3.6 Ghz, compared to the 6 core x5690 @ 3.46 Ghz. The x5677 is a quad core @ 3.46 Ghz. So, I would probably like to buy the x5687. I am wondering if anyone has tried that processor on the 'E770 Classified 3' without any issues? I am thinking it should work, but would like to know for sure before buying. Not being on the compatibility list may just mean that EVGA never tested that configuration. Other boards in the EVGA X58 line needed a mod to support any of the Xeon (Westmere) processors, but the 'Classified 3' supported at least the Xeon models on the EVGA list (see here and scroll way down--https://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/legacy/) . This comp is being used for gaming, and general computing needs, and still holding up well. Thanks in advance for any help.
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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 12:23:59 (permalink)
    it should work but its better to get a 6 core version.5650/60 which are very cheap will get you 4ghz easy.

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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 13:35:14 (permalink)
    @ Nofearek9--Thanks. I have never overclocked this system. Kind of a shame in a way, as this board was a great overclocker in reviews. It's just that the whole OC process on the X58 just seemed a bit overly complicated. At this point I would be a bit concerned that the extra stress on the VRM might be a bit more risky on an 8 year old board. Even if I build a new system in coming months ( I have an EVGA X99 Micro 2 in storage--short on $$ to build it up) I would still like to keep the 'Classified 3' running as a backup system, and for general computing use as long as possible. Even with no OC it still performs very well--yesterday I was getting a steady 95 FPS in 'Metro Last Light Redux' (no dips at all) with EVERYTHING maxed except SSAA which was at 2X. So re the Xeons--not sure I would want to trade a Ghz. in stock speed to gain the two extra cores as most games do not take advantage of more than 4 cores anyways--but I will give that some thought. 
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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 15:23:20 (permalink)
    Get a w3680, it is an unlocked hexcore. Both the multiplier and buss are unlocked.
    Easy to OC, I ran one on my Classified3

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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 20:50:09 (permalink)
    Thanks Bill1024--I see that the W3680 is not on the supported list either (the W3580 is). So, as I thought some processors not on the list are compatible. Don't really know what I will get yet. I will perhaps decide over the weekend so I can get something ordered. In the running are the X5687, 5677, 5690, and now maybe the W3680 as well. Are those others unlocked as well? Not sure if I want to get into an OC with this older board, but who knows...it has been the most stable board I have run with no issues I couldn't fix. When I looked at guides on OCing this board it looked kinda complicated. Is it actually pretty easy? Thanks.
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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 22:16:11 (permalink)
    The w3680 and w3690 are both multipler and buss unlocked. Where the w3670 and x56xx, E56xx, are only buss unlocked.
    With the 3680,  most likely you can hit 4ghz  just by setting the multiplier to 40 and may not even need a CPU-v bump.
    If going higher a CPU-v bump and maybe an uncore CPUVVT bump and you're good to go.
     
    The w3680 is very much the same CPU as the i7-980x
    The hexcore CPUs are a smaller die than the quads, and run cooler than the quad core. 45 to 32nm if I remember right. You can google it
    They run cooler and have the extra cores.
    Keep the CPU-V below 1.35v and the CPU VVT to +150mv  (which is 1.35v)or less you will be ok
    Set uncore speed to 2x (or one click under,) the ram speed.
    Set NO or without Vdroop
     
    Same settings for the x56xx or e56xx CPUs, but you will be running a higher buss. 
    so take a x5660 CPU.  21 multiplier (will be 23 with turbo) x 175 buss = 4ghz    or 183 x 21 (23 turbo) = 4.2ghz
     
    It is not all that hard and several people on here who have had lots of x58 xeons
     
    Me, I likes the x5660, or the w3680  The x5660 with a 200 buss will be 4.6ghz. That is really pushing it.
    Most CPUs hit 4 - 4.4ghz fairly easy with a reasonable voltage. I found 4ghz was a nice cool speed for most things I did.
     

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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 22:24:01 (permalink)
    Keep in mind if you use the buss, when you raise the buss, you also increase the memory speed so you have to lower the memory setting.
    Then raise the buss watching memory speed.
    Been a while, I sold off my x58 boards so I can not look at the BIOS now.
    But it really was not all that hard to do. You can do it.

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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/18 22:30:28 (permalink)

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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/19 09:40:47 (permalink)
    A little bit to digest there in my presently slow moving state on a Saturday morning. I am going to check back here later today and read all that again. Are you giving all that would need too be adjusted bios-wise above, or are there other settings that would need to be changed as well? I have a few guides bookmarked (some from here). When I looked at them years ago I just did not want to bother memorizing all the voltages, etc. as this system was giving great performance as it was. I wanted this machine to last--no OC means less risk likely. I was using 580s back then, but have moved up to the 970s. And my 950 might be holding them back a bit at times.
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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/19 09:54:41 (permalink)
    I can see online that the 36xx models have similar speed/core count to the models I was looking at. So, if they are more flexible re what is unlocked, then that is likely the way to go. The 3690 is faster at 3.46Ghz, but is also more pricey online than the 3680. Any disadvantage getting the 3680 @ 3.33? If it can be pushed to 4Ghz with most of them, then there is always that option to get an improvement.
    Also, are those 36xx models from the Bloomfield line? I see they are not on the approved list--you said you ran an 3680 on E770 C3? There were at least two versions of that board--I had two anyways. The second was gotten through step-up, and the only difference (that I know of) was an additional molex connector power option for the PCIE slots, which shouldn't have any bearing on CPU compatibility. Could I safely assume the W3690 would be compatible as well? Thanks.
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    Re: Will Xeon x5687 work with EVGA E770 Classified 3 (X58)? 2019/01/20 17:22:27 (permalink)
    No advantage really, get the W3680. 
    I sold it I do not remember which classified3, it did have a molex for the GPU extra power.
    The EVGA SLI3, FTW3 and classified3 will take E,W and X series LGA 1366 CPUs both 4 and 6 core.
    The W36xx do not have to worry about the ram limitation issue either. X series had an issue with higher than either 8x or 10x, can't remember which
    I do believe the core name is Westmere. 
     
    You can look up the specs here. Type in the CPU you want to look up in the top Right corner
    http://www.cpu-world.com/...%20(BX80614X5660).html
     

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