D3SOL4TE
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Hopefully someone here can shed some light.
I've just upgraded my boot drive from a Samsung 850 EVO SSD (500GB) to a Samsung 970 NVMe (250GB) but windows task manager is showing my last BIOS time as being 15.5 seconds where as with the 850 EVO it was around 11 seconds?
This is after doing a clean install of Windows 10. I'm running the latest firmware for both drives as well as the latest BIOS for my Maximus X Hero.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 05:59:57
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Did you change any settings for fast boot or name support in the bios? The extra few seconds could be the bios trying to decide what to load now that you moved to name.
Also, did you do a secure erase of the old ssd to remove any boot loader that may distract the initialization process for the name?
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D3SOL4TE
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 06:23:33
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The only thing I changed in the BIOS was the setting "M.2_2 PCIe Bandwidth Configuration:[X2][X4]" from x2 to x4. I didn't secure erase the 850 EVO no I just quick formatted it in disk management.
Prior to posting here I did search google for an answer, while I was unable to find an answer I did read that even 10+ seconds is on the long side even for a standard SSD is this accurate?
P.S. By "Secure Erase" do you mean the option in Samsung Magician?
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 06:27:29
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Secure erase is in the bios, under the advanced options if I am not mistaken. If you formatted the old drive, that should have removed the boot loader from the drive though.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 06:32:04
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 06:42:21
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 06:45:14
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hmm...What motherboard are you using? Did I miss your system info??
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 06:47:36
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hmm...What motherboard are you using? Did I miss your system info??
Asus Rog Maximus X Hero.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 07:25:10
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Was looking around ..found a place where it talks about setting the Gen of the NVMe drive somewhere...changing it from Auto to Gen 3...and making sure the memory is set to the correct speed...
Personally not sure why it would be slower other than some bios settings.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 07:26:44
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I don't know if these images of my BIOS settings help shed any light or if there are any other relevant settings in the BIOS?   *Disregard the SanDisk in the second image I only plugged it in to save the screenshots.
post edited by D3SOL4TE - 2018/09/24 07:32:17
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 07:33:31
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transdogmifier
Was looking around ..found a place where it talks about setting the Gen of the NVMe drive somewhere...changing it from Auto to Gen 3...and making sure the memory is set to the correct speed...
Personally not sure why it would be slower other than some bios settings.
What do you mean by memory to the correct speed? I'm currently just using the xmp profile.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 07:34:07
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transdogmifier
Was looking around ..found a place where it talks about setting the Gen of the NVMe drive somewhere...changing it from Auto to Gen 3...and making sure the memory is set to the correct speed...
Personally not sure why it would be slower other than some bios settings.
What do you mean by memory to the correct speed? I'm currently just using the xmp profile.
That should be fine for memory...
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 07:54:57
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transdogmifier
Was looking around ..found a place where it talks about setting the Gen of the NVMe drive somewhere...changing it from Auto to Gen 3...and making sure the memory is set to the correct speed...
Personally not sure why it would be slower other than some bios settings.
You mean something like this?  Also are any of these settings relevant? 
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 08:09:44
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Well changing the PCIe speed from [Auto] to [Gen3] made no difference.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/24 11:27:28
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☄ Helpfulby D3SOL4TE 2018/09/25 02:43:28
The “Last BIOS time” figure is the amount of time it took for your computer's BIOS (or, more accurately, your computer's UEFI firmware) to initialize your hardware before it begins booting Windows when you start your computer.
Looks like the mgx controller on the 850 evo works better with your motherboards bios than the 970 evo's phoenix controller.
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/25 02:53:57
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Sajin
The “Last BIOS time” figure is the amount of time it took for your computer's BIOS (or, more accurately, your computer's UEFI firmware) to initialize your hardware before it begins booting Windows when you start your computer.
Looks like the mgx controller on the 850 evo works better with your motherboards bios than the 970 evo's phoenix controller.
While that doesn't resolve the issue atleast I have a possible cause so thanks, hopefully a future BIOS update will improve it. Just a final thought would disabling the CSM improve things?
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Re: Longer boot time with NVMe than SSD?
2018/09/25 11:30:53
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D3SOL4TE
Sajin
The “Last BIOS time” figure is the amount of time it took for your computer's BIOS (or, more accurately, your computer's UEFI firmware) to initialize your hardware before it begins booting Windows when you start your computer.
Looks like the mgx controller on the 850 evo works better with your motherboards bios than the 970 evo's phoenix controller.
While that doesn't resolve the issue atleast I have a possible cause so thanks, hopefully a future BIOS update will improve it.
Just a final thought would disabling the CSM improve things?
Possibly.
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