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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 05:06:27 (permalink)
 
''Remember to that the Hybrid Kit that also supported the FE Cards did not come with the Memory Cold Plate''
 
and what ?    so if the 10 series kits  works on a 00 series then why don't evga have the 00 uunder compatible  list as well and back it ?  in a e mail and in a thread evga stated  will not  ???
 
 
 
 
''Cards with Pre-Installed Hybrid Coolers have the same Warranty of the card 3 or 5 years and this includes the Pump Unit.
Even Length: 10 years from date of purchase if you want''
 
lol... ya the next best card  as evga says .     you may send in yopur 600 buck hybeid and just get back a air cooled 1060 or what ever sc card back in there fair exchange   if yopu had warentee   . evga cant even replace 990 % of the time a hybrid for a hybrid .  you see that in the plenty of posts just from these forums .  
 
 
don't get me wrong I like this hybrid for what it does here fopr the cooling , but I would not ever buy a factory builrt card  ,  just buy the best air card  under the compatibility list of the kit  .   then if the pump goes bad send it in and go back to the air cool you got on hand  and leave evga holding there end on the pump units coverage  , not loose a great card over the pump and get a crap rma deal  or a referb 1070 air so to say . 
 
 like trhese cards were like 700 bucks in ther prime selling day  and get back a refgerb  300 buck 1070 air card ??  then a lower se at that   . some got better 1080 some did not ?   no consistency even from evga on the replacement card  .  
 
you take wht they offer  and most times on the money side you got hosed in the end . 
 
in the end I see  just how to better protect myself  in my next hybrid try  when this stuff occurs if unlucky  with the pump
 
 
good luck
 
 
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 05:12:46 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/250557/evga-releases-hybrid-kit-aio-liquid-coolers-for-its-rtx-20-series-graphics-cards
 
look at this 20 series the pumps coldplate is changed as well so it don't fit a 900 or a 10 series [flat like the corsair h55 ?]  . them 10 series guys best buy a pump kit to hold on to for any replacement real soon  or maybe facing this crap as the 900 guys are
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 10:35:37 (permalink)
Do you want me to open the 2 kits I have and take pics? I installed the ones I had open.
BCav and I both looked at just the pumps, they are the same. The rest of the kit is why they say is not compatible.
I bet you can make them work if you tried with some alteration, cut up the shroud, will void warranty I am sure.
Why would they build different pumps when the bolt pattern stays the same, the thickness of the shroud stays the same?
You don't have to believe us.  I KNOW I have spare pumps they will work on my 980Ti hybrid and my 10xx Hybrids.
Either the ones I upgraded or the ones I bought as a Hybrid. 
Just a shame I have the whole kit and not just the pump. I am sure someone out there would like to have the kit.
 
 
 

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 10:36:31 (permalink)
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EVGA uses asetek pumps in all their cpu clc's & gpu hybrid kits, so I would expect the 2080 ti kingpin to also use an asetek pump.


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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 11:18:18 (permalink)
The cold plate fit both the 980ti kit and the 1080TiFTW3 kit. The pumps are the same. Pics incoming 

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 11:22:23 (permalink)

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 11:23:18 (permalink)
The only difference I can tell is the color of the TIM. 
 

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 11:30:07 (permalink)
Thanks for the Info and Photos

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 11:37:28 (permalink)
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Thanks for the Info and Photos


No problem.
 
Just to be perfectly clear. The 1080Ti kit comes with the copper memory plate. The 980Ti kit does not.
The plate fits both pumps. To replace a 10xx with a 9xx kit you will have to reuse the copper plate.
To use the 10xx on a 9xx, you maybe able to take advantage of the plate and use it to help keep it cool.
That is just speculation about using the plate on a 9xx, but I am willing to bet it will work.
Just the pump and radiator assembly are the same and interchangeable. 
The rest of the kit may or may not be. I do not know.
 
So there is hope out there for 9xx hybrid owners to get a pump if they need one.
 

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 12:29:52 (permalink)
Couple of detailed questions.

The diameter of the copper and depth of that step is the same ?
 
Those black standoffs are same spacing & length ?
 
Hoses appear to be same length ?
 
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 12:46:49 (permalink)
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Couple of detailed questions.

