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2018/11/13 13:16:55 (permalink)
No one is hyped for this cpu? Sure it’s not 20+ cores or something insane, but it offers 8 cores, hardware fixes to the vulnerabilities, and lastly 44 pcie lanes that you don’t have to spend 1,000$ on. Half the price 589$! What do x299 owners think of this since some of you already have your build done. Is it worth it compared to a 7940X? I almost got for 1,000$? Besides 8core vs 14 core differences
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/13 19:57:14 (permalink)
    Nope!

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/14 07:36:44 (permalink)
    I would have bought this over my 7820X had it been available back then.  Especially for the added pcie lanes (28 vs 44).  But at this point, I personally don't see a need to upgrade.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/14 10:07:25 (permalink)
    yeah I was looking to get this but with the price of it just now think I will wait a bit longer

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/14 12:55:00 (permalink)
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    No one is hyped for this cpu?

    Nope, as my current cpu can game just as good as the 9800x can when playing at 4k. 
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/15 07:02:22 (permalink)
    In 4K gaming cpu ain't that important anymore as you will end up in GPU bottleneck anyway.
     
    As for 9800X this also raised by eyebrowns as it is actually cheaper than 9900K in the stores right now.
    However HEDT is using mesh which performs much worse in gaming than consumer core i7/i9. I also checked 9900K vs 8700K and barely any difference at all in 1440p gaming so can't see any justification at all to swap 8700K to 9900K or 9800X for that matter. 
    9800X of course gives more lanes so one can use full 16 lanes on video card when also using M2 SSD in parallel but the mesh architecture lower perf won't be compensated enough by higher pci-e bandwidth on 2080Ti.


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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/15 20:40:12 (permalink)
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    In 4K gaming cpu ain't that important anymore as you will end up in GPU bottleneck anyway.
     
    As for 9800X this also raised by eyebrowns as it is actually cheaper than 9900K in the stores right now.
    However HEDT is using mesh which performs much worse in gaming than consumer core i7/i9. I also checked 9900K vs 8700K and barely any difference at all in 1440p gaming so can't see any justification at all to swap 8700K to 9900K or 9800X for that matter. 
    9800X of course gives more lanes so one can use full 16 lanes on video card when also using M2 SSD in parallel but the mesh architecture lower perf won't be compensated enough by higher pci-e bandwidth on 2080Ti.




    If I'm following you right, due to the mesh architecture you're saying a 9900k with 2 x GPUs @ 8x/8x would outperform a 9800X with 2 x GPUs @ 16x/16x, with the assumption that the 9900k is running at a higher clock speed than the 9800X? I've been desperately trying to get more information on the pros and cons of these two setups for my in progress build.

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/16 00:07:28 (permalink)
    I guess that 9900K would outperform even with the clocks would be the same.
     
    No matter how hard I try to justify myself to get HEDT platform then conclusion is that consumer grade 9900K is better for gaming in every aspect. 
    Only real benefit for HEDT is 44 lanes if you need it.


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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/16 05:52:40 (permalink)
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    I would have bought this over my 7820X had it been available back then.  Especially for the added pcie lanes (28 vs 44).  But at this point, I personally don't see a need to upgrade.




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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/16 07:32:15 (permalink)
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    No one is hyped for this cpu? Sure it’s not 20+ cores or something insane, but it offers 8 cores, hardware fixes to the vulnerabilities, and lastly 44 pcie lanes that you don’t have to spend 1,000$ on. Half the price 589$! What do x299 owners think of this since some of you already have your build done. Is it worth it compared to a 7940X? I almost got for 1,000$? Besides 8core vs 14 core differences

    When come down to CPU I am always get the best, according to my needs and budget. 
    post edited by PINKTULIP - 2018/12/05 18:40:26

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/16 10:33:36 (permalink)
    I've been looking into the refresh a little, and I am leaning towards holding onto my 7820X as well. It doesn't seem to be worth the extra money for me. I've already delid my CPU and it runs so well already. There is little reason for me to move to a new CPU aside from PCI lanes, but I don't think the ~$1,000 is worth it for my build.
     
