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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/10/20 16:02:33
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Oh yeah. Totally agree with you. That was the first thing that I cynically thought watching his video. But he would not be making this up. But no doubt he is kinda happy in that he can keep selling his after market enthusiast parts and pre-binned CPUs at big mark ups.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/10/26 04:17:06
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Just wondering if theres any word on the new BIOS for the X299 boards for Basin Falls CPU's?
I already have the EVGA X299 FTW-K with 7800X for my home server, and I want to upgrade my gaming PC from EVGA Z77 FTW to another EVGA X299 FTW-K with 9800X which have just released here for pre-order.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/10/26 10:39:31
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☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2018/11/09 10:13:22
I believe that the current BIOS available for each board should work fine with the new CPU's, since they use the same architecture. However, we are adding new BIOS updates today to improve Overclocking with the new CPUs, and a nice surprise for X299 Micro and X299 FTW owners.... Edit: Might be Monday. Should be today.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/10/26 23:21:00
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thats awesome news, thanks Lee :)
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/02 07:15:17
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hello guys, i'm sorry about my english , but today I could not resist the price 240 $  bought without thinking much. so now thinking better I noticed a small problem that I need to update the bios,  by the waya I want to buy the new i9 9800x, I ask  : is there any way to update bios with the new cpu installed? or the system will not give video signal to enter the screen bios ?? really would not like to buy i7 7820x 28 lanes :( thankyou for the answarre 
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/02 09:36:20
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Virtually every credible reviewer has mentioned fast 9900K with unexpectedly high die temperatures. So I don't know what you are trying to say.
I meant more business for Der8auer's, meant more sales, more deliding tools, meant more business more Silicon Lottery or Business offer that kind of services!!! CPU that TB to 5.0Ghz expected to be little hot!!!
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/02 09:58:43
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hello guys, i'm sorry about my english , but today I could not resist the price 240 $ bought without thinking much.
so now thinking better I noticed a small problem that I need to update the bios,
by the waya I want to buy the new i9 9800x, I ask : is there any way to update bios with the new cpu installed? or the system will not give video signal to enter the screen bios ??
really would not like to buy i7 7820x 28 lanes :(
thankyou for the answarre
Firstly, congratulations on your Dark motherboard: it really is a quality bit of kit! Second, nice price. Like you I managed to get it during a sale. Third, earlier (in this thread I believe) an EVGA tech said that Basin Falls CPUs (like the 9800X you are looking to get) would boot in the Dark on the older bios, but be limited in their overclocking. As they will boot then you can enter the old bios and update to the newest bios and you will be good to go. Like baconaugh suggested, if this does not work then EVGA will just be able to send you a replacement bios chip, but that takes time which hopefully will be unnecessary. Have fun.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/06 12:15:57
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plz don't tell me the sale for that mobo ended
i was watching every day for it's price to go down and i had a horrible week that got in the way (work and what not)
here's to hoping! i didn't go check yet! will now though!
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/09 10:00:27
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Do you guys think it's worth waiting for the 9xxx x? I'm actually considering a 7920x for my board mostly because of the price 1276$ since the 9920x will be like 1519$ here in sweden..
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/09 10:15:01
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Do you guys think it's worth waiting for the 9xxx x? I'm actually considering a 7920x for my board mostly because of the price 1276$ since the 9920x will be like 1519$ here in sweden..
Value of the more expensive CPU comes down to; what are you going to do with that PC
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/09 10:32:43
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bcavnaugh
You may have to Open a Support Ticket on your motherboard for a new Bios Chip.
Remember and I got the Extended Warranty as well on mine for a total of 5 Years.
thank you,  bcavnaugh
Now! $269.99
nice price! now i'm waiting for the /www.proshop.se/CPU/Intel-Core-i7-9800X-Skylake-X-Refresh-CPU-38-GHz-Intel-LGA2066-8-kaernor-Intel-Boxed/2685105 
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
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Do you guys think it's worth waiting for the 9xxx x? I'm actually considering a 7920x for my board mostly because of the price 1276$ since the 9920x will be like 1519$ here in sweden..
Value of the more expensive CPU comes down to; what are you going to do with that PC
Well everything, benching, gaming, rendering. But mostely I need a multitask monster with pcie lanes.. So basically I need the fastest cpu I can afford and that is right now the 7920x, But at the time the 9920x comes out I will be abel to afford it but if it's just 5% faster and soldered it's not going to justify the 240 ish $ difference.. or will it?
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/09 10:42:47
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bcavnaugh
You may have to Open a Support Ticket on your motherboard for a new Bios Chip.