The diameter of the copper and depth of that step is the same ?
 
Those black standoffs are same spacing & length ?
 
Hoses appear to be same length ?
 
Thanks




Yes the step is the same and the copper plate fits both pumps exactly like the other.
 
Yes the standoffs on the pump are the same. The GPU bolt pattern is the same. The pumps are the same in height width.
 
You know I did not stretch them out side by side, but I did pick both up and they seemed to hang the same
Also the boxes are the same length and both pumps took up about the same amount of room.
So with out opining the boxes again, I will say yes the same with 99% I am sure.
 
So I am 99.9999999% sure and willing to bet, these are the same exact pumps, but for the color of the TIM
 
You know for a small chunk of Swiss chocolate, I can open the boxes again and look.   
 
 
EDIT
The 4 holes, one in each cornner of the copper plate fit over the 4 posts, and it is installed on both pumps as you see in the picture.

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 13:16:35 (permalink)
nice pics , thanks . still not the same pump coldplate showen in the 10 series review   above   and I can see the 2 you pic'ed are not the same   there close but not , I got bad eyes but I can see it , the difference don't look to hinder the use [???]  ''The only difference I can tell is the color of the TIM. ''   a larger surface area
 
thing is why evga don't back it up  or list as a compatible unit ?   if there all the same then whats there problem ?
 
I gusee as long as you hide the fact you tried to use it on a 00 card alls good , right
 
in the end its like if they were evga just looks to stick a guy buying a new card  2ed they don't use them foir rma fix's  seems they done said today you will get a so called ''next best ''  [air ]
 
 maybe your pics are trustworthy  ??   maybe you jst use the same pumps with the different packages and info's ? 
 
so still in the end I'm at my own risk  if it was in fact misleading or incorrect .
 
this is evga baby  and they don't want to ,  out side of just sorry don't care in the end ,   if they did then whats the issue putting it under 900 series compatibility list ? 
 
 
anyway nice pic's thanks for doing that 
 
 
 
 
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 13:29:59 (permalink)
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nice pics , thanks . still not the same pump coldplate showen in the 10 series review   above   and I can see the 2 you pic'ed are not the same   there close but not , I got bad eyes but I can see it , the difference don't look to hinder the use [???]  ''The only difference I can tell is the color of the TIM. ''   a larger surface area
 
thing is why evga don't back it up  or list as a compatible unit ?   if there all the same then whats there problem ?
 
I gusee as long as you hide the fact you tried to use it on a 00 card alls good , right
 
in the end its like if they were evga just looks to stick a guy buying a new card  2ed they don't use them foir rma fix's  seems they done said today you will get a so called ''next best ''  [air ]
 
 maybe your pics are trustworthy  ??   maybe you jst use the same pumps with the different packages and info's ? 
 
so still in the end I'm at my own risk  if it was in fact misleading or incorrect .
 
this is evga baby  and they don't want to ,  out side of just sorry don't care in the end ,   if they did then whats the issue putting it under 900 series compatibility list ? 
 
 
anyway nice pic's thanks for doing that 
 
 



 
The surface area is the same, the copper plate show that. THEY ARE THE SAME, good god man. IN NY? come over to my house.
Trustworthy? Used same pumps with different package? Seriously, are you freaking kidding me?
You are free to believe what you want. But did you notice Jacob the tech did not dispute what I wrote about the pumps?
He just suggested to make a suggestion in the box. And I did.
 Sorry you will not be able to change out your pump on your 980Ti if it goes bad, not many 980 kits around.
I am out of here. Making my head hurt.
Good luck
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 14:38:43 (permalink)
I guess he cant  its not like they stick there fot in there mouth around here .   yup , he don't dispute it or acknowledge it  .  too much liability on evga part  to try to.
 
like I said if it was a correct part  why not show it as compatible in the units specs ?    must be something up just in that don't you think ?    see your not evga  and just spewing stuff like I am in the end , right ?
 
so see if evga will make a official statement there the same and back up being a compatible part then ?    as I said they all reay said !!NO!! here in a thread and to me in a e mail
 but then what you feel is best for you on your own money and time is  good for you  [ don't think I would not try it if in bad need  ]  I could get it on even if I had to use superglue and zip ties if I was desperate ,..lol..  then its not like corsair and a 50 buck part  that's a tad bit easyer to swallow  over evgas' what ? 130 bucks now  wow  170 ??    
 
