kram36

stalag2005
one, I don't care about dx12 support as I don't game
two, I do care about VR as that is supported on windows 7 as that was developed before windows 10
three, this is an upgrade from a Sapphire RX570
four, I am future proofing to a degree as I am planning a build on threadripper in 18 months
five, those ray tracing cores make for a good computational matrix (PhD scientist here.

You claim to work in IT while also being a PHD scientist, yet you're running an old Z97 platform and an old operating system? Then you have to come here for help with drivers that isn't working with the old hardware and os. Um, okay. I can see why bcavnaugh decided to step away from this thread.

Look at the specifications I posted as OP in my first post.  Then look at how this scales.  This system still blows away most of the current 8th gen intel i3 and i5, and 2nd gen AMD r3 and r5 systems.  As such, the benchmark scores I see in passmark overall for my hardware is around 6400 overall.  The technical specs of this system is still good and my current peripherals are current tech.  Intel with the i7 4790K produced a processor that beat 5th and 6th gen and was not beat until the 7700K i7 and that is barely in the benchmarks for the processors.  Before criticizing, you need to RTFM the fine documentation.  Oh, RTFM = Read The Fine Manual.  The specifications for the z97 chipset is like the newer chipsets from Intel that uses ddr3 memory vs ddr4 memory.

And before bashing me further about upgrading my cpu/motherboard, I am waiting for 3rd gen threadripper on the 7nm process.  Good excuse for me to wait.  Also, I may in the interim chose to wait on upgrading to windows 10 by installing windows 8.1 to leverage current use of my Ceton InfiniTV TV tuner card.  The Ceton card is supported under Windows 8.1 but not under Windows 10.  Due to me being now disabled physically, I am not going to change tech because as currently configured the configuration works and accommodates my needs physically.  Yes I have the credit to buy what I want, I find however the absolute need is not there and I will not buy hardware unsupported for devices that I need and want.  Until you can come up with a fully functional for my needs new out of the box processor/motherboard/OS/peripheral device combination that works for me and my disabilities, please stop second guessing how the system is upgraded.  The fact is the nVidia driver install is broken and the work around most do not have the ability to implement.  The card does work well under 7 and I will in a while test under 8.1 to try to leverage my system for my needs for the next couple of years.  The threadripper build is a backup build at this point as I would have to try to find other different solutions.

HeavyHemi

stalag2005
And before bashing me further about upgrading my cpu/motherboard, I am waiting for 3rd gen threadripper on the 7nm process.  Good excuse for me to wait.  Also, I may in the interim chose to wait on upgrading to windows 10 by installing windows 8.1 to leverage current use of my Ceton InfiniTV TV tuner card.  The Ceton card is supported under Windows 8.1 but not under Windows 10.  Due to me being now disabled physically, I am not going to change tech because as currently configured the configuration works and accommodates my needs physically.  Yes I have the credit to buy what I want, I find however the absolute need is not there and I will not buy hardware unsupported for devices that I need and want.  Until you can come up with a fully functional for my needs new out of the box processor/motherboard/OS/peripheral device combination that works for me and my disabilities, please stop second guessing how the system is upgraded.  The fact is the nVidia driver install is broken and the work around most do not have the ability to implement.  The card does work well under 7 and I will in a while test under 8.1 to try to leverage my system for my needs for the next couple of years.  The threadripper build is a backup build at this point as I would have to try to find other different solutions.

"I will not buy hardware unsupported for devices that I need and want". You already did that.  Cool story bro  

So the Ceton TV card purchased in 2008 is unsupported?  Maybe in 10 but current hardware maybe, but it is relevant in my current configuration where my motherboard/processor/memory were purchased in 2015.  In 2018 I have no issues as the current system works quite well and will continue to work well.  Current hardware is also supported on any choice of OS I choose to go to except for the Ceton card of which Windows 8.1 is the only choice.  I am not about to go spend because I in your unstudied opinion  am not running the latest and greatest.  

bob16314
I would update to the latest mobo BIOS from Asus if needed.


Disable 'Fast Boot' in the BIOS Boot section..Some devices may not get recognized/initialized if Fast Boot is enabled.

Just skimming through all the posts here, I didn't see if you've tried those things or not.

Before installation, all the latest drivers for all the devices had the correct manufacturer specific drivers installed.  Before installation all firmware for all devices including motherboard were updated to the latest firmware if at all available.  There are no problems at all with any other device/driver/firmware in the system at all.  Further inspection of the .inf file though reveals that the inf file does not specify the correct hardware to install the drivers for the USB 3dvision hub/port built directly into the RTX 2080.  This is the fault solely of Nvidia as they control/produce/disseminate the drivers for their chipsets.  I have spoken/corresponded with both Nvidia and EVGA directly via phone/textchat about this.
 