Remember and I got the Extended Warranty as well on mine for a total of 5 Years.
thank you,
bcavnaugh
Now! $269.99
nice price! now i'm waiting for the /www.proshop.se/CPU/Intel-Core-i7-9800X-Skylake-X-Refresh-CPU-38-GHz-Intel-LGA2066-8-kaernor-Intel-Boxed/2685105
You are Welcome! All I can say is the one I just got from the eBay Store had 2.07. But they may have gotten a New Batch.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/10 01:19:40
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Well everything, benching, gaming, rendering. But mostely I need a multitask monster with pcie lanes.. So basically I need the fastest cpu I can afford and that is right now the 7920x, But at the time the 9920x comes out I will be abel to afford it but if it's just 5% faster and soldered it's not going to justify the 240 ish $ difference.. or will it?
$240 difference... hmm... Really the answer to that depends on your financial situation and price sensitivity. Everyone's perspective on that will vary slightly. The previous answer (the one that says "depends on what you use it for") is a good point. You say you need PCIe lanes: well there are no differences between the two CPUs you mention to justify $240 in that regard. You mention multicore monster: the extra cache and slight core speed bump will make the new chip slightly faster at the multicore stuff. $240 worth? Hmm. One thing we don't know is if Basin Fall's solder TIM works well, or if there are thermal issues like we see on 9900K. To me that would be the deciding factor. If tests show the new TIM to work well then I would spend the extra on the new CPU. Otherwise I would save the money and go SL-X.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/10 04:18:26
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Well everything, benching, gaming, rendering. But mostely I need a multitask monster with pcie lanes.. So basically I need the fastest cpu I can afford and that is right now the 7920x, But at the time the 9920x comes out I will be abel to afford it but if it's just 5% faster and soldered it's not going to justify the 240 ish $ difference.. or will it?
$240 difference... hmm...
Really the answer to that depends on your financial situation and price sensitivity. Everyone's perspective on that will vary slightly.
The previous answer (the one that says "depends on what you use it for") is a good point. You say you need PCIe lanes: well there are no differences between the two CPUs you mention to justify $240 in that regard. You mention multicore monster: the extra cache and slight core speed bump will make the new chip slightly faster at the multicore stuff. $240 worth? Hmm.
One thing we don't know is if Basin Fall's solder TIM works well, or if there are thermal issues like we see on 9900K. To me that would be the deciding factor. If tests show the new TIM to work well then I would spend the extra on the new CPU. Otherwise I would save the money and go SL-X.
Thank you for your input and thought, I am of course going to overclock it as high as it will go wather it's a cooling factor or a silicon factor that limits me from going any higher. I will push it to the edge so it might just comes down to which I'm abel to cool in a more affective way or which of the two who has the best silicone.. I also have a deal now on a refurbish 7900x at 889$ but idk.. think I'll need those two extra cores later on.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/10 07:42:33
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Well everything, benching, gaming, rendering. But mostely I need a multitask monster with pcie lanes.. So basically I need the fastest cpu I can afford and that is right now the 7920x, But at the time the 9920x comes out I will be abel to afford it but if it's just 5% faster and soldered it's not going to justify the 240 ish $ difference.. or will it?
$240 difference... hmm...
Really the answer to that depends on your financial situation and price sensitivity. Everyone's perspective on that will vary slightly.
The previous answer (the one that says "depends on what you use it for") is a good point. You say you need PCIe lanes: well there are no differences between the two CPUs you mention to justify $240 in that regard. You mention multicore monster: the extra cache and slight core speed bump will make the new chip slightly faster at the multicore stuff. $240 worth? Hmm.
One thing we don't know is if Basin Fall's solder TIM works well, or if there are thermal issues like we see on 9900K. To me that would be the deciding factor. If tests show the new TIM to work well then I would spend the extra on the new CPU. Otherwise I would save the money and go SL-X.
Thank you for your input and thought, I am of course going to overclock it as high as it will go wather it's a cooling factor or a silicon factor that limits me from going any higher. I will push it to the edge so it might just comes down to which I'm abel to cool in a more affective way or which of the two who has the best silicone.. I also have a deal now on a refurbish 7900x at 889$ but idk.. think I'll need those two extra cores later on.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/10 07:44:21
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plz don't tell me the sale for that mobo ended
i was watching every day for it's price to go down and i had a horrible week that got in the way (work and what not)
here's to hoping! i didn't go check yet! will now though!
Don't watch it everyday!!when price is already down, I paid $449 for mine...……... 
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/10 07:45:12
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/10 10:00:31
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Well everything, benching, gaming, rendering. But mostely I need a multitask monster with pcie lanes.. So basically I need the fastest cpu I can afford and that is right now the 7920x, But at the time the 9920x comes out I will be abel to afford it but if it's just 5% faster and soldered it's not going to justify the 240 ish $ difference.. or will it?
$240 difference... hmm...
Really the answer to that depends on your financial situation and price sensitivity. Everyone's perspective on that will vary slightly.
The previous answer (the one that says "depends on what you use it for") is a good point. You say you need PCIe lanes: well there are no differences between the two CPUs you mention to justify $240 in that regard. You mention multicore monster: the extra cache and slight core speed bump will make the new chip slightly faster at the multicore stuff. $240 worth? Hmm.