 
now even looks like 20 series only  as well for a pump unit
 
https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=18&family=Cooling&chipset=GPU+HYBRID+Cooler
 
ya, you better hope yopu get a good long lasting card or your just going to be S.O.L   [history repeats itself  ]  my lesson is learned 
 
enjoy
 
 
 
 
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 14:43:46 (permalink)
Because the Kits are not compatible between Cards.
Maybe one day they will sale the Pump/Radiator Unit Separately in the Feature and then they could post the compatibly between cards.
And being a Public Forum and not the Office EVGA Support Forum not seeing a need for EVGA to chime in.
That is what a Public Forum is Member to Member.
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 14:47:24 (permalink)
I added some above post wile you posted yours
 
''Maybe one day they will sale the Pump/Radiator Unit Separately ''
 
FAT CHANCE      you just go buy there latest card  is how this works
 
 
''And being a Public Forum and not the Office EVGA Support Forum not seeing a need for EVGA to chime in '   but they do and and tell one guy this and another that    like this guy seen it as well
 
puddles post here for a example
''but it doesn't inspire confidence when Support/Tech are giving conflicting information; it's either Dynamic or it's constant.
 
what ever appeases    the guy with a issue   then its rma only in the end not support  '' just send it in '' 
 
 
don't get me wrong  my hybrid has been a good issue free card working as expected , but I can easy see what if as well and now  cant see doing one twice  [factory hybrid ]   if I do it again it will be a air card and add the kit   that way if the pump goes bad and evga  is like this with them  I do hold the stock cooler to put back on to keep my card going   not dealing with this crap over a pump unit 
 
that's all
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 14:58:40 (permalink)
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Because the Kits are not compatible between Cards.
Maybe one day they will sale the Pump/Radiator Unit Separately in the Feature and then they could post the compatibly between cards.
And being a Public Forum and not the Office EVGA Support Forum not seeing a need for EVGA to chime in.
That is what a Public Forum is Member to Member.




Thats is exactly right, the whole kit is not compatible between cards. I never said it was.
Only thing I am saying is the pump and radiator is the same part, for sure. And they are interchangeable 

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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 15:08:19 (permalink)
lol.. I keep editing  when your posting . sorry
 
so big deal all the parts may not work    that like a cpu cooler with parts for intel chips and amd chips in the box  ??    you use whats needed    , so how is this pump unit different in that  ?    if all you need is the pump unit then that's all you need    , see evga will not even acknowledge that much  . 
 
if just the punp unit is all that works in the whole box of crap I'm good with that  for retail price  if it backed uop and warranted   the same as if I used it on a 10 series or 20 series   [ like I seen looks like the 10 series guys are done for as well now  ]   20 series only units now  [ maybe in a different part of the evga store I did not notice for 10 seriestuff ? ]
 
 
 
hers a old thread I put this to
 
https://forums.evga.com/hybrid-cooler-kit-m2518228.aspx
 
the evga response was a tip toe around back then   and why I bring this up in later posts .       then like I said and it seems  the 10 series guys are facing this as well / sol on a new pump  if no warrantee or declined rma / what ever
 
ok I'm done crying for now  . thanks for all input  it all helps good or bad 
 
 
 
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Re: GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Overheating problem again 2018/12/12 15:44:52 (permalink)
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lol.. I keep editing  when your posting . sorry
hers a old thread I put this to
https://forums.evga.com/hybrid-cooler-kit-m2518228.aspx
the evga response was a tip toe around back then   and why I bring this up in later posts .       then like I said and it seems  the 10 series guys are facing this as well / sol on a new pump  if no warrantee or declined rma / what ever

thanks for your time here  I hate to come off as a stick in the mud , but sometimes I feel I have to 
 
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bottom line was I just wanted to know why the hybrid kit sold now is just for 10 series    like I look it over  and did not see why it should still not fit a 900 card as before   I figured it matbe the included shroud  and factory oem paste on the face  ?????    if it will  then evga should foot note that   as all will work but shroud may be different for 900 cards ...


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