https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/10/19/bloomberg-china-surveillance-dan-coats-director-national-intelligence/

Hopefully the self-defeating anti-China, and anti-trade rhetoric in general, will calm down from full-hysteria mode. No one wins with tariffs.

I kind of wondered about the story at the start since it would be hard to make the chips and sneak then in without being noticed unless the company was fully working with China.

I wouldn't rely on Dan coats telling us the truth that there are no spy chips - he couldn't tell us 
if he did then the US govt and all companies would be even more prime for hacking 
a) just because people know there is a backdoor means more people will try 
b) more people will try to get the backdoor china has in it possession
c) china would hack and get all the info now before the boards and backdoors are removed
 
so basically "YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU BEEN COMPROMISED AND STILL ARE"...lol
otherwise it gets worse and consumer confidence and govt confidence goes down as well
 
this only affects govt and Corporate servers - the sort of thing China would would to spy on for stealing Intellectual property
 
bloomberg found enough evidence to say the chinese have something - were that be on every board or every machine - might be a selected targets
 
Bloomberg said that its sources were key to its decision to run the Chinese spy chip story, the site writing that ’17 people confirmed the manipulation of Supermicro’s hardware and other elements of the attacks
 
The companies’ denials are countered by six current and former senior national security officials, who—in conversations that began during the Obama administration and continued under the Trump administration—detailed the discovery of the chips and the government’s investigation. One of those officials and two people inside AWS provided extensive information on how the attack played out at Elemental and Amazon; the official and one of the insiders also described Amazon’s cooperation with the government investigation.
 
 In addition to the three Apple insiders, four of the six U.S. officials confirmed that Apple was a victim. In all, 17 people confirmed the manipulation of Supermicro’s hardware and other elements of the attacks. The sources were granted anonymity because of the sensitive, and in some cases classified, nature of the information.
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies 

This kind of efforts worth nothing.
Only completely moving of production and factories on American soil of all brands.
That would be VERY painful first 5 years, but EXTREMELY effective after 5 years for Western Economy, Products Quality, Protection of Environment and Planet Earth. I mean globally. 
 
Worse fear for Russia and China is Western Globalism and Unity.
To America and Europe close self like Fortress and pick countries who will cooperate with them and completely close all doors for refuges.
China and Russia profit from politic influence on each of countries alone, one by one and because of that spread conspiracy theories and non sense about corporations, globalism, etc... I didn't found single video clip how many people feed Western Companies in China.
Only about suicide and bad conditions, why China not give them better or Russia. 
In Russia you think they protect environment during draining oil and gas... It's same as before 50 years, not respect any law or measure who demand to invest in protection of environment and workers. Only is important to compensate Western sanction draining 3 times more.
 
But measures of American government are not effective with small impact and if you do something do that properly.
Left 2.000.000 Chinese without jobs, hungry, in Putin hands, produce better more quality more expensive, repairable products than Asia and for 10 years they will beg you. They have nothing, they can't build computer without American companies and patents and projects.
For 5 years they would stay vulnerable to attacks of much powerful computers.  Most companies for production chips, data storage, memories, processors are American, still. Many American companies hungry of money build Asian empires when they decide to send production and employ workers there. 

MasterMiner
Until that changes, tariffs are an unmitigated evil in my book.

People bandy around words and phrases in such a manner that people no longer know what they truly mean. This is not a situation of "unmitigated evil" by any stretch of the imagination. People abuse the English language to the point of diluting the meaning and credibility of everything said anymore. One wonders why people don't take anything said seriously anymore? It's because people will say anything in an opinion and expect people to subscribe to it, because it might pull some emotional puppet strings of the audience.

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MasterMiner
Until that changes, tariffs are an unmitigated evil in my book.

People bandy around words and phrases in such a manner that people no longer know what they truly mean. This is not a situation of "unmitigated evil" by any stretch of the imagination. People abuse the English language to the point of diluting the meaning and credibility of everything said anymore. One wonders why people don't take anything said seriously anymore? It's because people will say anything in an opinion and expect people to subscribe to it, because it might pull some emotional puppet strings of the audience.

I’ll help you out. The word you’re looking for is: semantics.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/semantics

That cuts down 2 paragraphs right there.

*facepalm

I guarantee you that if these chips existed, there would be any number of photos of them on the internet by now, hardware tear-downs and logic analyzer and network-sniffer probing exposing how they worked. Lots of these servers and blades in existence and lots of used ones on eBay. 
 
It is a great, salacious story, created what Bloomberg wanted, which is lots of hits on their website. I think someone else wanted to sink SuperMicro stock, which was already sinking and de-listed from accounting issues.