Sajin in his post pointed to what the device hardware id's posted were.  Thank you Sajin.
and on Discord there were a couple of guys that helped with the extraction of the inf files from the nvidia monster .exe files, thanks to them for that help
 
bcavnaugh in his post gives the Nvidia standard script.  Sorry this does not work in this case because in the .inf file the problem exists with identification of hardware on the EVGA card itself.  For the same reason the drivers don't install if you manually attempt to update manually as both Cool GTX and bcavnaugh pointed out.   Before I even opened the ticket here, I had tried both of the above.  bcavnaugh does point out that Nvidia knows this is an issue as per their documentation that under Windows 7 that the USB port/hub assembly does not install properly and requires a virtual reality headset ir transmitter to be installed then a clean install.  I don't have the VR gear.
 
IN short, the OOBE was less than overwhelming due to the lack of proper support under windows 7 in the Nvidia supplied driver.  As all other components in my computer work properly, and with a z97 chipset is still modern enough to support NVMe devices, My computer as configured and posted in the opening post is still relevant today.  The fact I am NOT on windows 10 is due to my Ceton TV tuner card.  This card is from 2009, the board/memory/processor were purchased in 2015.  As configured today, my computer functionality is not supported on Windows 10.  Windows 10 is not a panacea.  Also, Windows 10 has distinct issues with stability that I cannot have as I work on my PC at home via a virtual machine while in the back ground the Ceton tuner card/Windows Media Center act as a DVR.  Windows 10 does NOT support this.  Also as configured due to current functionality of my computer system works for me.
 
Challenging me about "old hardware" is inconsistent with the benchmarking I have done on this PC.  I blow away 8th gen i3 and i5 processors currently as posted on passmark.  Unless one can under Windows 10 use a cable card enabled TV tuner your protestations to get me to upgrade to Windows 10 will fall on deaf ears.  I may choose to upgrade to Windows 8.1 as I have the Pro Pack key.  This should enable me to get support until 2023 for Windows Media Center/TV tuner support that I rely on while also supplying a VM as part of the deal.

joseph305
well, I was thinking about updating my win 7 64bit pc with a 
2080 card also.......
And, yes, I'm a pc gamer that still plays on good ol win 7 ......
will upgrade to win 10 when I get new pc in 6-8 months or so
 
So, I just want to get it clear, if you are running win 7 and have usb hub
drivers won't install correctly for it ?
but nvidia can and will fix this issue in future update ???
 
thanks in advance

We don't know, yet.  As I was pointing out, I can't even find another person using Win7 (because you know, it doesn't fully support the GPU and never will) or an older chipset.
Unless you have some compatibility issue,  I cannot see anyone making a good case for staying on Windows 7.

We need to get back on focus of the issue. This thread is starting to get a lot of arguments that won't fix anything but I do think people are trying to help which is really why we are here.

I use windows 7 and a rtx 2080 and had no issues with driver installation. But mine is a Nvidia brand Founders Edition.
 
I mention this because I think it might be another issue.

Windows 8.1 isnt as bad as 10 is, and you get some benefits with allowing new hardware and new features.
You can always turn off updates like in 7 still, or make it so only you can do updates, or update ONLY MS OS stuff.
And, with Classic Start Menu, you dont have to see the ugly side of the OS.
:)
I hope everything goes well for you with Win 8.1

Quick question stalag2005:
 
Q: Do you currently have Aero effects working?
If not, then a possible roadblock to the drivers installing correctly in W7 is your WDDM driver either not present or needing an update.
 
-> right click desktop -> Personalize -> (at the bottom) Troubleshoot problems with transparency and other Aero effects
-> Click Advanced -> uncheck “Apply repairs automatically”
-> Let the program detect problems
-> Hopefully it will detect that your VC doesn’t support Aero effects and that current driver isn’t compatible with the WDDM
-> Check Update the driver for your video card -> next
then it will hopefully update WDDM and then other detection will take place.
 
Good luck

True, but this is one of few windows 8.1 / turing search results, so things do need to be clear.

thats up to you.
 
i've already had to set someone straight over the PPC module, and how the nvvhci driver is not the usbc controller driver.

bcavnaugh
Maybe you should Click "Report Abuse" on my Posts and EVGA Forum Moderator can delete them.

Nah, you're good, bro..I seen a lot of your (and Squall-Leonhart's)helpful posts.
 
This is just a user-to-user forum, after all..Most members try to express informed and helpful input..Not a free-for-all 'cage match' like over at the GeForce Forums 

rooski18
This is not isolated to Windows 7 as I'm having the same issue on Windows 8.1.  When you direct the device manager to the NV3DVisionUSB.driver folder, it tells you there is no compatible driver.  When you try to manually install the driver, you get a message that it is not a compatible driver and bad things may occur if you install it.  Since my X299 gaming computer with an EVGA RTX 2080 on nVidia driver 416.81 is working well, I'll just wait for nVidia to fix this issue.  Maybe in a few driver revisions, they will give us a solution.
 
Thanks  to Stalag2005 for starting this thread.  It was most interesting and gave me good insight into this issue.

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There will be no fix coming for this.
 
The usb root and hub is not available on windows 7
The NVPCC driver is not available on 7 and 8.