One thing we don't know is if Basin Fall's solder TIM works well, or if there are thermal issues like we see on 9900K. To me that would be the deciding factor. If tests show the new TIM to work well then I would spend the extra on the new CPU. Otherwise I would save the money and go SL-X.
Thank you for your input and thought, I am of course going to overclock it as high as it will go wather it's a cooling factor or a silicon factor that limits me from going any higher. I will push it to the edge so it might just comes down to which I'm abel to cool in a more affective way or which of the two who has the best silicone.. I also have a deal now on a refurbish 7900x at 889$ but idk.. think I'll need those two extra cores later on.
Delid it before you even try to OC regardless of the Cooler!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't planing on not deliding ;)
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/12 22:53:14
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/13402/intel-basin-falls-refresh-core-i9-9980xe
No one thinks that i7-9800X is a drool fest? 44 pcie lanes and 8 cores for ALMOST half the price of the 10 core models??? I was just about to hit buy now for the i9-7940X for 1,000$ but then realized I would have to buy a 95$ delid kit from de8auer
So did I make the right choice waiting for the 9800X? Also when is the release date?
Big question though I just ordered a x299 dark from EVGA directly. So will it support it out the box with new micro code or will I have to go get a another cpu to flash? I don’t have any flashing tools with me also. Only a usb
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
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No one thinks that i7-9800X is a drool fest? 44 pcie lanes and 8 cores for ALMOST half the price of the 10 core models??? I was just about to hit buy now for the i9-7940X for 1,000$ but then realized I would have to buy a 95$ delid kit from de8auer
So did I make the right choice waiting for the 9800X? Also when is the release date?
Big question though I just ordered a x299 dark from EVGA directly. So will it support it out the box with new micro code or will I have to go get a another cpu to flash? I don’t have any flashing tools with me also. Only a usb
Haha i'm also waiting for the 9800x, IMHO anyone who bought the 9900k is braindead! I mean seriously if you're paying 500$ for a cpu then you will most likely go with sli and if you're going with sli then you will obviously get an rtx 2080 or 2080 ti and they will get bottlenecked with the x8/x8 configuration and lose out on 16% of performance thanks to the 16 lanes provided from the 9900k Which is why the 9800x is the better option I think the next intel z470 cpu's should at least have 36 lanes from the cpu instead of the measly 16
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/13 05:20:53
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https://www.anandtech.com...refresh-core-i9-9980xe
No one thinks that i7-9800X is a drool fest? 44 pcie lanes and 8 cores for ALMOST half the price of the 10 core models??? I was just about to hit buy now for the i9-7940X for 1,000$ but then realized I would have to buy a 95$ delid kit from de8auer
So did I make the right choice waiting for the 9800X? Also when is the release date?
Big question though I just ordered a x299 dark from EVGA directly. So will it support it out the box with new micro code or will I have to go get a another cpu to flash? I don’t have any flashing tools with me also. Only a usb
The 9900K benefited a good bit from delidding, and die sanding. I doubt the 9800X and up will be any different in that respect, but I'm sure de8auer will do another analysis.
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Re: BIOS update for the new i7-9800X and i9-9980XE
2018/11/13 05:35:44
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Well everything, benching, gaming, rendering. But mostely I need a multitask monster with pcie lanes.. So basically I need the fastest cpu I can afford and that is right now the 7920x, But at the time the 9920x comes out I will be abel to afford it but if it's just 5% faster and soldered it's not going to justify the 240 ish $ difference.. or will it?
$240 difference... hmm...
Really the answer to that depends on your financial situation and price sensitivity. Everyone's perspective on that will vary slightly.
The previous answer (the one that says "depends on what you use it for") is a good point. You say you need PCIe lanes: well there are no differences between the two CPUs you mention to justify $240 in that regard. You mention multicore monster: the extra cache and slight core speed bump will make the new chip slightly faster at the multicore stuff. $240 worth? Hmm.
One thing we don't know is if Basin Fall's solder TIM works well, or if there are thermal issues like we see on 9900K. To me that would be the deciding factor. If tests show the new TIM to work well then I would spend the extra on the new CPU. Otherwise I would save the money and go SL-X.
Thank you for your input and thought, I am of course going to overclock it as high as it will go wather it's a cooling factor or a silicon factor that limits me from going any higher. I will push it to the edge so it might just comes down to which I'm abel to cool in a more affective way or which of the two who has the best silicone.. I also have a deal now on a refurbish 7900x at 889$ but idk.. think I'll need those two extra cores later on.
Delid it before you even try to OC regardless of the Cooler!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't planing on not deliding ;)
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Why does it say in Intel’s website it’s launched but not out anywhere?
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Why does it say in Intel’s website it’s launched but not out anywhere?
Paper launch?
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its out in the UK that link I posted if from Scan
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