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/16 18:39:55 (permalink)
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    I've been looking into the refresh a little, and I am leaning towards holding onto my 7820X as well. It doesn't seem to be worth the extra money for me. I've already delid my CPU and it runs so well already. There is little reason for me to move to a new CPU aside from PCI lanes, but I don't think the ~$1,000 is worth it for my build.
     
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/17 13:05:10 (permalink)
    I see some websites in the UK listing the i7-9800X as a pre-order. Looks like stock will be delayed until 6th December
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/17 13:24:23 (permalink)
    With Intel having so many troubles CPU prices are a bit higher then they should be and that will continue for a while. If you want to save cash for that CPU wait a couple of months. But if you have to have it now...game on.

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/17 17:24:23 (permalink)
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    With Intel having so many troubles CPU prices are a bit higher then they should be and that will continue for a while. If you want to save cash for that CPU wait a couple of months. But if you have to have it now...game on.




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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/19 23:51:09 (permalink)
    9800X is 589. I already pre ordered. It’s practically the same as the 9900K just with more pcie lanes which I need at 1440P 165Hz. I lose 20% performance with not enough lanes. I just think it’s finally a great buy compared to buying a 10 core just for the lanes at double the price
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/20 20:18:06 (permalink)
    That’s what I’m saying. Who the hell needs 10+ cores for gaming... 8 core 16 threads, plus 4.8Ghz oc sounds comfy to me with 16 lanes for each 1080TI
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/21 09:15:01 (permalink)
    "Who the hell needs 10+ cores for gaming" *BF5
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/21 10:24:08 (permalink)
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    That’s what I’m saying. Who the hell needs 10+ cores for gaming... 8 core 16 threads, plus 4.8Ghz oc sounds comfy to me with 16 lanes for each 1080TI


    Who the hell needs to computer game at all?

    Me, that's the answer.
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/11/21 10:39:39 (permalink)
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    That’s what I’m saying. Who the hell needs 10+ cores for gaming... 8 core 16 threads, plus 4.8Ghz oc sounds comfy to me with 16 lanes for each 1080TI


    Who the hell needs to computer game at all?

    Me, that's the answer.

    No since in you posting here then is there
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/05 09:51:01 (permalink)
    Explain how the mesh design is different from main stream designs?
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/05 18:40:28 (permalink)
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    "Who the hell needs 10+ cores for gaming" *BF5




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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/06 12:50:03 (permalink)
    8 core 16 threads is enough for now even with dx12 and oc it to 4.8Ghz. Then you should be all set
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/06 13:58:56 (permalink)
    I wish there was a review of the 9800X so we could see how it performs compared to the 9900K. The 9800X is tempting because it doesn’t cost that much more than a 9900K and you get 44 PCIe lanes versus 9900K’s 16 lanes. Here in Canada the 9900K is $699 and the 9800X is $789.

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/06 17:46:06 (permalink)
    im going with my 7960x




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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/07 11:52:37 (permalink)

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/07 12:08:42 (permalink)
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    In stock now at NewEgg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117961
     




    I showed on my screen you had posted 15min before I clicked the link, by then it was shown as out of stock to me
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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/07 13:34:55 (permalink)
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    In stock now at NewEgg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117961
     


    Shows in stock on Newegg Canada although it ships from the U.S.

    Pretty tempting at $799 compared to the 9900K at $699 especially considering the X299 Dark can be found for about $460 here. One thing is the gaming performance of the 9800X won’t be quite as good as the 9900K, but I would imagine the 9800X can be overclocked a bit higher than the 7800X due to the solder.

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    Re: X299 9800X 2018/12/07 13:37:17 (permalink)
    Back in stock on Newegg US.

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